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Teen girls shown in Twitter video putting helpless kitten in the microwave and turning it on

There are 95 comments on the Daily Mail story from Sep 11, 2013, titled Teen girls shown in Twitter video putting helpless kitten in the microwave and turning it on. In it, Daily Mail reports that:

Two teenage girls who uploaded a video of them giggling as they put a kitten in a microwave, which they then turned on, have landed themselves in trouble with the police.

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cheapo

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#63 Dec 16, 2013
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And I have nice and polite to you throughout and you attack me because you cannot comprehend this. there are not scientifically validated studies that show that animal abuse predicts/indicates future human abuse. That is not an opinion. It is a factual statement. Why does that fact upset you so much?
How are the retards doing?

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#64 Dec 16, 2013
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You would think that someone could be honest with themselves and say "wow, I have never taken a class on research, maybe I don't know what I am talking about" instead of arguing about something that they clearly are not educated about. I don't know the first thing about knitting a sweater and I certainly wouldn't act like I did someone was explaining how to knit a sweater.
Do you know how to care for a retard? Keep soap handy. They like to smear their own shit on the walls.

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#65 Dec 22, 2013
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The problem with you is that because you are an animal abuser you cannot bring yourself to admit the correlation and that the behavior is an indicator of deeper underlying behavioral problems. Psychologists, psychiatrists, criminologists, social workers, and law enforcement have recognized the connection and correlation which has been corroborated through several published research studies which I previously cited. The valid research is there, you just don't want to accept it.
There is a relationship that has been established between those who abuse humans and those who abuse animals. The relationship that has been established is that those who abuse humans also have a history of abusing animals. Research heavily supports that contention. What has not been established through the scientific process is that animal abuse predicts human abuse. your whole "lot's of people think this so it must be true" is not scientific nor is it compelling. I would also add that the fact that you are saying correlation and imply causation is also telling that you are ignorant regarding scientific matters. Even a perfect correlation is not cause and effect. Seriously, take a class or read a book on research methods and/or logic. I feel like I am trying to explain algebra to a 3 year old.

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#66 Dec 22, 2013
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How are the retards doing?
Why would you call special needs children "retards?" You really lack basic decency but I suppose most of the ARA movement shares this quality. I really wish you were a more kind and caring person.

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#67 Dec 22, 2013
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Do you know how to care for a retard? Keep soap handy. They like to smear their own shit on the walls.
Sometimes they do. So do infant children. Kids with special needs often act young for their age. Why do you get such pleasure over children suffering?
Virginia Vegetarian

Stafford, VA

#68 Dec 24, 2013
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There is a relationship that has been established between those who abuse humans and those who abuse animals. The relationship that has been established is that those who abuse humans also have a history of abusing animals. Research heavily supports that contention. What has not been established through the scientific process is that animal abuse predicts human abuse. your whole "lot's of people think this so it must be true" is not scientific nor is it compelling. I would also add that the fact that you are saying correlation and imply causation is also telling that you are ignorant regarding scientific matters. Even a perfect correlation is not cause and effect. Seriously, take a class or read a book on research methods and/or logic. I feel like I am trying to explain algebra to a 3 year old.
Again, and not surprisingly, you totally miss the point. I really wish you were as smart as you think you are. You cannot see the forest for the trees. Seems it is you who needs to take a class and/or read a book. And before you consider teaching algebra to a three year old, you better make sure you know it - not just think you know it.

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#69 Dec 24, 2013
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Again, and not surprisingly, you totally miss the point. I really wish you were as smart as you think you are. You cannot see the forest for the trees. Seems it is you who needs to take a class and/or read a book. And before you consider teaching algebra to a three year old, you better make sure you know it - not just think you know it.
Take a class on what? I understand the rules that govern science and generalization. I understand how to perform research. I understand how to interpret and apply research. I understand the rules that govern logic. Throughout this whole conversation, you are the one who is devoid of understanding. Ask yourself how many classes you have hand in advanced research methods. When you honestly answer that question, ask yourself how you could possibly have knowledge in this area without having taken a class or read a book on the subject matter. Understanding science and generalization is not innate. It is learned and you haven't been exposed to the information beyond our discussion here on this forum.

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#71 Dec 25, 2013
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Take a class on what? I understand the rules that govern science and generalization. I understand how to perform research. I understand how to interpret and apply research. I understand the rules that govern logic. Throughout this whole conversation, you are the one who is devoid of understanding. Ask yourself how many classes you have hand in advanced research methods. When you honestly answer that question, ask yourself how you could possibly have knowledge in this area without having taken a class or read a book on the subject matter. Understanding science and generalization is not innate. It is learned and you haven't been exposed to the information beyond our discussion here on this forum.
You don't even know the rules to "Go Fish". The only thing you have is an internet connection and a link to Wikipedia. Sad thing is, you don't know what it is you don't know. The only proof we have about what you do or do not understand, is from you, and we have already established that you lack credibility in this area as you will not provide your CV - and we all know why that is.

The only thing we know for certain about you is that you are an animal abuser and therefore sympathize and side with all the other animal abusers who belong incarcerated and separated from society as the societal scourges that you are.

And as the research has shown, chances are that you will commit acts of violence towards humans.

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#72 Dec 25, 2013
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Take a class on what? I understand the rules that govern science and generalization. I understand how to perform research. I understand how to interpret and apply research. I understand the rules that govern logic. Throughout this whole conversation, you are the one who is devoid of understanding. Ask yourself how many classes you have hand in advanced research methods. When you honestly answer that question, ask yourself how you could possibly have knowledge in this area without having taken a class or read a book on the subject matter. Understanding science and generalization is not innate. It is learned and you haven't been exposed to the information beyond our discussion here on this forum.
Nobody cares about your opinion dumb [email protected] Go clean the shYt off your walls daycare worker!

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#73 Dec 26, 2013
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You don't even know the rules to "Go Fish". The only thing you have is an internet connection and a link to Wikipedia. Sad thing is, you don't know what it is you don't know. The only proof we have about what you do or do not understand, is from you, and we have already established that you lack credibility in this area as you will not provide your CV - and we all know why that is.
The only thing we know for certain about you is that you are an animal abuser and therefore sympathize and side with all the other animal abusers who belong incarcerated and separated from society as the societal scourges that you are.
And as the research has shown, chances are that you will commit acts of violence towards humans.
How many advanced research classes have you taken? I know the answer is zero because you cannot differentiate someone citing a research article from an actual research article. If you had a basic knowledge of research methods, the things I am saying would make sense to you.

I am also not making an argument from authority. I am providing factual information. If you don't like my links, look it up for yourself. Trying googling sampling and generalization. In fact, I will do it for you.
http://lmgtfy.com/...
Maybe trying studying "affirming the consequent."
http://lmgtfy.com/...

You can sit there and hide behind your anti-intellectual approach to interpreting the world but perhaps you would reach more valid results if you learned the basics of things you do not understand. I really wish you were more educated about science and research and I am sincerely attempting to educate you. Why aren't you more receptive to learning the processes involved that we use to objectively obtain knowledge?

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#74 Dec 26, 2013
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Nobody cares about your opinion dumb [email protected] Go clean the shYt off your walls daycare worker!
Why do you get pleasure from making fun of special needs children? Smearing feces is one of the behaviors that I need to address but it isn't a laughing matter...especially for the children and their parents. If you are a false flag for the ARA movement and are attempting to make them appear like heartless fools, you are doing a good job. If this is who you really are, I sincerely wish you were a more caring and compassionate person.

cheapo

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#75 Dec 26, 2013
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Why do you get pleasure from making fun of special needs children? Smearing feces is one of the behaviors that I need to address but it isn't a laughing matter...especially for the children and their parents. If you are a false flag for the ARA movement and are attempting to make them appear like heartless fools, you are doing a good job. If this is who you really are, I sincerely wish you were a more caring and compassionate person.
Shove it up your daycare azz. Animal hater. Go post on the retard forum.

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#76 Dec 26, 2013
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Shove it up your daycare azz. Animal hater. Go post on the retard forum.
I will post where I please. If you hate kids with autism, that is your problem. I wish you were a more compassionate person. If I were religious, I would pray for you.
Virginia Vegetarian

Stafford, VA

#77 Dec 26, 2013
USA R0CKS wrote:
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How many advanced research classes have you taken? I know the answer is zero because you cannot differentiate someone citing a research article from an actual research article. If you had a basic knowledge of research methods, the things I am saying would make sense to you.
I am also not making an argument from authority. I am providing factual information. If you don't like my links, look it up for yourself. Trying googling sampling and generalization. In fact, I will do it for you.
http://lmgtfy.com/...
Maybe trying studying "affirming the consequent."
http://lmgtfy.com/...
You can sit there and hide behind your anti-intellectual approach to interpreting the world but perhaps you would reach more valid results if you learned the basics of things you do not understand. I really wish you were more educated about science and research and I am sincerely attempting to educate you. Why aren't you more receptive to learning the processes involved that we use to objectively obtain knowledge?
How many advanced research classes have you taken? I'll bet the answer is zero. There is a big difference between thinking you know something and actually knowing something. As soon as you figure that out, you will realize just how full of it you really are. No one (except yourself) is impressed with your self importance. You are not providing factual information because you do not know what a scientific fact is. Psychology is not a science, and psychologists are not scientists. You have ten psychologists observe someone's behavior, and you will get ten different opinions as to why the person did what they did.

The research and studies did not make absolutes. They made statistical probabilities based on certain criteria. The research never said, nor did I, that animal abusers always end up abusing humans, but the underlying behavior that leads one to abuse animals is also one that leads them to abuse humans. The race is not always to the swift, nor the fight to the strong, but that's the way to bet.

The whole point is that as egregious a crime as animal abuse is by itself, it is also a manifestation of an underlying disturbing behavioral problem exhibited by the perpetrator that cannot (for the good of society) be ignored. That is why states and localities are pushing for stiffer penalties to include behavioral analysis of the offenders. Contact the folks at BAU if you don't believe me.

BTW, your an Aspie, aren't you.

cheapo

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#78 Dec 26, 2013
Virginia Vegetarian wrote:
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How many advanced research classes have you taken? I'll bet the answer is zero. There is a big difference between thinking you know something and actually knowing something. As soon as you figure that out, you will realize just how full of it you really are. No one (except yourself) is impressed with your self importance. You are not providing factual information because you do not know what a scientific fact is. Psychology is not a science, and psychologists are not scientists. You have ten psychologists observe someone's behavior, and you will get ten different opinions as to why the person did what they did.
The research and studies did not make absolutes. They made statistical probabilities based on certain criteria. The research never said, nor did I, that animal abusers always end up abusing humans, but the underlying behavior that leads one to abuse animals is also one that leads them to abuse humans. The race is not always to the swift, nor the fight to the strong, but that's the way to bet.
The whole point is that as egregious a crime as animal abuse is by itself, it is also a manifestation of an underlying disturbing behavioral problem exhibited by the perpetrator that cannot (for the good of society) be ignored. That is why states and localities are pushing for stiffer penalties to include behavioral analysis of the offenders. Contact the folks at BAU if you don't believe me.
BTW, your an Aspie, aren't you.
What is an Aspie?

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#79 Dec 27, 2013
Virginia Vegetarian wrote:
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How many advanced research classes have you taken? I'll bet the answer is zero. There is a big difference between thinking you know something and actually knowing something. As soon as you figure that out, you will realize just how full of it you really are. No one (except yourself) is impressed with your self importance. You are not providing factual information because you do not know what a scientific fact is. Psychology is not a science, and psychologists are not scientists. You have ten psychologists observe someone's behavior, and you will get ten different opinions as to why the person did what they did.
The research and studies did not make absolutes. They made statistical probabilities based on certain criteria. The research never said, nor did I, that animal abusers always end up abusing humans, but the underlying behavior that leads one to abuse animals is also one that leads them to abuse humans. The race is not always to the swift, nor the fight to the strong, but that's the way to bet.
The whole point is that as egregious a crime as animal abuse is by itself, it is also a manifestation of an underlying disturbing behavioral problem exhibited by the perpetrator that cannot (for the good of society) be ignored. That is why states and localities are pushing for stiffer penalties to include behavioral analysis of the offenders. Contact the folks at BAU if you don't believe me.
BTW, your an Aspie, aren't you.
Thank you for finally acknowledging that there is not scientifically validated research that suggests that animal abuse is a predictor/indicator of future human abuse. Was that so hard?

As for how many advanced research classes I have taken, I have taken a total of 6. I also am a guest speaker on a regular basis at a university for undergraduate students regarding research methods.

I would also add that there are different kinds of psychologists. Some psychologists focus solely on research while others are clinicians. Psychologists who focus on research are very scientific and they do understand the limitations of their research (they don't make the same errors that you do). Clinicians on the other hand are lousy researchers and often lack basic skills in reading and interpreting research. I would also add that behaviors can be tested and analyzed through the scientific method to determine the reasons for behavior. When that happens, it is no longer opinion but something that has been substantiated through the scientific method.

I would also add that there is not evidence that people who "abuse" animals have deep underlying behavioral disturbance. It simply isn't supported by anything objective. In fact, everybody "abuses" animals. It is a very normal human process. in fact, it is normal for virtually all species on the planet.

As for the statistical analysis and not making absolutes, everybody knows that. Point is that there isn't even scientifically validated statistic evidence that even SUGGESTS that animal abuse leads to human abuse. The scientifically validated statistical evidence suggests that those who abuse humans also have a history of abusing animals. There isn't any evidence that the reverse is at all true.

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#80 Dec 27, 2013
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BTW, your an Aspie, aren't you.
Why would you think that. Because I have patiently attempted to explain something to you that you lack even a basic understanding of? I am not an adult with Asperger Syndrome. I am a clinical supervisor for children with Autism, Asperger Syndrome and other developmental delays. It isn't relevant for this discussion because I am not making an argument from authority but I utilize single subject research designs on a daily basis in an applied setting (not a research setting). Just look up the things I have asserted about the scientific method. You will find that I have been 100% accurate. When you realize that, you will also realize that there isn't scientifically validated research that supports the contention that abusing animals is a predictor/indicator of future human abuse.
Virginia Vegetarian

Stafford, VA

#81 Dec 27, 2013
USA R0CKS wrote:
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Thank you for finally acknowledging that there is not scientifically validated research that suggests that animal abuse is a predictor/indicator of future human abuse. Was that so hard?
As for how many advanced research classes I have taken, I have taken a total of 6. I also am a guest speaker on a regular basis at a university for undergraduate students regarding research methods.
I would also add that there are different kinds of psychologists. Some psychologists focus solely on research while others are clinicians. Psychologists who focus on research are very scientific and they do understand the limitations of their research (they don't make the same errors that you do). Clinicians on the other hand are lousy researchers and often lack basic skills in reading and interpreting research. I would also add that behaviors can be tested and analyzed through the scientific method to determine the reasons for behavior. When that happens, it is no longer opinion but something that has been substantiated through the scientific method.
I would also add that there is evidence that people who "abuse" animals have deep underlying behavioral disturbance. It is supported. In fact, everybody "abuses" animals. It is a very normal human process. in fact, it is normal for virtually all species on the planet.
As for the statistical analysis and not making absolutes, everybody knows that.
Does this university have a name, or is it as fictional as your classes in research methods? Until you can prove it, it is like most of your postings - baseless opinion. So name this institution of higher learning so your claims can be verified, or quit this line of drivel. In other words, "Put up, or Shut up".

Your lack of emotion and empathy is quite telling. I bet you avoid eye contact, social situations, and have no friends. You must spend countless hours on anonymous internet forums to avoid any human interaction. You laugh at inappropriate times, and make awkward comments in the few social situations you find yourself in. As a child, you were labeled as 'odd', but nobody knew quite what to do about it, hoping you would 'grow out of it'. It wasn't until later in life that you were finally diagnosed. You are an Aspie.

Have you contacted BAU yet to let them know they are way off base?

Dr. Randall Lockwood, a psychologist who has written extensively on the link between animal abuse and human violence, wrote "Those who abuse animals for no obvious reason are budding psychopaths. They have no empathy and only see the world as what it's going to do for them."

It only has been in the last twenty years that social scientists and law enforcement have recognized the significance of animal cruelty to other crimes. In 1987, the DSM-III-R added animal cruelty as an indicator of conduct disorder and in 1990 only seven states had felony-level provisions in their animal cruelty statutes, compared to the 41 who do so today.

In 1987, the Diagnostic and Statistical Style Manual added animal cruelty as an indicator of the presence of conduct disorder in children. The diagnostic criteria for conduct disorder are clustered into four groups. The first symptom cluster is “aggression to people and animals,” distinguishing these actions from destruction of property, deceitfulness or theft, and serious violations of rules (American Psychiatric Association, 1994).
Ascione (2001) notes,“Cruelty to animals may be one of the first CD symptoms to appear in young children”(p. 5). Additionally, a recent study (Verlinden, 2000) found that five of the 11 perpetrators of school shootings between 1996 and 1999 had histories of animal abuse. In recognition of this link, the American Psychological Association, the National Crime Prevention Council, and the National School Safety Council cite animal cruelty as one of the warning signs for identifying at-risk youth.
Virginia Vegetarian

Stafford, VA

#82 Dec 27, 2013
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In fact, everybody "abuses" animals. It is a very normal human process. in fact, it is normal for virtually all species on the planet.
This is a very telling statement on your part and goes to the core of your problem. You have rationalized your abuse of animals by convincing yourself that it is universally done and is 'a very normal human process'. The only people who share this belief are other animal abusers and sociopaths. You need serious help. Please get some.

cheapo

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#83 Dec 28, 2013
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I will post where I please. If you hate kids with autism, that is your problem. I wish you were a more compassionate person. If I were religious, I would pray for you.
I do not hate children with autism. I have them in my family . We treat them with love and respect which is part of treating all God's creatures. You on the other hand are a very sick individual and I fear you are abusing these children. I hope someone has the courage to out you skank.

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