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Teen girls shown in Twitter video putting helpless kitten in the microwave and turning it on

There are 95 comments on the Daily Mail story from Sep 11, 2013, titled Teen girls shown in Twitter video putting helpless kitten in the microwave and turning it on. In it, Daily Mail reports that:

Two teenage girls who uploaded a video of them giggling as they put a kitten in a microwave, which they then turned on, have landed themselves in trouble with the police.

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Virginia Vegetarian

Stafford, VA

#42 Dec 13, 2013
USA R0CKS wrote:
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Animal cruelty is not an indicator of a behavior disorder. It is a symptom for 1 specific disorder. It appears you do not understand diagnostic manuals. Lying is a symptom of anti-social personality disorder and yet, it is not an indicator of anti-social personality disorder. Lack of planning/impulsivity is also an symptom of anti-social personality disorder but not an indicator. Anxiety is a symptom of all anxiety disorder but everybody experiences anxiety. Similarly, animal abuse is a symptom of conduct disorder and yet is not an indicator of conduct disorder. Everything that I have mentioned in this paragraph is something that every single person that is walking on the face of the earth has either willingly performed or experienced. You don't know what you are talking about when it comes to diagnostic manuals and until you do, you would do a service to society if you would stop talking about it.
Your red herrings are comical, but sad. It appears you are grasping at straws to try and prove your point.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks." It seems you are trying hard to disprove a proven correlation because acknowledging it would be counterproductive to you because you are an animal abuser. No, again I'm not talking about stepping on ants (unless you go out of your way to do it and receive gratification). The same for rodents, and snakes. How many bunnies, kittens, and puppies have you tortured in your life for no other reason than you wanted to? This is why you don't see animal abuse or cruelty as having implications on society, or as an indicator that the person is 'mentally messed up'. And it is also why you don't believe animal cruelty or abuse deserves jail time, because you don't want to go to jail.

I really wish you were as smart as you think you are. Hopefully you are not employed in a position where you have influence and control over human or non-human animals, for if you are, that state has serious issues with its screening policies and procedures.
Virgil Strarkwell

Midland, TX

#43 Dec 13, 2013
Virginia Vegetarian wrote:
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It seems you are trying hard to disprove a proven correlation because acknowledging it would be counterproductive to you because you are an animal abuser.
That's quite a stretch, Gertrude. Kind of like saying YOU have sex with animals because you love them so much.
Virginia Vegetarian wrote:
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I really wish you were as smart as you think you are.
Someone has to fill the void here and it certainly isn't you.
Virginia Vegetarian wrote:
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Hopefully you are not employed in a position where you have influence and control over human or non-human animals, for if you are, that state has serious issues with its screening policies and procedures.
Sounds like you may have personal experience with this type of rejection.

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Since: Apr 11

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#44 Dec 13, 2013
Virginia Vegetarian wrote:
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Your red herrings are comical, but sad. It appears you are grasping at straws to try and prove your point.
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks." It seems you are trying hard to disprove a proven correlation because acknowledging it would be counterproductive to you because you are an animal abuser. No, again I'm not talking about stepping on ants (unless you go out of your way to do it and receive gratification). The same for rodents, and snakes. How many bunnies, kittens, and puppies have you tortured in your life for no other reason than you wanted to? This is why you don't see animal abuse or cruelty as having implications on society, or as an indicator that the person is 'mentally messed up'. And it is also why you don't believe animal cruelty or abuse deserves jail time, because you don't want to go to jail.
I really wish you were as smart as you think you are. Hopefully you are not employed in a position where you have influence and control over human or non-human animals, for if you are, that state has serious issues with its screening policies and procedures.
the issue is that you reach a conclusion and then attempt to find evidence that supports it and ignore evidence that refutes it. I looked solely at the evidence and allow the evidence to lead to a conclusion. This isn't my opinion. It is fact that there is not scientifically validated research that shows that animal abuse is a predictor/indicator of future human abuse. I have requested that you provide a link and thus far, you have been unable to do so. You have provided opinions of people but that is not scientifically validated research. Unfortunately, you don't know the difference between opinion and science. This is the crux of the problem here.
Virginia Vegetarian

Stafford, VA

#45 Dec 13, 2013
Virgil Strarkwell wrote:
<quoted text>That's quite a stretch, Gertrude. Kind of like saying YOU have sex with animals because you love them so much.<quoted text>Someone has to fill the void here and it certainly isn't you. <quoted text>Sounds like you may have personal experience with this type of rejection.
Again with the childish and immature nonsense. Surely there must be some shiny tinsel nearby that can keep you occupied until New Years.

Do you have any salient thoughts on the topic at hand, or are you going to remain an annoying twit?
Virginia Vegetarian

Stafford, VA

#46 Dec 13, 2013
USA R0CKS wrote:
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the issue is that you reach a conclusion and then attempt to find evidence that supports it and ignore evidence that refutes it. I looked solely at the evidence and allow the evidence to lead to a conclusion. This isn't my opinion. It is fact that there is not scientifically validated research that shows that animal abuse is a predictor/indicator of future human abuse. I have requested that you provide a link and thus far, you have been unable to do so. You have provided opinions of people but that is not scientifically validated research. Unfortunately, you don't know the difference between opinion and science. This is the crux of the problem here.
The researchers (several independent) started with a premise or hypothesis then tested that using generally accepted research methodologies (which are enumerated in the many links and studies I have referenced), then reached conclusions based on the data collected. The conclusions reached were not mine, but those of the researchers based on the evidence gathered from their various studies. Since you see animal abuse and cruelty as 'trivial and no big deal', it is easy to understand your obstinance.

You are welcome to join us in the 21st century.
Virgil Strarkwell

Midland, TX

#47 Dec 13, 2013
Virginia Vegetarian wrote:
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Again with the childish and immature nonsense. Surely there must be some shiny tinsel nearby that can keep you occupied until New Years.
Do you have any salient thoughts on the topic at hand, or are you going to remain an annoying twit?
Actually, you and I both know that your problems run far deeper than your inability to differentiate between science and opinion... don't we.
Virginia Vegetarian

Stafford, VA

#48 Dec 13, 2013
Virgil Strarkwell wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, you and I both know that your problems run far deeper than your inability to differentiate between science and opinion... don't we.
Actually, it is not that difficult. Anything coming from you is uninformed and ignorant opinion. Science is something you know nothing about.
Virgil Strarkwell

Midland, TX

#49 Dec 13, 2013
Virginia Vegetarian wrote:
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Actually, it is not that difficult. Anything coming from you is uninformed and ignorant opinion. Science is something you know nothing about.
What up Gertrude... did I ruffle your delusions of grandeur?
Virginia Vegetarian

Stafford, VA

#50 Dec 13, 2013
Virgil Strarkwell wrote:
<quoted text>What up Gertrude... did I ruffle your delusions of grandeur?
No delusions here Nancy, just facts and science based opinions. Which is more than one can say about your juvenile drivel.

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Since: Apr 11

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#51 Dec 13, 2013
Virginia Vegetarian wrote:
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The researchers (several independent) started with a premise or hypothesis then tested that using generally accepted research methodologies (which are enumerated in the many links and studies I have referenced), then reached conclusions based on the data collected. The conclusions reached were not mine, but those of the researchers based on the evidence gathered from their various studies. Since you see animal abuse and cruelty as 'trivial and no big deal', it is easy to understand your obstinance.
You are welcome to join us in the 21st century.
But none of the researchers concluded that animal abuse leads to human abuse. That is something YOU created. From a factual perspective, you are wrong on every front. Please provide 1 scientifically validated research article that shows that animal abuse leads to human abuse. So far, you have not done that. Not even close. In fact, you haven't even cited a research article. You have cited people summarizing someone else's research. Sadly, I don't even think you realized that. You are way behind. Read a book on research and/or logic.

“Use renewable resources”

Since: Apr 11

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#52 Dec 13, 2013
Virginia Vegetarian wrote:
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Actually, it is not that difficult. Anything coming from you is uninformed and ignorant opinion. Science is something you know nothing about.
Says the guy who thinks that an authored article is research.

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Since: Apr 11

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#53 Dec 13, 2013
Virginia Vegetarian wrote:
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No delusions here Nancy, just facts and science based opinions. Which is more than one can say about your juvenile drivel.
Where is the science and fact based opinion? You haven't cited anything scientific or factual. You have cited your perception. You utilize introception and think it is generalizable to the entire world. You are the antithesis of science and fact...and you don't even know it. This is my area an you think that you doing whatever thing you do (which isn't related to science) makes you an expert in scientific fields. You are so far behind that you don't know what you could be missing. Read a book or something. Your "analysis" is full of confounds and you are so ignorant in these matters that you cannot see it.

“Use renewable resources”

Since: Apr 11

Wear fur and save the earth

#54 Dec 13, 2013
And I have nice and polite to you throughout and you attack me because you cannot comprehend this. there are not scientifically validated studies that show that animal abuse predicts/indicates future human abuse. That is not an opinion. It is a factual statement. Why does that fact upset you so much?
Virgil Strarkwell

Midland, TX

#55 Dec 13, 2013
USA R0CKS wrote:
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But none of the researchers concluded that animal abuse leads to human abuse. That is something YOU created. From a factual perspective, you are wrong on every front. Please provide 1 scientifically validated research article that shows that animal abuse leads to human abuse. So far, you have not done that. Not even close. In fact, you haven't even cited a research article. You have cited people summarizing someone else's research. Sadly, I don't even think you realized that. You are way behind. Read a book on research and/or logic.
No need for Gertrude to read a book when the other six year olds at her tea party believe her.
Anonymous

Sharon Springs, NY

#56 Dec 13, 2013
That is so messed up what is wrong with those chicks? Like WTF!
Virginia Vegetarian

Stafford, VA

#57 Dec 13, 2013
USA R0CKS wrote:
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But none of the researchers concluded that animal abuse leads to human abuse. That is something YOU created. From a factual perspective, you are wrong on every front. Please provide 1 scientifically validated research article that shows that animal abuse leads to human abuse. So far, you have not done that. Not even close. In fact, you haven't even cited a research article. You have cited people summarizing someone else's research. Sadly, I don't even think you realized that. You are way behind. Read a book on research and/or logic.
,

The problem with you is that because you are an animal abuser you cannot bring yourself to admit the correlation and that the behavior is an indicator of deeper underlying behavioral problems. Psychologists, psychiatrists, criminologists, social workers, and law enforcement have recognized the connection and correlation which has been corroborated through several published research studies which I previously cited. The valid research is there, you just don't want to accept it.

“Use renewable resources”

Since: Apr 11

Wear fur and save the earth

#58 Dec 13, 2013
Virgil Strarkwell wrote:
<quoted text>No need for Gertrude to read a book when the other six year olds at her tea party believe her.
You would think that someone could be honest with themselves and say "wow, I have never taken a class on research, maybe I don't know what I am talking about" instead of arguing about something that they clearly are not educated about. I don't know the first thing about knitting a sweater and I certainly wouldn't act like I did someone was explaining how to knit a sweater.
Virginia Vegetarian

Stafford, VA

#59 Dec 13, 2013
Virgil Strarkwell wrote:
<quoted text>No need for Gertrude to read a book when the other six year olds at her tea party believe her.
Still waiting for a salient point. Have a better chance of Santa Claus coming down the chimney than seeing anything remotely resembling an intelligent thought from you.
Virgil Strarkwell

Midland, TX

#60 Dec 13, 2013
Virginia Vegetarian wrote:
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Still waiting for a salient point. Have a better chance of Santa Claus coming down the chimney than seeing anything remotely resembling an intelligent thought from you.
You're a mark, Gertrude... mark of the douche that is. Messing with a pontificating gasbag like you is just entertainment.
Virginia Vegetarian

Stafford, VA

#61 Dec 13, 2013
Virgil Strarkwell wrote:
<quoted text>You're a mark, Gertrude... mark of the douche that is. Messing with a pontificating gasbag like you is just entertainment.
There seems to be no sign of intelligence in Midland, TX.

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