middle school principal
hells bells

Fredericktown, MO

#24 Mar 16, 2008
portageville wrote:
<quoted text>A lot of people care about Ms Judy, she is a great person and I wonder who will be able to fill her shoes.
a man with alot of backbone. someone who will stand up to those mean punks who think they run the place!they all laugh at her and say oh i dont care if i get a paddle by miss judy , cause she can't paddle hard so i'll just go and do what i did again.
Guest

Dexter, MO

#25 Mar 16, 2008
hells bells wrote:
<quoted text>a man with alot of backbone. someone who will stand up to those mean punks who think they run the place!they all laugh at her and say oh i dont care if i get a paddle by miss judy , cause she can't paddle hard so i'll just go and do what i did again.
Having a man as principal doesn't mean a thing. Lots of male principals do not paddle either- reprimands, ISS,and OSS seem to be the going methods of punishment. People do not take into consideration that Mrs. Judy has had surgery on her arm that hinders her from paddling! Again, I say it all begins in the home as to the attitude and upbringing some of these children have- do the parents support the principal in her decisions to administer paddlings OR do they say things like, "No body better whip my child or they'll have me to deal with." Or perhaps, "If they paddle my child, I'll sue them; nobody paddles my child but me." There are those with this type mentality. So as we see from that, the child knows the stance his parents take and they use that against the school- the child rules, not the parent or the school. And when when the child gets out of hand at home, too big to control, and they start the same rhetoric on the parent THEN it is all of a sudden the school's fault. IF parents disciplined in the home, backed the school on the handbook rules, then I think alot of this junk would be diminished. Perhaps it needs to go back to the individual teacher having paddling rights and let the child be paddled in the halls. That was the way it was when I was in school- it was humiliating to say the least, BUT we didn't have the discipline problems as we do now either. All in all, no man knows what they'd do unless they walk a mile in the other's shoes!
be nice

Saint Louis, MO

#26 Mar 16, 2008
Guest wrote:
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Having a man as principal doesn't mean a thing. Lots of male principals do not paddle either- reprimands, ISS,and OSS seem to be the going methods of punishment. People do not take into consideration that Mrs. Judy has had surgery on her arm that hinders her from paddling! Again, I say it all begins in the home as to the attitude and upbringing some of these children have- do the parents support the principal in her decisions to administer paddlings OR do they say things like, "No body better whip my child or they'll have me to deal with." Or perhaps, "If they paddle my child, I'll sue them; nobody paddles my child but me." There are those with this type mentality. So as we see from that, the child knows the stance his parents take and they use that against the school- the child rules, not the parent or the school. And when when the child gets out of hand at home, too big to control, and they start the same rhetoric on the parent THEN it is all of a sudden the school's fault. IF parents disciplined in the home, backed the school on the handbook rules, then I think alot of this junk would be diminished. Perhaps it needs to go back to the individual teacher having paddling rights and let the child be paddled in the halls. That was the way it was when I was in school- it was humiliating to say the least, BUT we didn't have the discipline problems as we do now either. All in all, no man knows what they'd do unless they walk a mile in the other's shoes!
HHHMMM-I'm one of those parents who has told the school that they are not to paddle my children w/o me present. I got paddlings in school-for tardies-and got smacked on the lower back and whelps left on me-it's not happening to my kids. My kids are taught respect at home and from what I've heard very respectful at school-even though the know that they can't be paddled w/o me being notified first.Just b/c someone doesn't spank their kids or allow the schools too does not mean they will be bad kids. I've seen kids who are spanked alot and they are a lot worse (and some of the bigger troublemakers) than mine who VERY RARELY get a spanking. If parents would teach responsibility and maybe show some attention to them we wouldn't have all these "punk kids" running around
Guest

Dexter, MO

#27 Mar 16, 2008
be nice wrote:
<quoted text> HHHMMM-I'm one of those parents who has told the school that they are not to paddle my children w/o me present. I got paddlings in school-for tardies-and got smacked on the lower back and whelps left on me-it's not happening to my kids. My kids are taught respect at home and from what I've heard very respectful at school-even though the know that they can't be paddled w/o me being notified first.Just b/c someone doesn't spank their kids or allow the schools too does not mean they will be bad kids. I've seen kids who are spanked alot and they are a lot worse (and some of the bigger troublemakers) than mine who VERY RARELY get a spanking. If parents would teach responsibility and maybe show some attention to them we wouldn't have all these "punk kids" running around
Letters used to be sent home when corporal pinishment was used- I don't know if that is still a rule or not. In my post, I am referring to those who 'rule' in every atmosphere they are in -home, the public, and school. You are right, often neglect to show a child attention will only get negative attention from that child some place else. Positive attention, respect for elders, responsibility for one's own actions,- it all goes hand-in-hand. I also wanted to be notified when my child was spanked- I do not condone beating any child but given the day we live in now, it takes more than admonishment. IF my child did something that fell within corporal punishment rules then he deserved to be spanked. Too many kids know that their parents are afraid of them and the laws passsed are not in favor of the parent IMO. We do have a hard task I am afraid given all that. I don't know the solution in all honesty but I do know to place blame where blame isn't due is not right either. Many of these children or young adults were this way from elementary age. I still say, it begins in the home!
be nice

Saint Louis, MO

#28 Mar 16, 2008
Guest wrote:
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Letters used to be sent home when corporal pinishment was used- I don't know if that is still a rule or not. In my post, I am referring to those who 'rule' in every atmosphere they are in -home, the public, and school. You are right, often neglect to show a child attention will only get negative attention from that child some place else. Positive attention, respect for elders, responsibility for one's own actions,- it all goes hand-in-hand. I also wanted to be notified when my child was spanked- I do not condone beating any child but given the day we live in now, it takes more than admonishment. IF my child did something that fell within corporal punishment rules then he deserved to be spanked. Too many kids know that their parents are afraid of them and the laws passsed are not in favor of the parent IMO. We do have a hard task I am afraid given all that. I don't know the solution in all honesty but I do know to place blame where blame isn't due is not right either. Many of these children or young adults were this way from elementary age. I still say, it begins in the home!
It does begin at home-unfortunatly many don't do it. My parents were never notified the couple of times I got paddled (which is why I chose paddling instead of detention-they would have found out if I got that then I'd have been in trouble at home too! LOL-I have the same rule in my house now
Guest

Saint Louis, MO

#29 Mar 18, 2008
Suburb citizen wrote:
I'm still wondering where she's going?
She is going to the PAC room and also be a part-time At-Risk counselor.
Suburb citizen

Kennett, MO

#30 Mar 18, 2008
Guest wrote:
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She is going to the PAC room and also be a part-time At-Risk counselor.
THANK YOU! Finally, an answer!
Guest

Saint Louis, MO

#31 Mar 18, 2008
Suburb citizen wrote:
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THANK YOU! Finally, an answer!
You are certainly welcome! And I didn't even make that answer up - it happens to be a fact!
Suburb citizen

Kennett, MO

#32 Mar 18, 2008
Fact. That's the only kind of answers I want! I'm glad to see she's staying here, great lady.
Guest

Lake Saint Louis, MO

#33 Mar 22, 2008
The middle school has a new principal. The super hired him Thurs night at the board meeting. She supposedly called three men to interview in front of the board and two didn't show because of the salary. The new principal is from around the Oran area which is where the last super was from. When it comes down to it, that's probably some of the reason the person got the job. It's amazing how much influence the last super still has on the school.
hmmmm

United States

#34 Mar 22, 2008
cool it's a man. hope he can sit on the big dog porch:)
Guest

Barnhart, MO

#35 Mar 22, 2008
Guest wrote:
The middle school has a new principal. The super hired him Thurs night at the board meeting. She supposedly called three men to interview in front of the board and two didn't show because of the salary. The new principal is from around the Oran area which is where the last super was from. When it comes down to it, that's probably some of the reason the person got the job. It's amazing how much influence the last super still has on the school.
The superintendent CANNOT hire, fire, or suspend anyone. She can make a recommendation but does not have final decision; the school board members have that power. It is unfortunate we have to hire people from out of town who are not familiar with the traditions of OUR district. Hopefully this gentlemen will be an asset to the school and work together with each building to make it a better district. Goodness knows there are issues that need addressed.
Filling gaps

Columbia, MO

#36 Mar 24, 2008
Guest wrote:
The middle school has a new principal. The super hired him Thurs night at the board meeting. She supposedly called three men to interview in front of the board and two didn't show because of the salary. The new principal is from around the Oran area which is where the last super was from. When it comes down to it, that's probably some of the reason the person got the job. It's amazing how much influence the last super still has on the school.
Do you believe the last super really had something to do with influencing this personally, or do you mean this person applied because they were from the same place?
please

Blue Springs, MO

#37 Mar 24, 2008
tell me it isnt paul lynch
Guest

Saint Louis, MO

#38 Mar 25, 2008
Filling gaps wrote:
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Do you believe the last super really had something to do with influencing this personally, or do you mean this person applied because they were from the same place?
If you only knew!!!!! The new super and the old super are tight! And don't let anyone tell you a super CAN'T hire, fire, or whatever - because most boards take the recommendation of the super - no matter who or what it is.
Opinion Only

Fenton, MO

#39 Mar 25, 2008
Guest wrote:
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If you only knew!!!!! The new super and the old super are tight! And don't let anyone tell you a super CAN'T hire, fire, or whatever - because most boards take the recommendation of the super - no matter who or what it is.
Sure the superintendent can recommend and the board can approve but in the minutes of the meeting it will state, "Board hired _________ for __________ position." You will never see the word "Superintendent" in replace of "Board" on the official minutes. If the super does hire an employee without approval of the board it is a violation of the district's policies and procedures.
Guest

Saint Louis, MO

#40 Mar 26, 2008
Opinion Only wrote:
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Sure the superintendent can recommend and the board can approve but in the minutes of the meeting it will state, "Board hired _________ for __________ position." You will never see the word "Superintendent" in replace of "Board" on the official minutes. If the super does hire an employee without approval of the board it is a violation of the district's policies and procedures.
I didn't say you would see the super's name on the board minutes. But do you deny that the board hires upon the super's recommendations?
I spoke with one board member earlier this week and asked who te new middle school principal was that they hired last Thursday night. He politely told me that he couldn't tell me because the super didn't want the board members to put out that kind of information (said a prior experience resulted in hand-smacking at a board meeting). His word against the super's - I still got no answer. So hardheaded that I am, I asked yet another board member, and he said he couldn't remember who they hired for that job or several of the other openings in the district. Talk about speechless, I was.
hmmmmm

San Antonio, TX

#41 Mar 26, 2008
makes u wonder what is going on... board members are HER boss. I think her 'telling' the members to not talk about things ticked some off. Her days are numbered...
Fillling Gaps

Cape Girardeau, MO

#42 Mar 26, 2008
Many administrators recommend their replacements, and it has been done a few times in the last few years. Some people realized a little too late that the people they recommended would go on to stab them in the back or run their reputation down. Talk about one hand washing the other.
As for the current super and the old super being friends, yes, I know about their relationship, both professionally and otherwise, to some extent.
I was just asking if someone knew for sure if the former super had stepped in on this one? I ask only because of the way the person worded their complaint. Maybe I read too much into it. I just don't want to think that someone so far removed from our current system would have any input in it now.
Guest

Saint Louis, MO

#43 Mar 26, 2008
Fillling Gaps wrote:
Many administrators recommend their replacements, and it has been done a few times in the last few years. Some people realized a little too late that the people they recommended would go on to stab them in the back or run their reputation down. Talk about one hand washing the other.
As for the current super and the old super being friends, yes, I know about their relationship, both professionally and otherwise, to some extent.
I was just asking if someone knew for sure if the former super had stepped in on this one? I ask only because of the way the person worded their complaint. Maybe I read too much into it. I just don't want to think that someone so far removed from our current system would have any input in it now.
You know that saying, "Who you gonna call - ghost busters?" Well, it isn't ghostbusters anymore, it's Bloomfield? And I'm not saying another word on this matter!

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