Teen charged in teen's OD death

[JOE]

Drug Enforcement Agency wrote:

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Like Robentcorp aleady told us, he gets the press releases and often are the words of the law enforcement agencies, with little actual reporting done.
So in order to not believe what I read, I have to call law enforcement all liars.
I refuse to do that.

well they told the parts of the story that make carrie look worse and ami look more innocent. i know the story first hand. they are my friends. the report the cop gave to the news was bias.

[Abby]

Jody in Holland wrote:

<quoted text> Im happy to hear that the other one got charged with her death. Thats the way it should be with EVERY overdose! They find evidence of you selling it to her then you go down if she dies. Maybe then all these drug pushers can gather whats left of their brain cells & start scratching their heads & FINALLY start using their brains!!

maybe they should arrest the REAL dealer, not the person who was with her. ami paid for the damn drugs, she drove to get them. i agree that drug dealers need off the streets, but carrie is no dealer. she is a sweet, scared, seventeen year old girl. ami was older than carrie, she could have set a better example.

[Abby]

Barry wrote:

<quoted text> UNless she purposefully injected her with enough heroin to kill her she should not be charged. Are gun companies charged when someon commits suicide with a gun?

ami snorted the drug anyways.

[mr obvious]

asasd wrote:

its funny that this is girl is having her friends come on here and saying all this nice stuff about her..she really is very very ugly and everyone thinks so

what everybody does know is that people who call other people ugly are only insecure about their own looks! Sorry for you....

[Mi Ashhole]

Margret wrote:

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carrie isn't a junkie. she did heroin less times than ami. opinions aren't facts, therefore they cannot be informative. if ami were alive, she'd be pissed that her best friend is getting charged for this. ami made a bad decision and people need to accept that. you guys know nothing about her.

I don't recall mentioning carrie.

[Mi Ashhole]

Margret wrote:

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carrie isn't a junkie. she did heroin less times than ami. opinions aren't facts, therefore they cannot be informative. if ami were alive, she'd be pissed that her best friend is getting charged for this. ami made a bad decision and people need to accept that. you guys know nothing about her.

But since you brought it up.....

How many times did each of them use heroin?

How many times did each of them use crack, if any?

How did they use the drugs each time they used them?

Where did they use the drugs each time they used them?

Where did they get the heroin that ami used more times than carrie?

Where did they/she/carrie get the crack?

Thanks in advance for any clarification that you can muster. Sounds like you know them both fairly well.

[sad in kazoo]

Drug Enforcement Agency wrote:

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I believe that in some cases that really could happen. It shouldn't tarnish the reputation of all law enforcement. I was too hasty, perhaps.
I am sorry about what happened to your friends. Both of them. Drug addiction and the subculture is truly a realm that most people don't and can't understand if they haven't walked in those shoes.
I'm sorry if I seemed disrespectful. It wasn't my intention.

you seem like a kind and understanding person. I wish people coule see that both these girls were/are good, sweet and kind not what some of you may think...they just got on a wrong path.

[sad in kazoo]

Trolling Informant wrote:

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Apparently it's too late for one, but the other one better be getting on the right path, right quick.

That's stating the obvious!

[mr obvious]

chris wrote:

I like how people who don't even know amy are comming onto this accusing her of being a drug accit when she wasn't. She barley had time for anything with all the plays especially not drugs, and take it form someone who was very good friends with her she wasn't a drug addict. but who was, was the girl that brought the drugs to her. she just recently came back from rehab because she was doing crack everday, by the way she does look like a crack head. when she got back who would have guessed she got right back into drugs, and became a junkie. Talked amy into doing it brought it over and gave her the same amount that she normally does when amy had never done it before, the court is doing the right thing maybe we can finally get this crackhead out of portage for good, it would deffinetly help.

ok, for the sake of argument lets assume Amy did not have a drug problem....Carrie just got out of rehab, Amy knows Carrie has a problem, so is Amy supportive of Carries recovery effort or is Amy a part of the problem? It is a fact that Amy did drugs with Carrie (at least once) so either Amy didn't care about Carrie's recovery (which makes her very selfish and a lousy friend) but this doesn't sound like the Amy we all knew OR Amy also had a problem with saying NO to drugs. I don't really think there are any other options here...obviously Amy had a problem!

[mr obvious]

Trolling Informant wrote:

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Apparently it's too late for one, but the other one better be getting on the right path, right quick.

Please explain where you think this HELP comes from! AA/NA meetings...that's a joke let's sit around and listen to people talk about how it took them 10, 20, 30 years to recover but they finally did it! There are far more failures than successes, that's discouraging! group therapy? individual therapy? once again sitting around talking about it...doesn't help stop that craving....how can they really get help? No sarcasm here, I'm serious, I really want to know because there are alot of people out there searching for it.....WHERE EXACTLY IS IT?! Don't you think this poor girl tried! The City, The school, Her parents, the law enformcement agencies, even the churches failed her!

[Truth 007]

mr obvious wrote:

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Please explain where you think this HELP comes from! AA/NA meetings...that's a joke let's sit around and listen to people talk about how it took them 10, 20, 30 years to recover but they finally did it! There are far more failures than successes, that's discouraging! group therapy? individual therapy? once again sitting around talking about it...doesn't help stop that craving....how can they really get help? No sarcasm here, I'm serious, I really want to know because there are alot of people out there searching for it.....WHERE EXACTLY IS IT?! Don't you think this poor girl tried! The City, The school, Her parents, the law enformcement agencies, even the churches failed her!

I have been reading many of the posts in here and I think this is a question everyone should be concerned with. I am no expert in this at all. I have had friends and some family members that have been on drugs or dealt with alcholism. I think what needs to happen is for this individual to admit he/she has a problem and wants help. There are many help groups and rehab centers that are more than willing to help. I know there is Project Rehab for one, YMCA and YWCA also had programs that were helpful. Another major thing that will have to change is "your so-called friends". Thats probably one of the hardest things to do. You just can't associated with a circle that continues to do things that got you to the bad place in the first place. Again I am not saying this is will work but I have seen success in some persons lives. And most importantly never give up trying.

[qwerty65]

Truth 007 wrote:

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I have been reading many of the posts in here and I think this is a question everyone should be concerned with. I am no expert in this at all. I have had friends and some family members that have been on drugs or dealt with alcholism. I think what needs to happen is for this individual to admit he/she has a problem and wants help. There are many help groups and rehab centers that are more than willing to help. I know there is Project Rehab for one, YMCA and YWCA also had programs that were helpful. Another major thing that will have to change is "your so-called friends". Thats probably one of the hardest things to do. You just can't associated with a circle that continues to do things that got you to the bad place in the first place. Again I am not saying this is will work but I have seen success in some persons lives. And most importantly never give up trying.

Let me get this straight:

Carrie: just out of rehab, 17 yr old and parents are letting her associate with "old" friends that she hung out with before going in?

Truth 007 is correct - one of the biggest steps is to change friendships/associations. Unfortunately for Carrie & her family, it's taken a huge incident and consequences before Carrie may be truly willing to accept she has a problem and WANTS to change it.

One bigger question to add to the whole mix of helping people who are mixed up into the drug culture is to figure out what would keep them from ever getting into it???? Obviously, today's education programs that are trying to keep our children from even trying drugs are failing. Is it the job of the education system to even be the ones teaching? or is it a family's moral/ethics responsibility to keep our own children from becoming involved in the drug culture? If that were the case could/would we see a decrease in usage, thus overdoses and deaths related to illegal drug usage?

[Truth 007]

qwerty65 wrote:

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Let me get this straight:
Carrie: just out of rehab, 17 yr old and parents are letting her associate with "old" friends that she hung out with before going in?
Truth 007 is correct - one of the biggest steps is to change friendships/associations. Unfortunately for Carrie & her family, it's taken a huge incident and consequences before Carrie may be truly willing to accept she has a problem and WANTS to change it.
One bigger question to add to the whole mix of helping people who are mixed up into the drug culture is to figure out what would keep them from ever getting into it???? Obviously, today's education programs that are trying to keep our children from even trying drugs are failing. Is it the job of the education system to even be the ones teaching? or is it a family's moral/ethics responsibility to keep our own children from becoming involved in the drug culture? If that were the case could/would we see a decrease in usage, thus overdoses and deaths related to illegal drug usage?

The question you raise is very valid. The thing is I dont know if there is a real answer. In the end it is going to be that child's choice and decision. We all know when we were younger that peer pressure was hell on many of us. These kids nowadays got it harder in my opinion. All that we can do is hope that he/she makes a wise decision. The best defense is a good offense. All a parent can do is give their child information and I say install the worst. Don't sugar coat any thing. These kids need to be afraid of trying any drug. That may work and it may not. But we have to remain hopeful and most all prayerful because this is getting out of control.

[same justice for all]

treat her like they treated the black guys that were charged with dealing drugs to these junkies. Give this girl life with no parole. Let's see what they do to her.........nothing she's not black she will get a slap on the wrist. Justice is not blind it's black and white.

[Trolling Informant]

mr obvious wrote:

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Please explain where you think this HELP comes from! AA/NA meetings...that's a joke let's sit around and listen to people talk about how it took them 10, 20, 30 years to recover but they finally did it! There are far more failures than successes, that's discouraging! group therapy? individual therapy? once again sitting around talking about it...doesn't help stop that craving....how can they really get help? No sarcasm here, I'm serious, I really want to know because there are alot of people out there searching for it.....WHERE EXACTLY IS IT?! Don't you think this poor girl tried! The City, The school, Her parents, the law enformcement agencies, even the churches failed her!

Sadly you are correct. Successes in drug recovery are rare compared to relapses.

It is also a mental thing. You have to want it and you have to have the will power and desire to want to face the tough challenges of sobriety.

There are no quick fixes or easy answers. If the addict doesn't respond to treatment and rehab, then there are two choices. Hit rock bottom, or meet Ami's fate.

Perfect example of why we need to know what are kids are doing, who their friends are and talk to them about the dangers of drugs.

I realize sometimes you can talk to your kids until you are blue in the face and things just don't register. Sometimes visual aids work much better. Make your kids watch this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[ummm]

same justice for all wrote:

treat her like they treated the black guys that were charged with dealing drugs to these junkies. Give this girl life with no parole. Let's see what they do to her.........nothing she's not black she will get a slap on the wrist. Justice is not blind it's black and white.

Sigh..........get a clue.

[kalagan]

its nobodys fault everyone should just relax quit callin names we all just need to relax , they wer jus tryin da have sum fun nobdy should be charged with nething

plus even if shes convicted shell prly only get like probe and its not evn her fault

[work with wickham]

she had a attitude, she needed help

[jessica]

jaden roze wrote:

Reminds me of a guy I knew he OD while his friends sat around stoned out of their mind and watched him die. Then went over the the mother and said your son died. I would have killed him. This is a sick story. She watched her friend die and did nothing she should be charged. Unlike the friends I was telling about they got nothing. How hard is it to call 911 and save someone you call a friend's life?

THANK YOU!! someone who knows what they are talking about, this isn't a case about wether amy was a drug user or not, carrie gave amy drugs and they killed her shes being charged with distributing drugs which is exactly what she did.

[Joseph]

jessica wrote:

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THANK YOU!! someone who knows what they are talking about, this isn't a case about wether amy was a drug user or not, carrie gave amy drugs and they killed her shes being charged with distributing drugs which is exactly what she did.

'jessica' we all know you're Kelly. You need to move on, all this anger and revenge won't bring Amy back! She would not have wanted all this.