Some politicians support a Shinnecock...

Some politicians support a Shinnecock casino at Belmont

There are 17 comments on the Newsday story from May 28, 2009, titled Some politicians support a Shinnecock casino at Belmont. In it, Newsday reports that:

Key Long Island political leaders expressed support Thursday for the idea of locating a possible Shinnecock casino at Belmont Park.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Newsday.

CAN YOU FACE THE TRUTH

Englishtown, NJ

#1 May 28, 2009
I posted this earlier. See thgey don't want a casino out east they want it at the Nassau County/Queens city line. They want to destroy the middle class family communities of Elmont, Jamaica Square, Bellrose, Floral Park and Jamaica by bringing gambling with all it's crime, drugs, prostitution, organized crime right into your homes.

SKELOS YOU ARE HISTORY! SUOZZI YOU ARE HISTORY.

We have had enough of you.

One must truly ask if Newsday has one investigative reporter on it's paqyroll. It's called "google" Newsday reporters. You don't even have to leave your desk to discover who and what is behind the "Shinnecock Nation Casino Plans for "Long Island!" That the plan is not for Long Island at all. It is all about Gateway Casino Inc. getting access to New York City properties for casinos.

These "Poor Indian peoples" are being used to front Gateway Casino Resorts Inc.

There is a lot the media isn't telling us about here. Just who is really behind "Shinnecock Nation Casinos" and where do te people behind the scenes want to build these casinos.

So just who is Marian Ilitch and who are her politcal friends? Well start with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Senator Harry Reid, Congressman Charles Rangel, Former Mayor Rudy Guilianni, Senator Carl Levin, Congressman Richard Pombo and the list goes on and on with names such as convicted felon Jack Abramoff and of course George W. Bush.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Bayoff_Il ...

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http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showPerson ...

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"Casino proposals"
The Shinnecocks for several years have proposed opening a casino near the Shinnecock Canal. In October 2007 they made a $2 billion development proposal related to opening a casino at the Aqueduct Race Track in Queens. The proposal was in conjunction with Marian Ilitch, a co-owner of the Detroit Red Wings via the Ilitch Gateway Casino Resorts company.

This proposal was so complicated that few thought it would be approved. It would require the Shinnecock to apply and get official federal recognition as a tribe; the Acqueduct Casino would have to be approved by the state legislature, which has been less supportive of new casino deals on Indian property; and the Acqueduct property would have to be taken into trust by the Department of Interior for the tribe, as it historically did not control property in Queens.

Hey Newsday I did this research in 15 minutes. Maybe your Editor should assign a reporeter to invstigate what is going on for about 15 hours or maybe 15 days. However Marian Ilitch (aka Malina Bayoff Ilitch) politcal backers are so entangled with her from both political parties and her reach goes to the highest levels of the federal government it may take 15 months to discover the real truth as to who and what is behind "Shinnecock Nation."
I smell money

Valley Stream, NY

#6 May 28, 2009
So, now the Tribe from Suffolk will come to Belmont to "control" slot machine gambling?

There's got to be more to this than meets the eye. The community will receive what?

I don't see it happening. How come all the pols are out front in favor of it? Will it help them get re-elected? That's their only real concern.

What about the people who live there? How will it benefit them?
Grumman Picnic Lover

Coram, NY

#7 May 28, 2009
Build a world class casino at Grumman in Calverton. Where high rollers could fly right in and land on the runway...The revenue from the casino could give Riverhead and surrounding communties residents some relief from the sky high taxes we all now pay....Not to mention all the jobs created is so much needed on the east end.

Bring back the Grumman Picnics which was the best family outing ever....bring them back all financed by the casino..
Publius

Valley Stream, NY

#8 May 28, 2009
Casinos have NEVER been good for the people living in the area they are built.

Lots of drunken and horny out-of-towners.

Gambling addicts.

Organized crime.

Disorganized crime.

And of course, like Lotto, very few of the revenues get to "the schools".

The giant, bloated, obese and grotesque politicians borrow and siphon it all off for political gain.

Don't buy it folks.

Don't like where Long Island is headed? Build a casino - you ain't seen nothing yet.
el barto

Highland, NY

#12 May 28, 2009
CAN YOU FACE THE TRUTH wrote:
I posted this earlier. See thgey don't want a casino out east they want it at the Nassau County/Queens city line. They want to destroy the middle class family communities of Elmont, Jamaica Square, Bellrose, Floral Park and Jamaica by bringing gambling with all it's crime, drugs, prostitution, organized crime right into your homes.
SKELOS YOU ARE HISTORY! SUOZZI YOU ARE HISTORY.
We have had enough of you.
One must truly ask if Newsday has one investigative reporter on it's paqyroll. It's called "google" Newsday reporters. You don't even have to leave your desk to discover who and what is behind the "Shinnecock Nation Casino Plans for "Long Island!" That the plan is not for Long Island at all. It is all about Gateway Casino Inc. getting access to New York City properties for casinos.
These "Poor Indian peoples" are being used to front Gateway Casino Resorts Inc.
There is a lot the media isn't telling us about here. Just who is really behind "Shinnecock Nation Casinos" and where do te people behind the scenes want to build these casinos.
So just who is Marian Ilitch and who are her politcal friends? Well start with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Senator Harry Reid, Congressman Charles Rangel, Former Mayor Rudy Guilianni, Senator Carl Levin, Congressman Richard Pombo and the list goes on and on with names such as convicted felon Jack Abramoff and of course George W. Bush.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Bayoff_Il ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Bayoff_Il ...
http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showPerson ...
http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showPerson ...
http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showPerson ...
"Casino proposals"
The Shinnecocks for several years have proposed opening a casino near the Shinnecock Canal. In October 2007 they made a $2 billion development proposal related to opening a casino at the Aqueduct Race Track in Queens. The proposal was in conjunction with Marian Ilitch, a co-owner of the Detroit Red Wings via the Ilitch Gateway Casino Resorts company.
This proposal was so complicated that few thought it would be approved. It would require the Shinnecock to apply and get official federal recognition as a tribe; the Acqueduct Casino would have to be approved by the state legislature, which has been less supportive of new casino deals on Indian property; and the Acqueduct property would have to be taken into trust by the Department of Interior for the tribe, as it historically did not control property in Queens.
Hey Newsday I did this research in 15 minutes. Maybe your Editor should assign a reporeter to invstigate what is going on for about 15 hours or maybe 15 days. However Marian Ilitch (aka Malina Bayoff Ilitch) politcal backers are so entangled with her from both political parties and her reach goes to the highest levels of the federal government it may take 15 months to discover the real truth as to who and what is behind "Shinnecock Nation."
in the end,casino gambling is easy revenues that create far more problems than they solve. im less than 10 miles from belmont and i dont want a casino.

look at all the $$ the lottery generates-how much of it goes to the schools? very little because most of it is siphoned off to the states general fund and or to try and plug yet another bottomless financial hole.
Ren Hoek

United States

#16 May 28, 2009
Just look at AC and you'll know what the Belmont area will be like. No casino on LI. If you've got so much money you don't know what to do withit other than put it into a machine than go to Vegas. The returns are better there anyway.
Truth Teller

Hackensack, NJ

#17 May 28, 2009
Reality wrote:
To the first poster your post was Way too long winded.
I stopped reading it after the 2nd word.
Please allow me to sum up what the long winded poster was attempting to say:

He's against the idea.
Jeff Rosen retired NYPD

Stamford, CT

#18 May 28, 2009
NO WAY!! As a racing fan for almost 40 years DO NOT ruin one of the most beautiful racetracks in the world. If you have to put it in a NYRA track, put it in Aqueduct only.
Steve

Huntington Station, NY

#19 May 28, 2009
Yea a casino!!!...lets create more low paying jobs that can't support a family of one on Long Island.
LIer

Oakdale, NY

#20 May 28, 2009
SUOZZI YOU ARE HISTORY!

SKELOS YOU ARE HISTORY!

We have had enough of you two corrupt idiots.
saratogabound

New York, NY

#22 May 28, 2009
What happened to the "racino" at Aqueduct???? And in these economic times the last thing people need is more aimless casinos. Oh yea-- it creates jobs! Temporary junk jobs. Why not use the Calverton property? Why ruin Belmont and surrounding neighborhoods???
who cares

Flanders, NJ

#23 May 28, 2009
who cares

Flanders, NJ

#24 May 28, 2009
1. We admitted we were powerless over gambling - that our lives had become unmanageable.
2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to a normal way of thinking and living.
3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of this Power of our own understanding.
4. Made a searching and fearless moral and financial inventory of ourselves.
5. Admitted to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
6. Were entirely ready to have these defects of character removed.
7. Humbly asked God (of our understanding) to remove our shortcomings.
8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed and became willing to make amends to them all.
9. Make direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong, promptly admitted it.
11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.
12. Having made an effort to practice these principles in all our affairs, we tried to carry this message to other compulsive gamblers.
who cares

Flanders, NJ

#25 May 28, 2009
1. Did you ever lose time from work or school due to gambling?
2. Has gambling ever made your home life unhappy?
3. Did gambling affect your reputation?
4. Have you ever felt remorse after gambling?
5. Did you ever gamble to get money with which to pay debts or otherwise solve financial difficulties?
6. Did gambling cause a decrease in your ambition or efficiency?
7. After losing did you feel you must return as soon as possible and win back your losses?
8. After a win did you have a strong urge to return and win more?
9. Did you often gamble until your last dollar was gone?
10. Did you ever borrow to finance your gambling?
11. Have you ever sold anything to finance gambling?
12. Were you reluctant to use "gambling money" for normal expenditures?
13. Did gambling make you careless of the welfare of yourself or your family?
14. Did you ever gamble longer than you had planned?
15. Have you ever gambled to escape worry, trouble, boredom or loneliness?
16. Have you ever committed, or considered committing, an illegal act to finance gambling?
17. Did gambling cause you to have difficulty in sleeping?
18. Do arguments, disappointments or frustrations create within you an urge to gamble?
19. Did you ever have an urge to celebrate any good fortune by a few hours of gambling?
20. Have you ever considered self destruction or suicide as a result of your gambling?

Most compulsive gamblers will answer yes to at least seven of these questions.
Lucky

Hollywood, FL

#26 May 28, 2009
who cares wrote:
1. Did you ever lose time from work or school due to gambling?
2. Has gambling ever made your home life unhappy?
3. Did gambling affect your reputation?
4. Have you ever felt remorse after gambling?
5. Did you ever gamble to get money with which to pay debts or otherwise solve financial difficulties?
6. Did gambling cause a decrease in your ambition or efficiency?
7. After losing did you feel you must return as soon as possible and win back your losses?
8. After a win did you have a strong urge to return and win more?
9. Did you often gamble until your last dollar was gone?
10. Did you ever borrow to finance your gambling?
11. Have you ever sold anything to finance gambling?
12. Were you reluctant to use "gambling money" for normal expenditures?
13. Did gambling make you careless of the welfare of yourself or your family?
14. Did you ever gamble longer than you had planned?
15. Have you ever gambled to escape worry, trouble, boredom or loneliness?
16. Have you ever committed, or considered committing, an illegal act to finance gambling?
17. Did gambling cause you to have difficulty in sleeping?
18. Do arguments, disappointments or frustrations create within you an urge to gamble?
19. Did you ever have an urge to celebrate any good fortune by a few hours of gambling?
20. Have you ever considered self destruction or suicide as a result of your gambling?
Most compulsive gamblers will answer yes to at least seven of these questions.
Whew!! Only 6.
mindd

AOL

#27 May 30, 2009
being a dirict decendant NATIVE AMERICAN i wish the SHINNECOCKS all the best.
TRR

Hanover, MD

#28 Jun 2, 2009
I am against this proposal. It's an easy form of revenue for the state that will NEVER benefit the local community.
And is there anyone out there who trusts our elected officials to do the right thing in these circumstances?

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