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Feb 26, 2008
 
This is so good, just have to share it:HOME DEFENSE- OK Here's the Mom's perspective:

My husband and I nearly came to blows over whether to keep a gun in the house when our son was born. With the rampant misuse of guns in schools and other places, plus all the gun-related accidental death & injury that happens every day, I wanted those lethal pieces of metal out of my home. My beloved, protective husband felt his ability to care for and protect his family was compromised without a gun in the house, and he was as bull-headed and stubborn as I was. I think we represent this argument pretty well**********
SAXD45 responds:I'm more inclined to describe you in those terms (bullheaded & stubborn) than your husband. I'm inclined to believe few, if any, home defense experts would support the theory a compound bow is a suitable alternative to a hand gun or shot gun for home defense. A sign on your front door announcing THIS HOME PROTECTED BY AN EXPERT ARCHER & COMPOUND BOW sounds laughable to me. On the other hand, my home protected by a 12 gauge shot gun and a 45 caliber semi automatic pistol would put fear in the heart of many criminals
Nicholas

Atwater, CA

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Dec 19, 2008
 

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Naw your not being bullheaded, ignore the naysayers, those bows where in warfare for thousands of years, they can and will kill, albeit a gun is far more effecient.
If you wanted a house without a gun you shouldn't have started a family with a man with low self esteem, I come from a long line of low lives, and not one of them had a gun for home defense, most of them had a bat if anything.
Charlie

Tolleson, AZ

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May 9, 2010
 

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Ok... first of all a guy who owns a gun for home defense doesn't have low self esteem. The man who made this comment clearly is a man who has know clue what he is talking about and is ignorent. I think that a bow would make an ok home defense weapon, but the problem is that you would have to be really good with one to make it work for home defense. A gun would do the job a heck of a lot better, but a bow could work.
Shadow

Tacoma, WA

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Dec 11, 2010
 

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I know im late but i hope you can still see my comment.
Yes a gun has a bigger fearfactor but if you place a shot for a kill or you have an accidental kill like say a collapsed lung. Your looking at possible jail time given the evidence scenario and your resident's law's, but honestly the bow is in noway a bad choice and in some point's i feel better.I have two bow's a slingbow and one shotgun and the offcourse since im a midevil reenactor I have swords and knive's now my first thought was too grab my sword but let's just say for the way you would use a sword i asked an officer bad idea but for a distance weapon I choose my bow or slingbow over my shotty.
An my reasoning behind that is One: SILENCE yes a gun has the fear factor but think about it prowlers and burglar's work in the dark. With a bow it's easier to hide and sneak to make different shot's remember the silence part can't see or hear you can't harm or shoot you(I know sounds like im a rambo wannabe but im right too).Two cheaper, safer to use, reusable ammo You can shoot one arrow multiple times before replacement or build (if you make your own) and here is an interesting one You can make an explosive arrow verry cheaply to create a cuncusion next to the persons if there is more then one.I will not explain how just look up online you'll find it. Three:If you have the means in today's time they have extremly compact, extremely powerful compound bow's that only have a length of two feet but can shoot through a Bison at 50ft.Four:Take a look into the sling bow it will cost you maybe 40-50 buck's at walmart to get the supplys to make one but for close range it is acceptable to kill big game.Buy a slingshot$10-$13 Wisker biscuit$20 power replacement band's$5-$7 then arrow's it's very easy to make just look up dave canterburry on you tube with slingbow.

Oh and just a suggestion get a multi function flashlight that has storbe ability. Reason I say this is it can be a verry efective tool. Basicly the best use for it is you hear the intruder in the other room. You get your weapon and the light turn the light on to strobe and toss it into the room where there at. You know how on holloween with the strobe light how they mess up your ability to focus. Well there you go, now im not saying it's gonna work perfect on everyone and everytime but it can add an advantage on your side. One man had one attatched to his unloaded shotgun and stun'd and held a robber on the gound with one untell the police (late as usual) showed up so it can work, Or go buy a big holloween stobe and rig it in the liveing room to be turned on at anytime be sure to rig it up by where you come in from your room.
Other then all that i wish you and your family safe sleepfull night's.
I have Two kid's a son and daughter God help anyone or anything try to bring harm to them.
Shadow

Tacoma, WA

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Dec 11, 2010
 
OH ONE MORE THING FOR GUN LOVER'S (I AM ONE TOO SO DON'T THINK IM HATEING ANYONE JUST PREFER OLD SCHOOL WEAPONS IS ALL)IM JUST STATEING THIS FOR ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE.
HERE IS THE NUMBER ONE THING BULLET'S CAN MAKE IT THROUGH WALLS AND KILL THE KID IN NEXT ROOM OR HOUSE (PISTOLS YES DEPENDS ON THE CALIBER BUT I THINK IF A .22 MAG CAN DO IT ANYTHING HIRE WILL)(SHOTGUNS:WON'T MAKE IT THROUGH BUT THAT DEPENDS ON THE ROUND ALSO. TARGET ROUNDS IM DOUBTING IT AND DEPENDS ON THICKNESS OF THE WALL,BUT CHAMBER A SLUG OR 3INCH "00" MAGNUM BIG HOLE THERE)(RIFLE:AGAIN DEPENDS ON CALIBER AND ROUND BUT COMEON RIFLES ARE FOR A VERY LONG DISTANCE SHOT. DEPENDING ON THE STYLE BUT 90%-95% ARE GOING TO MAKE IT THROUGH THAT WALL AND INTO THE NEXT COUNTY)

sorry about the long comment's and cap's i just wanted to talk and explain my point's and view's on your subject.
I DO SUGGEST THOUGH KEEP A PISTOL EXTREMELY HIDDEN WHERE KID'S WILL NOT FIND OR BEABLE TO GET TO IT IF THEY DO FIND IT. IN YOUR ROOM SUCH AS A SMALL SAFE OR SOMETHING HIDDEN DEEP AWAY AND ONLY YOU CAN ACCESS. JUST TO PUT IN YOUR BACK OR SIDE AS A SECONDARY OPTION FOR A JUST INCASE SITUATION.

oh and just another good defense idea get 37mm flare launcher depending on your law's. you can get baton rounds that will hurt the person for a month or more, they have beanbag rounds and other defenseive non lethal rounds, but depending on your laws you may have to register it to the atf as a dd (destructive device) to beable to own or use those type of rounds
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nac5004

Carrolltown, PA

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Apr 10, 2012
 

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A bow is better than nothing. Why not get a quick safe. Keep the pistol in there and when it is needed just enter a pin number and it quickly opens. they have ones now that will even read fingerprints.
Dude

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#8
Nov 30, 2012
 
Bow will be sadistic and work well but a pistol/ shotgun/ rifle will have easier firing ability not to mention follow up shots but a bow will be good if it's only one intruder especially
Daryl

Durban, South Africa

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Dec 19, 2012
 

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Whilst the gun gives u the advantage of a continuous shots, if you are in the dark and there are multiple attackers then having the ability to fire shots quickly means nothing... as soon as you fire your first shot you have given up your exaTct location in the dark. The intruders or attackers know exactly where to return fire too. With a bow and arrow u have the element of surprise and if you are skilled then you can learn to load rather quickly. Yes it does take skill but the same applies to a gun, DON'T get a gun and think it's ur answer to all ur problems. You should become skilled in any weapon you chose to carry otherwise DON'T carry it. A gun in the hands of a person who doesn't know how to use it properly could end up being a hindrance rather than ur savior. My advice, if you looking at purely home defence...then invest in a few military grade flash chargers and a good compact compound bow and arrow. flash charge the intruders and then whip out ur bow and arrow and finish them off. Depending on what country you live it and how much faith you have in ur justice system, you might want to actually make sure the intruders are dead. No before I get blasted for being a sicko...let me explain. I live in South Africa, beautiful country but shocking crime rate dogged with a justice system thats a joke, and a corrupt police force. So if someone breaks into my house and I apprehend them and call the cops, the conviction rate is less than 10% so that means the guy will be let out in a months, weeks, days even ....or if you bribes the cop even the same night he was arrested he could be released. NOW, my question is...what guarantee do I have that he will not come back to my home and attack my wife or kids whilst I am not there?? How can you guarantee the safety of your loved ones? In my case, I believe that killing him is the only way to guarantee my families safety. If it goes to court and I get questioned on using excessive force, I will ask the judge if he/she could guarantee my families safety if I had allowed the law to take course? HE/SHE will certainly say NO, then my reply would be that by killing the attackers I just guaranteed my families safety against that attacker.Is it a crime to do what it takes to protect your family? The intruders death is a result of him breaking the law, had he not broke the law and entered my property then I WOULD not have had to kill him... so why should I be at fault?
bow guy

Racine, WI

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Dec 30, 2012
 

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I think it all depends. The relaity is that studies show that 90 percent of break ins the robber don't have a firearm. And out of those ten percent they carry a hand gun not a shot gun. So if you had a powerful bow and were good with it you would have a chance. Then there is the Samarui sword for back up, can slice someone in half has decent reach. For people that say, "well a powerful bow might work excpect for follow up shot, not true, take a look on you tube at LarsAnderson, guys only been practicing for like 3 years and because of his technique he can shoot several arrows in 10 seconds or less. Thats 4 or 5 shots in 10 seconds. Deadly, just imagine what 10 years of training could do, also he is hitting moving targets, and he himself is moving.

A good alarm system, a doberman, german shepherd preferably guard dog trained, windows that can't be shattered, special locks, signs saying propery is video taped, so many things to help with home security before you even get into the question of best self defense weapon. Prevention first.

A bear spray that spreads out 15-45 feet can be really efffective. Hard to shoot somoene when you can't see straight.

It's strange to me how many gun owners say things like, I have my 357 under the bed, my wife has her 45, ready to go, I have my 12 gauge loaded and ready nobody getting us bla bla. Then you ask them and find out they don't lock there doors, have no security system, breakable windows, week locks, no dogs for warning. All those guns don't do a person much good when 2 or 3 guys come storming in with a crow bar into you room, let a lone if they had a week short 22 you would be toast. Prevention first, all the guns in the world mean little without proper provention.
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Jan 8, 2013
 

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i like hot cocoa
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Roanoke, VA

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Feb 10, 2013
 
Nicholas wrote:
Naw your not being bullheaded, ignore the naysayers, those bows where in warfare for thousands of years, they can and will kill, albeit a gun is far more effecient.
If you wanted a house without a gun you shouldn't have started a family with a man with low self esteem, I come from a long line of low lives, and not one of them had a gun for home defense, most of them had a bat if anything.
This conversation is not rational. Where I live our police force discussed a case that has grave implications for all here!! Burglar broke N 2 home. Owner shot burglar and put him N hospital where taxpayers could pay for his medical care. Burglar gets tax paid lawyer later and sues homeowner. Approx. 6 months after court, homeowner walks out of home early one AM and gets murdered!! By the burglar who broke N 2 his home. An officer told me if have 2 shoot someone, MAKE SURE THEY R DEAD B 4 CALLING POLICE!!! Your choice of weapons? Who cares!! Just make sure it works!!
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#14
Mar 23, 2013
 
a bow is a good way to protect yourself assuming you still have some distance between yourself and the criminal..they have laser guided broad-head arrows now that are extreamly accurate and if you adjust your bow to have a low draw weight it can be very fast to get ready for a shot and still have effective stopping power at the short range most people will be shooting in a house.

my own opinion,get a 20 gauge..nothing is more important then your family's and your life..practice gun safety with them..show them what a gun does and the proper way to use it..gun responsibility is not something your kids are going to learn on their own and chances are they are going to come in contact with a gun at some point in their life so teach them now.
buzhood

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Mar 31, 2013
 
When you shoot someone or animal the arrow has to make them bleed out? what if they have a gun and the strength to still pull the trigger and fire at you? Making a kill shot is fine if you have the skill, but what if it is a leg or torso hit? Only a shot in the heart or maybe a jugular hit would cause a quick death? Myself, I would go for multiple hits so as make sure they bleed very good and look like a pincushion. Save the county the cost of room and board.
Gerald

Bessemer City, NC

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Jul 14, 2013
 
Nicholas wrote:
Naw your not being bullheaded, ignore the naysayers, those bows where in warfare for thousands of years, they can and will kill, albeit a gun is far more effecient.
If you wanted a house without a gun you shouldn't have started a family with a man with low self esteem, I come from a long line of low lives, and not one of them had a gun for home defense, most of them had a bat if anything.
Well duh bows kill and will continue I kill. But different weapons do different things. You wouldn't wanna try I make a 1 mile kill with a pistol would you? No because that's not what it's for. Our use the proper tool for the job. Just like you wouldn't use a bow for home defense. A bow is for target and hunting. A shotgun you can just grab and shoot an intruder, a bow you have to get an arrow nocked, draw it, aim then release. All if which is near impossible to do in a confined area like a home with a normal draw length of about 27-30 in. And in archery, concentration is key. You can't just draw it point it and shoot it. Especially under pressure. Plus a goo bow that's well tuned can make a pass through which is where it goes all the way through a full sized animal. If your concerned about harming family also in the house (say the next room) you don't want an arrow with broadheads flying through a wall. A shotgun is your best bet. Birdshot will definetly be the perfect shell your you because a drywall will stop it asking as you hit the target (which you will. A shotgun you barley have I aim. You can point it from the hip and hit something) but its got enough energy to kill a man. You don't want hundreds of tiny pellets in your face. Not trying to be mean but a home defense bow? That's flat out retarded
Gerald

Bessemer City, NC

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Jul 14, 2013
 
saxd45 wrote:
This is so good, just have to share it:HOME DEFENSE- OK Here's the Mom's perspective:
My husband and I nearly came to blows over whether to keep a gun in the house when our son was born. With the rampant misuse of guns in schools and other places, plus all the gun-related accidental death & injury that happens every day, I wanted those lethal pieces of metal out of my home. My beloved, protective husband felt his ability to care for and protect his family was compromised without a gun in the house, and he was as bull-headed and stubborn as I was. I think we represent this argument pretty well**********
SAXD45 responds:I'm more inclined to describe you in those terms (bullheaded & stubborn) than your husband. I'm inclined to believe few, if any, home defense experts would support the theory a compound bow is a suitable alternative to a hand gun or shot gun for home defense. A sign on your front door announcing THIS HOME PROTECTED BY AN EXPERT ARCHER & COMPOUND BOW sounds laughable to me. On the other hand, my home protected by a 12 gauge shot gun and a 45 caliber semi automatic pistol would put fear in the heart of many criminals
And if your worried about your child playing with a gun, its easy to fix. All my life sense I can remember my parents have instilled firearm fundamentals in my mind. When I was little if I even pointed a water gun or cap gun at someone my parents would throw it away. Then when I showed them I could be trusted my dad bought me a BB gun, then .22, then shotgun, and iv never had a firearm accident and sense I was really little I haven't ever pointed a gun (even cap or water gun) at anything I wouldn't shoot with a real gun. In my opinion, get a gun, and from an early age drill the safety and importance of safety in your child's mind.
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Jul 18, 2013
 
Commander Twinkletoes wrote:
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I do to. I like it in a coffee cup, in a paper cup, in a glass, doesn't matter.

Oh, and please call me dick
Joe

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Jul 19, 2013
 
A bow may be better when there is multiple intruders because you can use stealth to your advantage. All they will hear is the "ugh" of their buddy as he gets hit with an arrow. They will see him on the ground with an arrow in his chest and you will remain hidden. You can pick them off one by one.(Assuming it is a low light environment)
John

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Jul 23, 2013
 
Stop being a liberal. Get a gun.

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Aug 19, 2013
 
Yes
Ben Dover

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#22
Dec 6, 2013
 
If you're dumb enough to think you can honestly use a bow for home defense, than I'm glad you don't have a gun

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