Support group for cys victims

Since: Jul 13

Lewistown, PA

#21 Jul 14, 2013
tax payer wrote:
? Why aren't we using are real names. I have nothing to hide. I think if we use are real name we could pm each other. Cys and the MH/MR programs already knows who we are, but as a group with the truth, we do have POWER. And I believe the Attorney Generals office was called, and maybe local news reporters. at least that has been the buzz around town.
I have nothing to hide. I'm Chelsea weaver. Ppl more know me by grove. Grove is my maidan name. I have three children that were taken by cys. Reason why is because they been trying since 2011 with many failed attempts. In my 5 court hears from oct till feb there was many reason most that the judge turned down. So cys request I see CYS'S psychologist which I did and he lied threw this teeth. He claims I have a personality disorder. The cys stated to the judge there is no safety issues in the home and no abuse. All this was said in court so is documented. But the reason they got my kids was my "personality disorder". There is plenty of families where a family member has a disorder and they still have their kids. But I see a therapist once a week every week and never miss a session, it's court ordered and my therapist says I do not have a personality disorder. Also have asked a few drs that I been seeing for years like for mess for my mood disorder and family drs and they all said they do not see a personality disorder. But cys paid my visits to their psychologist and I got screwed over just like everyone else that had to go to him. Now cys request I see him again and I refuse. I asked to see someone else and they will not allow it. I think we all need to contact ACLU also. We are being taken for a ride. I recently got engaged and I am pregnant. I'm due in 6 weeks. Cys want to take this baby too and they couldn't cause they had nothing on my fiancé and he had his children full time. But cys fixed that. They went to his kids day care while my fiancé was at work and talked to them, they are ages 2 and 4. The two year old cant talk, the 4 yr old talks very little but is hard to understand. So cys claims the children told them I am mean to them and don't like them. And that I was driving them around in the car. Those kids adore me and they both love me and know I love them. Also an interesting fact they quote what the children said. The 4 yr old said and this is what cys said she said mind u "Chelsea is mean to me" "Chelsea does not like me" now.... Those kids don't call me Chelsea. They call me mommy and have since two weeks after I met them. So more of cys's lies. So they took my fiance's kids and he now has to be supervised with them, they live at his mothers. Now they claim is is unfit to have the baby so they want emergency custody at birth. Scams! I really feel cys is all about the money and not the well fair of the child. And the court systems allow it. If anyone has any questions for me feel free to ask me, or any advice it's welcome cause I do all cys asks me to do and I keep asking what else can I do since I have done everything and my case worker says every time, I don't know. I really love my kids. My kids were never abused or left alone or not taken care of. They were always fed, clean, and had everything they ever wanted and needed. They were always tucked in at night with swarms of hugs and kisses and knew they were loved. They are loving caring kids who miss their mommy. They been crying to come home and I told them I am getting a new lawyer and they would be home soon. I hated to see them crying to me to come home. So I told them that and my case worker later told me in a phone call I can not tell them that because its giving them false hope. So there proves they have no intention on giving my kids back and sending them home. My grandmother sits in Walmart parking lot just for that 1% chance she might get to see them going in or coming out if they would be up shopping. Not only I miss them but my grandparents and parents miss them dearly.

Since: Jul 13

Lewistown, PA

#22 Jul 14, 2013
What about the community center at rec park to meet at? And I could possibly do fliers. Let me see if my sister will help. She's good at that stuff.

Since: Jul 13

Lewistown, PA

#23 Jul 14, 2013
No we do want that church involved. That church is the one that let cys come in and take my fiance's kids with no court order and no police officer. And they also talked about our situation amongst themselves when we were not around. Gossiped about us and our children. Due to that's where his mother goes to church and she is as crooked as cys. She with them and has people's kids taken. Could we find a mutual place? Like rec park community center?
been there mom

Lewistown, PA

#25 Jul 16, 2013
My reason for not wanting to use my real name is I know first hand if you go against Mifflin cy they make your life worse. They are a lot of vindictive people running MCCY.It has been this way for a LONG time now and a group about 10 yrs ago tried to get someone to look into it ...But the commissioners were just as corrupt.
fightmccys

Howard, PA

#26 Jul 23, 2013
I have set up an email [email protected], a group definitely needs to get together
kim

Lancaster, PA

#27 Jul 26, 2013
Ok, I am wondering how cys even gets involved with a family if there is no issue within the family. I have many friends and relatives in mifflin county, and i live there too, and none of them have EVER had CYS come knocking on their door. Seems to me that there has to be a reason for them to get a call in the first place. I mean, they dont just pick families at random and show up at your house. Im not trying to start trouble, but, just sayin.
Johnny Walker

Middleburg, PA

#28 Jul 30, 2013
You people are ridiculous. CYS doesn't want to take your children. There are many reasons they do remove children from the homes. Your local CYS agency does a good job and you should be thankful that you have such caring people working in your county.
Anonymous

Greencastle, PA

#29 Aug 3, 2013
The idea that CYS makes money from taking children is outrageous! It costs money to keep children in foster care. Maybe instead of wasting time on meetings blaming everyone else you should take a look in the mirror. If you don't have your children, you are the only one to blame. Just a thought.
Johnny Walker

Mifflintown, PA

#30 Aug 10, 2013
Well said anonymous. The people who are commenting know that their past behaviors are the reasons for not having their children. Lets face it, if you are a drug abuser and do it around your children, They will be taken! If you allow your children to live in unfit conditions, They will be taken. and the list goes on!!!
johnny walker

Mifflintown, PA

#31 Aug 12, 2013
shouldn't have said "past behaviors" it is their current behaviors.

Since: Sep 13

United States

#32 Sep 1, 2013
It's been about 2 years now ive been involved with cys of mifflin county.ive been threw hell and back and I am currently fighting for my children with all ive got.these ppl have to be the most cold hearted ppl I've come across in my life.ive done everything they have asked and nothing is ever good enough.ive been put threw UCBH services,Abuse Network services and other agencies they have recommended even through David Ray on Chestnut street in Lewistown for tests and even Choices in state college my whole family has been threw or currently attending.my oldest son had shown behavioral problems shortly after my youngest son was born....which is common for the other child to feel left out.i did spend alot of free time with my oldest when he was young but he never really seemed to feel it was enough so his behaviors got worse.On my own both my husband and I tried to get help for him through services like Wrap-Around and the Meadows.Nothing had seemed to be working so we continued to deal with him like this then one day.......everything had changed.....cys had got involved with the help of a church that was caring for my children at the time due to the parents working.i was accused by cys of abusing my children and my children were taking away even when I had come out and told them how the hand print got on my oldest child's face.....the brothers had got in a small fight the night before and the other one slapped him on the face.first they tried to accuse my husband which let me tell u made them look like a fool cause on the hand they said it was on my husband he is missing a finger....now think about it there is 5 human finger prints on the child's face and the hand they claimed my husband was missing a finger.....hmmmmm????. Next they accused me which I have big hands and on the child's face was a smaller hand print.....come on now is this right to accuse and take ones child cause the boys got in a small fight the night before???? As time went on the kids were returned to us but then things got ugly with cys.my sons behavioral problems had increased due to them sent away....affected him mentally.cys had noticed and my oldest was removed from his home and places in many foster cares in a short time causing his behavioral problems to go extreme until they placed him in Children's Home Of York.till this day I wanna really thank this wonderful place which has changed my child into alot better person and his behaviors have extremely changed for the good. This place had placed my child on medication that he needs and is doing alot better....he has his days at times like anyone else.my problem is still my child is only on a home trial while my other son is in foster care due to cys.cys tried to say they were seeing the same behavioral problems as my other time which is totally not at all true.ive lost my job due to these ppl.i had a choice in court either my job or my children and of course I've chosen my children and will continue to fight for them.threw the last 2 years ive been told i need parenting skills ....I was raised at home by a very loving yet strict mother and I've learned so much off of her and use the same in my house to raise my children....and I'm strict how could I need parenting skills???? These cys ppl are always going to court making false statements and making my home look unsafe and unstable parents....this is so wrong and were drawing close to my youngest being adopted because of these false statements.....tell me how can this county cys ppl get away with all this stuff they put families threw mentally and physically and get away with it??? I really need some help and advice to deal with all this my court hearing is soon and these ppl cys are getting away with it.ive called Harrisburg main quarters 4 times and filed complaints and nothing is being done.please help support our family and what we are going threw.
fightmccys

Howard, PA

#33 Sep 10, 2013
There is a group getting to gather to fight them ,
that doctor is in with them , calling regional does nothing but gets back to mifflin county cys so they can "take care of you" , the same people they sent from regional to investigate them this last time was the same people that have been complained about not doing anything about it before , heck after all of these complaints , they have less violations then they ever did, it is funny that the same attorney that represents mifflin cys , is the same for the commissioners , and if you cross cys or the commissioners , she will be after you, well it does help that the cys administrator is really good friends with the commissioners , state reps do want a real investigation , but people just hide around the buracracy or threaten people in round about ways , the thing is , there is money missing , children being taken , abused , and not helped by cys, families being destroyed , these "fics" independant contractors commiting illegal acts to take kids , same as the caseworkers , threats being made ,
and dpw just had an investigation , nothing happened , it is time to stand up as a group

Since: Sep 13

United States

#34 Sep 11, 2013
fightmccys wrote:
There is a group getting to gather to fight them ,
that doctor is in with them , calling regional does nothing but gets back to mifflin county cys so they can "take care of you" , the same people they sent from regional to investigate them this last time was the same people that have been complained about not doing anything about it before , heck after all of these complaints , they have less violations then they ever did, it is funny that the same attorney that represents mifflin cys , is the same for the commissioners , and if you cross cys or the commissioners , she will be after you, well it does help that the cys administrator is really good friends with the commissioners , state reps do want a real investigation , but people just hide around the buracracy or threaten people in round about ways , the thing is , there is money missing , children being taken , abused , and not helped by cys, families being destroyed , these "fics" independant contractors commiting illegal acts to take kids , same as the caseworkers , threats being made ,
and dpw just had an investigation , nothing happened , it is time to stand up as a group


Yes I agree.....so much is being done to my family and other families and its not right.plz let me know on how to get involved we gotta save families from these evil ppl.i seen in the paper on Saturday someone else also is complaining......hope they find this site.
fightmccys

Blain, PA

#35 Sep 12, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
The idea that CYS makes money from taking children is outrageous! It costs money to keep children in foster care. Maybe instead of wasting time on meetings blaming everyone else you should take a look in the mirror. If you don't have your children, you are the only one to blame. Just a thought.
The Adoption and the Safe Families Act, set in motion first in 1974 by Walter Mondale and later in 1997 by President Bill Clinton, offered cash “bonuses” to the states for every child they adopted out of foster care. In order to receive the “adoption incentive bonuses” local child protective services need more children. They must have merchandise (children) that sells and you must have plenty so the buyer can choose. Some counties are known to give a $4,000 to $6,000 bonus for each child adopted out to strangers and an additional $2,000 for a “special needs” child. Employees work to keep the federal dollars flowing;



· State Departments of Human Resources (DHR) and affiliates are given a baseline number of expected adoptions based on population. For every child DHR and CPS can get adopted, there is the bonus of $4,000 or maybe $6,000. But that is only the beginning figure in the formula in which each bonus is multiplied by the percentage that the State has managed to exceed its baseline adoption number. Therefore States and local communities work hard to reach their goals for increased numbers of adoptions for children in foster care.

look at that , they do get money
whatever

State College, PA

#36 Sep 16, 2013
I have four children. 2 of them are school aged, the other 2 are out of high school (the one has been working for the last 3 years and the other is in her Freshman year of college).

CYS never came and tried to "take my kids"....in fact, I've never once had any interaction with CYS whatsoever. I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess they probably don't just randomly select families to investigate.
Johnny Walker

Mifflintown, PA

#37 Sep 17, 2013
Fightmccys,

The goal to adopt children isn't from CYS removed kids. It is from orphaned children or those children who their parents sign over because they, for whatever reason, cannot raise them.

A child in foster care through CYS isn't in danger of adoption unless the Court determines that parental rights are terminated. Most CYS cases see children removed to family members as long as there is a stable environment, ie... grandparents, aunts, uncles.

It's amazing that this forum exists. Most of the people on this forum talking bad about CYS have no one to fault but themselves. Sure people make mistakes, but some people never learn from them. And if those same people put their lives before their children and do not care for them, it is no wonder CYS removes them.

Once again, CYS doesn't remove children from "good" homes. I have known some of these people who have posted on this forum and it is no surprise they are involved with CYS. I would venture to guess they themselves were involved in the CYS system as children.

Just my thoughts

Since: Sep 13

Hockessin, DE

#38 Sep 26, 2013
The problem isn't only in mifflin county....it is many counties in Pennsylvania....these ppl have no idea what they r talking about .i was looking up case workers for mifflin county on the Internet and when I found one of them on there and the images .....it showed a case workers picture naked completely and also was holding a can of beer....and this worker has children....how can u work at cys and act normal around those ppl then in there hidden life styles be posing naked and drinking beer....if half the ppl on here seen what I did they would change there mind about those ppl....I'm sorry but posing naked and drinking beer then going to work for cys....makes u really wonder what is really going on....I'm sorry but that is really sad.
Johnny Walker

Mifflintown, PA

#39 Sep 26, 2013
Broken heart mother,

I can not justify the acts of all people, however, it doesn't matter what profession you are in there will always be people who don't display the level of professionalism on and off the job that they should. I have heard rumors of CYS workers who have been arrested and gone through the judicial system. I have seen first hand other county employees become highly intoxicated and have difficulty standing, then the following week tell people they shouldn't drink.
Regardless, you cannot take the actions of one, maybe two individuals, and assume all workers are the same. As for the naked picture, it just goes to show that some people don't grow up. Overall as a whole, the Mifflin Co. CYS Dept. are very professional. I am sorry you have to deal with an individual who is not.

Since: Sep 13

United States

#40 Sep 26, 2013
I've heard it years ago and still hearing it today and even witnessed a few coming out of the bar barely standing then getting in there car and driving.....you know if it was one of us regular kind of ppl coming out and driving home in that kinda condition we would have the cops on us right away.....they all get away with so much but then tell us to do good....come on now. I don't even drink at all....I've picked a few friends up at a bar to get them safely home and that's it.....I don't see any reason for me to go out and get drunk when I can spend time home with my children doing family things.im not saying all case workers are the same but this one ......I'm sorry but that is shameful to see a women on the Internet like that and then telling me that I'm wrong in everything I do.i would never have the nerve to do such a thing I would be totally ashamed. Cys has to be more careful with who they choose as there workers cause that's making them all look bad.its ashame to the county also.i sit every night praying to The Lord above that my family gets back to normal again and we can all be a good living family again....life has changed so much since they have been involved....u get no peace....that sit just inches away from u when ur eating at a visit....they are constantly texting on there cell phones....you know if they really would concentrate on the visit the reports would be different....I don't understand why the judge or someone dosnt see who this lady really is and how she acts around my family....when 2 ppl come....she is nice as can be and acts so innocent.im about to lose my child forever over this lady....and yet as u know they all stick up for each other.i just keep praying and have faith like the bible tells us to....and if it goes the other direction then I see it this way.....god will judge that women someday for what she has done and then she won't be able to hide....everything will come out.....she laughs when I talk about god....she will see later surely....god eventually will get everyone in the end for all they have done wrong....no one will hide then.
anonymous

Lewistown, PA

#41 Sep 27, 2013
You can do almost anything with photoshop.

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