I wonder when the U A W and unions that have destroyed major industries, lowered the standards of public education while emptying the pockets of taxpayer's will get it through their thick skulls that the party IS OVER! The greed and thievery that did such damage to the industry of the country will now begin to affect unions and their members. Let's face it, if Obama, who serves the Unions does put through "card check" to make it easier to unionize everybody, you can say hello to a MAJOR depression.!! I believe the unions are directly responsible for our troubled economy, together with the fantastic and irresponsible spending and the inevitable crash of our economy. I am very worried and unhappy at the prospects for recovery as long as Obama is in charge.
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#22 Jun 21, 2009
there you go again blame the working man because he wants to belong to to a trade union and improve the quality of life for his family. just so you undersatand all the wages and benifits are agreed to during collective bargaining and the money for everything is agreed upon at that time it's no surprise that when a guy retires after 40 years that he gets a pension the numbers are known in advance. now when the managers take 40 million dollar bonuses and fly around in corprate jets wine and dine on company credit cards drive free company cars this is what effects the health of a company now they want to renegotiate union contracts because managment spent all the profits on themselves now they want the retires money too. the retires didn't kill the electric car the managment did. the reason people organize is so they don't have greedy managment taking advantage of them at will.i know the montra is those union guys make to much money the truth is if they didn't make the salaries they make you wouldn't be paid the salary you make and who do you think fuels the economy a guy making $10.00 an hour or a guy bringing home a decent pay check. it's easy to blame the unions but you wouldn't have the quality of life you have for working people if you didn't have unions fighting for a better living wage and benefits for all working people. the managment of corporations have a long history of worker abuse in this country and make unions the only protection from those abuse's. remember the triangel shirtwaste factory fire,the haymarket affair in chicago and the ludlow mine massacre in colorado. if you don't consider yourself part of the working class then i don't expect you to understand, if you are a member of the working class you should be mad as hell that GM is blaming their problems on the workers. good luck.
#23 Jun 21, 2009
since when is obama running the auto industry he's only been in office for a little over 100 day's it may have something to do with industry run amok during the past administration you know the basiclly deregulator's in charge steal all the money you can types that got run out off office big time. and if you think you wanted the auto manufactures to go bust you should have told bush not to start by giving billions to aig insurance company (bet you didn't know bush's brother works for aig) anyway you can't let the largest manufacturer of anything go bust because you need them in the advent of all out war you can't farm out heavy manufacturing to your enemies,so GM had to be saved like it or not .now the company that manufactured that trailer your living in that's another case. bye bye
#24 Jun 21, 2009
Tell you what "bullfrog", when OB finishes the job of unionizing and nationalizing all industry in the U.S. who will be able to afford or want an overpriced "Government motors" piece of junk.? The handfull of union workers left subsidized by taxpayers.? Don't kid yourself, they will buy Japanese cars manufactured by companies that are free of the deadly stranglehold that the UAW has destroyed the auto industry in the U.S. with. Unions are for themselves, not the working man. Ever notice how the supply of jobs goes down in every industry that the unions take control of?To get industry going again in the U.S., we need LESS unionization, not more.!
#25 Jun 21, 2009
i'll try to be quick so you can get back to watching fox news.if you contend that there are fewer jobs in unionized industries the reason may be because a well trained skilled worker produces more than a low payed untrained worker. the reason you want no unions because you want to pay minimum wage and fire people when they get hurt or start making to much. unions are for everyone that steps up and demands to be treated fairly if you look around most nonunion shops have a higher incidence of injury and occupational disease but the owners of those businesses don't care because without a union they just get rid of the afflicted worker and look for new meat. with a union shop the employer is rewarded with a higher skilled worker that will produce more than than an unskilled worker who is always looking to find a better job,maybe over in that union shop you hate. let me ask you why do you hate people who are trying to better the lives of all workers? do you run a non union shop or are you underpaid and wish you had a union job ?
#26 Jun 22, 2009
I'm glad you asked, but first, "hate" is a very strong word. I would like you to read my comment again and find the word "hate". You are discrediting your argument with inneuendoes that are false. I owned and operated a family business successfully for more than thirty years, and retired after selling my business. This business is thriving and expanding today, providing well paid jobs for locals, and is a credit to the community. I could point to similar shops that had the misfortune to become unionized and are either downsizing or have disappeared because of union intervention.My employees were all highly skilled professionals, and depended on providing excellent service to keep their jobs, and not union intervention. They were all covered with blue cross, blue shield medical coverage provided by me, and were happy with the arrangement, and content to provide for their own retirement, just as I was, for mine. I have never had to fire anyone except for gross misconduct, and was glad not to have to go to court to defend my right to fire an employee, as would have been the case if I had been unionized. Anyone of my employees were free to quit whenever they pleased, and I am happy to say the turnover rate was very close to zero. It is very hard for me to believe that my business carreer would have had the same success had I been constricted with troublesome union intervention.
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