Labels and Judgement
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Preacher

Mineville, NY

#1 Mar 19, 2013
I see a lot of cruelty on this site. I see a lot of name calling, accusations, and filth. Does it make any of you feel better about yourselves to cast your stones? I tell you this, some of the best people I've met in this world were the ones with the worst labels. Do yourselves a favor and take the time to know a person for what is truly in their heart before you even look at that label. You may be surprised, and if you make a decision about a person based on that label rather than who that person is and what is in their heart, you might be missing out on something truly wonderful and regret it for the rest of your life. Those of you who are tempted to respond to this post with negative remarks are only reinforcing this message.:) You are followers, easily led by misery and temptation. The strong are the ones who stand, without shame or fear, by those who are being judged.
Me Again

United States

#2 Mar 19, 2013
A-MEN!!!!!!
WWJD

New York, NY

#4 Mar 21, 2013
Very well put. A lot of people are too quick to jump on the band wagon when a rumor starts. Nobody stood by JC when he got judged either. Look how that turned out. Just saying.
joking

Crown Point, NY

#5 Mar 22, 2013
WWJD wrote:
Very well put. A lot of people are too quick to jump on the band wagon when a rumor starts. Nobody stood by JC when he got judged either. Look how that turned out. Just saying.
you must believe in the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus too, good luck with that..just sayin'
Jackal

Mineville, NY

#6 Mar 22, 2013
Preacher wrote:
I see a lot of cruelty on this site. I see a lot of name calling, accusations, and filth. Does it make any of you feel better about yourselves to cast your stones? I tell you this, some of the best people I've met in this world were the ones with the worst labels. Do yourselves a favor and take the time to know a person for what is truly in their heart before you even look at that label. You may be surprised, and if you make a decision about a person based on that label rather than who that person is and what is in their heart, you might be missing out on something truly wonderful and regret it for the rest of your life. Those of you who are tempted to respond to this post with negative remarks are only reinforcing this message.:) You are followers, easily led by misery and temptation. The strong are the ones who stand, without shame or fear, by those who are being judged.
you really need to consider the area that this subforum deals with, preacher. There is limited economic advancement, limited employment, rampant drug and welfare abuse, limited educational opportunities and a climate that really tests the limits one's self-control. I think the average intelligent person views this forum and the posts therein as maybe entertainment, a social check-valve. Sometimes its better to say things hiding behind a handle rather than start a small-scale nuclear war. I believe that most people in the area take Topix with a grain of salt... it's more 'oh did they just say that?'(and then chuckles ensue) With that said, yes, there are terribly hurtful and ignorant things thrown around, but again, with the advent of the internet age, one grows a thick skin of shuts their machine off. In all honesty, you will not change it, temper it or even re-direct it. If you're offended, don't read it. It's that simple.
WWJD

New York, NY

#7 Mar 23, 2013
I'm finding myself drawn to this forum out of sheer morbid curiosity. It fascinates me to see the peculiarities of the human mentality. I don't judge anybody, It's not my place. I still agree with the preacher, that a person should be seen for their heart and not the labels they have. Think about the other side of it. Priests sin, Cops commit crimes, Doctors maim and kill, Judges hand down unjust sentences, we see this every day. These are people with "GOOD" labels, so is it not fair to believe that "BAD" labels are equally unreliable? Just saying.:)
Agree

Crown Point, NY

#8 Mar 23, 2013
You're so very right!
Labeled

Mineville, NY

#9 Mar 24, 2013
This is a very nice sentiment, but realistically, most people are cowards. They are more concerned with how someone else's label will make THEM look. It doesn't matter how good that person really is, Their label takes precedence over who they really are. Believe me, If you want to see someone's true colors, let them get put on the hot seat about their association with a "Labeled" person. See how quick that color turns YELLOW. A lot of them will even deny they knew about that label to begin with. You can't change human nature, Preacher. People are self centered and ego driven. Appearance is everything. Just keeping it real.
Preacher

Mineville, NY

#10 Mar 25, 2013
Labeled wrote:
This is a very nice sentiment, but realistically, most people are cowards. They are more concerned with how someone else's label will make THEM look. It doesn't matter how good that person really is, Their label takes precedence over who they really are. Believe me, If you want to see someone's true colors, let them get put on the hot seat about their association with a "Labeled" person. See how quick that color turns YELLOW. A lot of them will even deny they knew about that label to begin with. You can't change human nature, Preacher. People are self centered and ego driven. Appearance is everything. Just keeping it real.
AH, keeping it real. Is this why you use the labels "Coward" and "Yellow"? I'm not judging, you've obviously been hurt by someone, but can you see my point? If you allow yourself to be swayed by the negativity of others, it gives them power over you. The person with the un-deserved label is a better person than those who judge and mistreat because of that label. BE the better person. Those who judge will themselves be subject to judgment, even if it's through their own conscience. Yes, people are self centered and ego-driven, and No, I can't change human nature, but people CAN change. TRUST, FAITH and TRUTH are all you need. You just have to put them in the right places.
Labeled

Mineville, NY

#11 Mar 27, 2013
Preacher wrote:
<quoted text> AH, keeping it real. Is this why you use the labels "Coward" and "Yellow"? I'm not judging, you've obviously been hurt by someone, but can you see my point? If you allow yourself to be swayed by the negativity of others, it gives them power over you. The person with the un-deserved label is a better person than those who judge and mistreat because of that label. BE the better person. Those who judge will themselves be subject to judgment, even if it's through their own conscience. Yes, people are self centered and ego-driven, and No, I can't change human nature, but people CAN change. TRUST, FAITH and TRUTH are all you need. You just have to put them in the right places.
I'm sorry you see it that way, but I hardly think that pointing out someone's faults is labeling them. We're talking about the difference between un-deserved labels and people with actual character defects. I don't disagree with everything you said, but the truth is, people do what they do because they are what they are. The shoe either fits or it doesn't. When people try to make the shoe fit where it doesn't, THAT'S labeling. Isn't THAT the point here? I'm not trying to be argumentative, only trying to keep it real, like I said.
Terrible people

Torrance, CA

#12 Mar 27, 2013
The gossip out here is terrible. I've seen several people get mistreated very badly because of what other people are saying about them. I have one friend who is really one of the kindest, and most decent people I've ever known, but because of a label they got from something they didn't even do, they get judged and shunned by people. Preacher is right, I am so glad to have this person in my life, and the ones who turn away from that person are the ones missing out. Shame on all of you for being so hurtful to such a wonderful person.
Labeled

Mineville, NY

#13 Mar 27, 2013
Terrible people wrote:
The gossip out here is terrible. I've seen several people get mistreated very badly because of what other people are saying about them. I have one friend who is really one of the kindest, and most decent people I've ever known, but because of a label they got from something they didn't even do, they get judged and shunned by people. Preacher is right, I am so glad to have this person in my life, and the ones who turn away from that person are the ones missing out. Shame on all of you for being so hurtful to such a wonderful person.
Is this V.?
Not V

Torrance, CA

#14 Mar 28, 2013
Labeled wrote:
<quoted text>Is this V.?
Wrong person. Kind of inappropriate to ask. Not trying to be mean.
Labeled

Mineville, NY

#15 Mar 28, 2013
Not V wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong person. Kind of inappropriate to ask. Not trying to be mean.
Sorry. Thanks.
Remember

Mineville, NY

#16 Mar 29, 2013
WWJD wrote:
Very well put. A lot of people are too quick to jump on the band wagon when a rumor starts. Nobody stood by JC when he got judged either. Look how that turned out. Just saying.
I don't know why you got so many negative remarks about this statement. Being that today is Good Friday And we're supposed to remember the sacrifice that was made for us, I find this statement very appropriate. I don't think it is just the sacrifice we are supposed to remember, but the anguish of being wrongly judged, then betrayed and forsaken by those who are closest to you. I don't care if other people don't like my comment. It's what I believe and I would never turn my back on someone because of what other people thought. Like Preacher said, you should treat a person by what's in their heart, nothing else.
Jackal

Mineville, NY

#17 Mar 30, 2013
Remember wrote:
<quoted text> I don't know why you got so many negative remarks about this statement. Being that today is Good Friday And we're supposed to remember the sacrifice that was made for us, I find this statement very appropriate. I don't think it is just the sacrifice we are supposed to remember, but the anguish of being wrongly judged, then betrayed and forsaken by those who are closest to you. I don't care if other people don't like my comment. It's what I believe and I would never turn my back on someone because of what other people thought. Like Preacher said, you should treat a person by what's in their heart, nothing else.
good friday?
Folks, let's be real here. Organized religion is nothing more than clever marketing, incredible spin, outright lies and b.s. and predatory advertising. There never was a god, jesus or a holy whatever. So, please, can we can the god-bothering nonsense?
Remember

Mineville, NY

#18 Mar 30, 2013
Jackal wrote:
<quoted text>
good friday?
Folks, let's be real here. Organized religion is nothing more than clever marketing, incredible spin, outright lies and b.s. and predatory advertising. There never was a god, jesus or a holy whatever. So, please, can we can the god-bothering nonsense?
Actually, there are thousands of supporting historical documents that acknowledge Jesus's existence, BUT, I'm not talking about organized religion. I'm talking about the life lessons and the example set by someone who was trying to show us the truth. Jesus revolted against organized religion because of all the reasons you just stated. He was trying to teach people to think for themselves and to believe in the true nature of the creative energy of the universe. He was tortured and murdered BECAUSE of organized religion. Like I said, It's the example he set that's important. Most people don't understand this because the churches teach subservience to maintain control of the masses.
Terrible people

Torrance, CA

#19 Mar 30, 2013
Jackal wrote:
<quoted text>
good friday?
Folks, let's be real here. Organized religion is nothing more than clever marketing, incredible spin, outright lies and b.s. and predatory advertising. There never was a god, jesus or a holy whatever. So, please, can we can the god-bothering nonsense?
Why would you attack someone else's beliefs? I've been following this post because I have a friend who was wrongfully labeled and has been treated very badly by people in this town. Maybe you're one of them. If you and half the people in this town would have the heart enough to stand by someone when they get labeled and treated like garbage you might be worth something. But until then, Just keep telling yourself that what your doing is ok because it's the status quo. JUSTFY IT, RATIONALIZE IT, MAKE IT RIGHT IN YOUR OWN SAD, SICK, LITTLE MINDS. This town is full of weak, small minded, people who can't think for themselves so they get their thrills by mistreating each other. You should all be so proud. What a wonderful community you've built here.
sad but true

Mineville, NY

#20 Mar 30, 2013
Terrible people wrote:
<quoted text> Why would you attack someone else's beliefs? I've been following this post because I have a friend who was wrongfully labeled and has been treated very badly by people in this town. Maybe you're one of them. If you and half the people in this town would have the heart enough to stand by someone when they get labeled and treated like garbage you might be worth something. But until then, Just keep telling yourself that what your doing is ok because it's the status quo. JUSTFY IT, RATIONALIZE IT, MAKE IT RIGHT IN YOUR OWN SAD, SICK, LITTLE MINDS. This town is full of weak, small minded, people who can't think for themselves so they get their thrills by mistreating each other. You should all be so proud. What a wonderful community you've built here.
So glad to hear someone else who can see how shallow and petty people are here. This goes way beyond small town mentality, I've lived here most of my life, but travelled quite a bit, and I've never seen anyplace like this. There ARE some good people here, but they basically don't get involved with any body else's business. Years ago,( I won't say how many ) The town seemed a lot friendlier and people in the community stood by each other. Now it's like people just don't care about each other. Like Preacher said, they'd rather throw stones with everyone else or turn away from people than do the right thing. Sad but true.
huh

Crown Point, NY

#21 Mar 30, 2013
What town are we talking about anyway ?

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