Area gun sales, fears rising

Nov 14, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: North Port Sun

Gun stores in Charlotte County have experienced increased sales since Election Day as local gun owners brace for an anticipated restriction of gun laws following the re-election of President Barack Obama.

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While it is fair to say that a handful of Republicans took leading roles in the civil rights measures of 1964, even though they had far fewer seats, and thus less power, at the time. The GOP, in general, never warmed up to civil rights, the large Republican vote totals for the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act were not replicated in other key civil rights battles, such as an earlier one relating to fair employment practices in 1949 and 1950 and a subsequent one on fair housing in 1966.
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While it is fair to say that a handful of Republicans took leading roles in the civil rights measures of 1964, even though they had far fewer seats, and thus less power, at the time. The GOP, in general, never warmed up to civil rights, the large Republican vote totals for the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act were not replicated in other key civil rights battles, such as an earlier one relating to fair employment practices in 1949 and 1950 and a subsequent one on fair housing in 1966.
And how did that fair housing thing turn out? I mean, people not having the ability to sell or rent their property to who they believe is acceptable? It destroyed countless neighborhoods.

I'm a landlord and trust me, I'm disabled from renting to a suspicious person if they qualify for an apartment. I know they are going to be trouble. I can tell by the way they talk, their attitude, their inability to keep their kids under control. Yet, even if I know they are going to be a problem, by law, I have to rent to them.

Of course, because I'm white, I can refuse a white applicant for the same reasons I listed above. But you can't do that with minorities.

The housing crash did the same thing really. Home owners knew they were selling their homes to problem minorities, yet, there was little they could do about it. If they could come up with the home loan, you have to sell your house to them regardless of your concerns.

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Agreed, everyone does go off topic.
I responded to your whine “The POINT of this discussion is GUNS, so, while you're ranting about other subjects”
So, am I correct you believe it’s fine for you to go off topic but not others?
Prayer in one hand and a turd in the other. Which hand holds more weight?
I went back and checked the posts and here’s what happened. I answered the questions, then posted a link about guns. You then criticized me for not answering the questions, etc.
So, here’s what I posted earlier:

“Bible Belt Southerners are so Godless that they follow ministers who tell them that:
God has suddenly become interested in politics for the first time in all these thousands of years,
and THAT GOD IS A REPUBLICAN,
and that He will destroy the USA unless people vote Republican,
BUT that God LOOKS THE OTHER WAY AT THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE MURDERED by the REPUBLICAN INVASION OF IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, ETC.(because Bush knew that absolutely none of those women were carrying unborn babies DUH and even if they were, those people are subhuman because they‘re not Southern Caucasians),
and that Bush Jr. was God‘s choice when he LIED about going to war (Satan is the Father of Lies according to the REAL BIBLE),
and that Bush Daddy was God‘s choice when he promoted the New World Order (the one-world government that will be Satan‘s when he rules in the Great Tribulation),
and that Reagan was God’s choice when he committed so many acts of treason and other crimes,
and on and on, decade after decade.
The REALITY is that God is not involved in corrupt politics, and liberals are more Godly because they know it’s absolutely satanic to manipulate God for money and power.
Southern morons are so devoted to their stupidity, fantasy world, and a god created in their own image, that they should never be telling anybody anything.”

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^This^ is a PEFECT example of the cradle-to-grave mentality that has INFECTED the Democratic party.
It is NOT the govt's responsibility to provide for your every want and need (safety, food, shelter, etc.). That is YOUR responsibility. As the saying goes....give a man a fish and you will feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you will feed him for a lifetime. Get off your lazy ass and go fishing.
You’re a subhuman parasite, too hopeless to learn anything.

People:
1. Simple-minded morons, like this one, only know how to parrot stupid fishing quotes, but intelligent liberals know that conservative leaders, who make up stupid statements like that, are really the parasites who are poisoning the lakes, and all of planet earth, for MONEY, MONEY, MONEY.
They’re the scum to give our jobs to other nations and yet Republican voters are so moronic they repeat that brain-dead statement over and over and over. Why don’t they make up statements telling people to learn how to build their own steel plants, etc.? That would make more sense, but not to conservative morons.

2. There’s another issue here, and one which all career criminals hate: ACCOUNTABILITY.
That includes everything from prosecuting the Republican Elite for treason and warmongering, to forcing the Republican Party to pay for their crimes against our country and people.

3. This poster sounds just like all the other idiots in another way. You never hear them complaining about corporate welfare, or all their taxes going to pay for wars and corruption, but are furious that taxpayer money should be used to help taxpayers, regardless of whether they’re still paying taxes or whether they’re the new victims of Republican evil, money-worshipping greed.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

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You’re a subhuman parasite, too hopeless to learn anything.
People:
1. Simple-minded morons, like this one, only know how to parrot stupid fishing quotes, but intelligent liberals know that conservative leaders, who make up stupid statements like that, are really the parasites who are poisoning the lakes, and all of planet earth, for MONEY, MONEY, MONEY.
They’re the scum to give our jobs to other nations and yet Republican voters are so moronic they repeat that brain-dead statement over and over and over. Why don’t they make up statements telling people to learn how to build their own steel plants, etc.? That would make more sense, but not to conservative morons.
2. There’s another issue here, and one which all career criminals hate: ACCOUNTABILITY.
That includes everything from prosecuting the Republican Elite for treason and warmongering, to forcing the Republican Party to pay for their crimes against our country and people.
3. This poster sounds just like all the other idiots in another way. You never hear them complaining about corporate welfare, or all their taxes going to pay for wars and corruption, but are furious that taxpayer money should be used to help taxpayers, regardless of whether they’re still paying taxes or whether they’re the new victims of Republican evil, money-worshipping greed.
You didn't just drink the libtard Kool-Aid...you are mainlining that shit.

1. The parasites are the ones standing in line for their "Obama bucks" and "Obama phones". The ones getting their kids social security benefits because they have ADD/ADHD (who a huge percentage of don't have attention deficit...they are a DISCIPLINE problem). The ones getting full SSI disability because they are alcoholics or habitual drug users. Or those who feign illness just because they are too f**king lazy to go out and work. The OWS movement who demand free college education, free contraception, etc. THEY are the parasites.

AS far jobs sent out of the country, I do believe it was Slick Willie Clintoon who signed NAFTA into law. It was the trade unions with their exorbitant wage and pensions demands that have shut down their plants and forced the companies to move them overseas for cheaper labor. Prime example....the Norfolk Ford Truck Assembly Plant stood strong for over 80 years. When they shut the plant down, an assembly line worker installing sun visors (not a very labor intensive job, or one that took hardly any training) was making close to $30/hour. Were is it now......Mexico. And we HAD our own steel plants....for decades They too have gone overseas for the same reasons. The Bethlehem Steel Plant (PA) is now the Sands Hotel and Casino.

2. And you want to talk about Republican treason, yet you fail to give any examples of such. How about these......Clinton selling our nuclear secrets to China. Obama selling jet fighters and giving financial support, to the tune of BILLIONS of dollars, to the Muslim Brotherhood who now controls Egypt. THAT is called "aiding and abetting the enemy"....you know...actual TREASON.

3. You want to say that the republicans are warmongering, yet Obama and his lackies not only continued the Bush military doctrine.....they ramped it up. And sorry, but the old elementary school playground excuse of "yeah, but he did it too" just ain't cutting it. At one point in Obama's first term, we were involved in conflicts in SIX different middle eastern countries at once. How many innocent people have been killed by Obama's drone program, including targeting American citizens without due process?? You can take your claims of republican warmongering and shove them straight from whence they came...straight up your ass.

Keep shooting up that Obama Kool-aid.

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Protester wrote:
<quoted text>YouÂ’re a subhuman parasite, too hopeless to learn anything.

People:
1. Simple-minded morons, like this one, only know how to parrot stupid fishing quotes, but intelligent liberals know that conservative leaders, who make up stupid statements like that, are really the parasites who are poisoning the lakes, and all of planet earth, for MONEY, MONEY, MONEY.
TheyÂ’re the scum to give our jobs to other nations and yet Republican voters are so moronic they repeat that brain-dead statement over and over and over. Why donÂ’t they make up statements telling people to learn how to build their own steel plants, etc.? That would make more sense, but not to conservative morons.

2. ThereÂ’s another issue here, and one which all career criminals hate: ACCOUNTABILITY.
That includes everything from prosecuting the Republican Elite for treason and warmongering, to forcing the Republican Party to pay for their crimes against our country and people.

3. This poster sounds just like all the other idiots in another way. You never hear them complaining about corporate welfare, or all their taxes going to pay for wars and corruption, but are furious that taxpayer money should be used to help taxpayers, regardless of whether theyÂ’re still paying taxes or whether theyÂ’re the new victims of Republican evil, money-worshipping greed.
Propaganda.
Socialists and Communists can't operate without it.
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xxxrayted wrote:
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And how did that fair housing thing turn out? I mean, people not having the ability to sell or rent their property to who they believe is acceptable? It destroyed countless neighborhoods.
I'm a landlord and trust me, I'm disabled from renting to a suspicious person if they qualify for an apartment. I know they are going to be trouble. I can tell by the way they talk, their attitude, their inability to keep their kids under control. Yet, even if I know they are going to be a problem, by law, I have to rent to them.
Of course, because I'm white, I can refuse a white applicant for the same reasons I listed above. But you can't do that with minorities.
The housing crash did the same thing really. Home owners knew they were selling their homes to problem minorities, yet, there was little they could do about it. If they could come up with the home loan, you have to sell your house to them regardless of your concerns.
If you can't handle being slum-lord stay out ...
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You didn't just drink the libtard Kool-Aid...you are mainlining that shit.
1. The parasites are the ones standing in line for their "Obama bucks" and "Obama phones". The ones getting their kids social security benefits because they have ADD/ADHD (who a huge percentage of don't have attention deficit...they are a DISCIPLINE problem). The ones getting full SSI disability because they are alcoholics or habitual drug users. Or those who feign illness just because they are too f**king lazy to go out and work. The OWS movement who demand free college education, free contraception, etc. THEY are the parasites.
AS far jobs sent out of the country, I do believe it was Slick Willie Clintoon who signed NAFTA into law. It was the trade unions with their exorbitant wage and pensions demands that have shut down their plants and forced the companies to move them overseas for cheaper labor. Prime example....the Norfolk Ford Truck Assembly Plant stood strong for over 80 years. When they shut the plant down, an assembly line worker installing sun visors (not a very labor intensive job, or one that took hardly any training) was making close to $30/hour. Were is it now......Mexico. And we HAD our own steel plants....for decades They too have gone overseas for the same reasons. The Bethlehem Steel Plant (PA) is now the Sands Hotel and Casino.
2. And you want to talk about Republican treason, yet you fail to give any examples of such. How about these......Clinton selling our nuclear secrets to China. Obama selling jet fighters and giving financial support, to the tune of BILLIONS of dollars, to the Muslim Brotherhood who now controls Egypt. THAT is called "aiding and abetting the enemy"....you know...actual TREASON.
3. You want to say that the republicans are warmongering, yet Obama and his lackies not only continued the Bush military doctrine.....they ramped it up. And sorry, but the old elementary school playground excuse of "yeah, but he did it too" just ain't cutting it. At one point in Obama's first term, we were involved in conflicts in SIX different middle eastern countries at once. How many innocent people have been killed by Obama's drone program, including targeting American citizens without due process?? You can take your claims of republican warmongering and shove them straight from whence they came...straight up your ass.
Keep shooting up that Obama Kool-aid.
It’s a republican administration that created the bloody mess! Stop paying for Iraq’s reconstruction and start collecting Iraq’s oil revenue to pay for the war – as so grandiosely promised and predicted by Gdub Bush and his merry men of liars and criminals. Not only did they lie about the WMDs but also about the (none) existing oil infrastructure in Iraq that was going to pay for it all.

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<quoted text>It’s a republican administration that created the bloody mess! Stop paying for Iraq’s reconstruction and start collecting Iraq’s oil revenue to pay for the war – as so grandiosely promised and predicted by Gdub Bush and his merry men of liars and criminals. Not only did they lie about the WMDs but also about the (none) existing oil infrastructure in Iraq that was going to pay for it all.
Nice deflection.
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Ever wonder why the wealthy are exempt from social security? Contrary to what GOPers want you to believe social security does not contribute to the national debt – period!
Here’s the reality:
No matter what, even if no financing changes are made, Social Security can pay 100% of anticipated benefits out through 2037. Even after that, if no changes are made, enough money will still be coming in to pay about 75% of anticipated benefits for roughly 50 more years after 2037.(We can’t speak to what will happen after that because the Social Security actuaries only look 75 years into the future when they make estimates.) The total amount of wages that are subject to Social Security tax (also known as the “wage pool”) does not equal 100% of the total amount of wages paid to workers in the United States.
That’s because income above a certain amount (at the moment,$106,800) is exempt from Social Security taxes. During the 1980s and early 1990s, the wage pool represented about 90% of all wages ... but because wage income has become more and more concentrated in the hands of the highest wage earners, 15 years later the wage pool now represents only about 83% of all wages. In fact: due to high levels of earnings inequality, roughly 1% of the population earn 10% of all the earnings.
Removing that $106,800 cap and making all wage income taxable for Social Security purposes, all by itself, will either solve the funding problem entirely or get you to 99% of where you need to be. Would you prefer that Social Security benefits be cut, now and in the future, or would you prefer to see the wealthiest among us pay their fair share of Social Security taxes, just as every other wage earner does—and cut the tax rate, both at the same time?

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Checked the area gun stores. Ammo still stocked out, firearm inventory very low. Thousands of pistols are unable to be sold in NY now, sue to the "SAFE" law. Majority of counties officially oppose the law. Many sheriffs oppose the law and will not enforce it, the law endangers officers and makes criminals of law abiding citizens. Some businesses are considering moving out. Some businesses will no longer do business with NY state, police etc. due to the law. Nice job Cuomo, you are becoming a very unpopular dictator.

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ONCE AGAIN, COMMON SENSE RULES THE DAY IN CHICAGO...

THE MORE INNOCENT CITIZENS IN CHICAGO WHO ARE KILLED BY GANGS...THE MORE WE SHOULD CONSIDER DISARMING THE INNOCENT CITIZENS. Makes perfect sense...doesn't it?

Chicago Gang Members Shoot 6-Month-Old Baby… City Responds By Considering More Gun Control Laws…

City Council will consider stricter gun laws in Chicago on Wednesday, one day after a 6-month-old baby girl was shot five times while her father changed her diaper – she did not survive.

Jonylah Watkins’ father, Jonathan, was changing her in their parked minivan near 65th and Maryland on Monday afternoon. He was also shot multiple times.

Chicago Police Supt. Garry McCarthy said in a press conference Tuesday that Jonathan Watkins is most likely the intended target. McCarthy acknowledged the father has an extensive criminal history, and a police source said Watkins has more than 30 prior arrests.

Police sources told FOX 32 News that he also has gang ties. They have stepped up presence in Woodlawn, in case of retaliation.

Community leader Pastor Corey Brooks spoke on behalf of the baby’s mother and family outside the hospital Tuesday, and initially offered a reward of $5,000 for information leading to an arrest. That amount has since gone up to $15,000 thanks to other contributions.
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Checked the area gun stores. Ammo still stocked out, firearm inventory very low. Thousands of pistols are unable to be sold in NY now, sue to the "SAFE" law. Majority of counties officially oppose the law. Many sheriffs oppose the law and will not enforce it, the law endangers officers and makes criminals of law abiding citizens. Some businesses are considering moving out. Some businesses will no longer do business with NY state, police etc. due to the law. Nice job Cuomo, you are becoming a very unpopular dictator.
Thank Gawd the tide is turning against the psycho-gun-a-holics ...
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ONCE AGAIN, COMMON SENSE RULES THE DAY IN CHICAGO...
THE MORE INNOCENT CITIZENS IN CHICAGO WHO ARE KILLED BY GANGS...THE MORE WE SHOULD CONSIDER DISARMING THE INNOCENT CITIZENS. Makes perfect sense...doesn't it?
Chicago Gang Members Shoot 6-Month-Old Baby… City Responds By Considering More Gun Control Laws…
City Council will consider stricter gun laws in Chicago on Wednesday, one day after a 6-month-old baby girl was shot five times while her father changed her diaper – she did not survive.
Jonylah Watkins’ father, Jonathan, was changing her in their parked minivan near 65th and Maryland on Monday afternoon. He was also shot multiple times.
Chicago Police Supt. Garry McCarthy said in a press conference Tuesday that Jonathan Watkins is most likely the intended target. McCarthy acknowledged the father has an extensive criminal history, and a police source said Watkins has more than 30 prior arrests.
Police sources told FOX 32 News that he also has gang ties. They have stepped up presence in Woodlawn, in case of retaliation.
Community leader Pastor Corey Brooks spoke on behalf of the baby’s mother and family outside the hospital Tuesday, and initially offered a reward of $5,000 for information leading to an arrest. That amount has since gone up to $15,000 thanks to other contributions.
Hey psycho idiot - no is is disarming anyone get a life ...
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Spocko wrote:
Ever wonder why the wealthy are exempt from social security? Contrary to what GOPers want you to believe social security does not contribute to the national debt – period!
Here’s the reality:
No matter what, even if no financing changes are made, Social Security can pay 100% of anticipated benefits out through 2037. Even after that, if no changes are made, enough money will still be coming in to pay about 75% of anticipated benefits for roughly 50 more years after 2037.(We can’t speak to what will happen after that because the Social Security actuaries only look 75 years into the future when they make estimates.) The total amount of wages that are subject to Social Security tax (also known as the “wage pool”) does not equal 100% of the total amount of wages paid to workers in the United States.
That’s because income above a certain amount (at the moment,$106,800) is exempt from Social Security taxes. During the 1980s and early 1990s, the wage pool represented about 90% of all wages ... but because wage income has become more and more concentrated in the hands of the highest wage earners, 15 years later the wage pool now represents only about 83% of all wages. In fact: due to high levels of earnings inequality, roughly 1% of the population earn 10% of all the earnings.
Removing that $106,800 cap and making all wage income taxable for Social Security purposes, all by itself, will either solve the funding problem entirely or get you to 99% of where you need to be. Would you prefer that Social Security benefits be cut, now and in the future, or would you prefer to see the wealthiest among us pay their fair share of Social Security taxes, just as every other wage earner does—and cut the tax rate, both at the same time?
Social security payouts are based on what you and your employer put in. So if we eliminate the debt ceiling on SS contributions, then it's only fair those people who paid more get more back, and then we're right back to square one.

Currently, SS is paying out more than they are taking in. It's going broke. Even Democrats are worried about it considering an increase in age requirements.

Why is it rare insurance companies go out of business or bankrupt? It's because they increase fees according to cost. If the working people want SS, then they should increase the SS contributions. That's all. But of course, that would leave people with much less pay, and then perhaps they would wake up and find what a Ponzi scheme SS always was.

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You didn't just drink the libtard Kool-Aid...you are mainlining that shit.
1. The parasites are the ones standing in line for their "Obama bucks" and "Obama phones". The ones getting their kids social security benefits because they have ADD/ADHD (who a huge percentage of don't have attention deficit...they are a DISCIPLINE problem). The ones getting full SSI disability because they are alcoholics or habitual drug users. Or those who feign illness just because they are too f**king lazy to go out and work. The OWS movement who demand free college education, free contraception, etc. THEY are the parasites.
AS far jobs sent out of the country, I do believe it was Slick Willie Clintoon who signed NAFTA into law. It was the trade unions with their exorbitant wage and pensions demands that have shut down their plants and forced the companies to move them overseas for cheaper labor. Prime example....the Norfolk Ford Truck Assembly Plant stood strong for over 80 years. When they shut the plant down, an assembly line worker installing sun visors (not a very labor intensive job, or one that took hardly any training) was making close to $30/hour. Were is it now......Mexico. And we HAD our own steel plants....for decades They too have gone overseas for the same reasons. The Bethlehem Steel Plant (PA) is now the Sands Hotel and Casino.
2. And you want to talk about Republican treason, yet you fail to give any examples of such. How about these......Clinton selling our nuclear secrets to China. Obama selling jet fighters and giving financial support, to the tune of BILLIONS of dollars, to the Muslim Brotherhood who now controls Egypt. THAT is called "aiding and abetting the enemy"....you know...actual TREASON.
3. You want to say that the republicans are warmongering, yet Obama and his lackies not only continued the Bush military doctrine.....they ramped it up. And sorry, but the old elementary school playground excuse of "yeah, but he did it too" just ain't cutting it. At one point in Obama's first term, we were involved in conflicts in SIX different middle eastern countries at once. How many innocent people have been killed by Obama's drone program, including targeting American citizens without due process?? You can take your claims of republican warmongering and shove them straight from whence they came...straight up your ass.
Keep shooting up that Obama Kool-aid.
Excellent post.

100 % correct and just what the liberals don't want to face .... Facts !

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<quoted text>Excellent post.
100 % correct and just what the liberals don't want to face .... Facts !
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Why do we need to help feed so many people? They can get a job.
Here’s ANOTHER conservative FREELOADER who expects us to spend our time, having to try and educate these village idiots. They all think we OWE IT TO THEM to let them sit on their dead azzes, too LAZY to look for information themselves, so we‘re supposed to be the political welfare dept.
We‘re also supposed to feel obligated to answer because their statements are demonic, we‘re supposed to feel obligated to FEED THEM information for FREE.
NO, we owe them NOTHING, and that’s what they deserve.

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Lmao! Apparently in your eyes, the Democrats playing Robin Hood makes them your saving Heroes. In reality, they are the equivalent of social drug dealers, getting you hooked on free goodies so that you eventually need them to survive or get buy.
Borrowing your phrase,"it's simple-minded idiots who miss that."
Robin Hood is a hero to people who aren’t mentally ill, or have criminal mentalities. If you’re not institutionalized in one of those places, then you should be.
People: Those sickos are so hooked on greed and are overgrown children, going through life screaming,‘ME-ME-ME!’, and ‘NOBODY matters except ME-ME!’
They’re so emotionally retarded they are hopeless, so keep them out of your life.

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Gun Shop Owner Says Mark Kelly Has Not Completed Background Check For AR-15
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