3 teens charged in Mexican's beating death

Jul 26, 2008 Full story: The Morning Call 302

The six teens happened upon Luis Ramirez after spending the night of July 12 drinking in the woods and going to a block party.

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Mozart

Hollywood, FL

#1 Jul 28, 2008
USA doesn't need any more illegals. Don't murder them. Just deport them all before its too late !!!
its getting old

Mertztown, PA

#2 Aug 26, 2008
People need to get there head out of there asses. These kids would've done it to ANYONE. Their choice of target although, makes them look like super heros. Illegal or not, you 3 teens are chumps. I hope you would get jumped by a bunch of people just cause they felt drunk and tough. And as for the illegal Mexican... how was he here for 6 years, did he work somewhere legally? The government messes up, its not these kids job to clean it.
AnalyzingDFacts

Philadelphia, PA

#4 Sep 4, 2008
I say blame this "death" on the Mayor. He's the one that started all this nonesense.

The Mayor should be the one sent to jail.

“rockin pandas”

Since: Mar 07

Whitehall

#8 Sep 4, 2008
Allentown is a little punk town. Try going to Philly or Newark. Allentown is just a slum it isn't big and bad just dirty
Bottom Line wrote:
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Killing lunatics like yourself is what should be incouraged so why don't you come to Allentown, pa and let this patriot do nothing wrong. The only support those little thugs are going to get will be by their boyfriends in jail.
hmm

Tallahassee, FL

#9 Sep 4, 2008
NationalAlliance wrote:
These kids were doing a service! This man wasn't even legal! I hope their is alot of support for these young patriots, they did nothing wrong. Killing illegal invaders should be encouraged, not punished
So because the kid was an Alien, it means his rights as a human are revoked. That racists, like these kids, can kill them and be honored for it? You are a very insecure person and are living a life of no responsibility. You need to evaluate your morals and realize we are all the same. We all breath, and we all share this world. Stop pretending that you have some sacred right to be the only people in this land. As nature goes, we stole this land from someone, and in turn someone will take this land from us. Accept it and evolve, you neocon tool.
DinTN

Westmoreland, TN

#11 Sep 9, 2008
Since none of us were there that night....
Just wait until the trial(s) begin and the truth comes out. I believe we're going to find out some dirty little secrets about Crystal Dillman. She's hiding something, I'll guarantee it.
Gut feeling. Something's just not quite right about her.

I'm anxious to hear her little sisters account of what happened that night. Why did she and Ramirez insist the other couple drop them off so they could walk the rest of the way, instead of the original plan to take them home?
Feng

Phillipsburg, NJ

#13 Sep 9, 2008
The drug and pedophilia angle on this stroy has yet to be brought out. We will see if all the facts about the alien, his fetish and the 14 year old are explored to see if there is anything to all of this.
A Realistic View

United States

#14 Sep 9, 2008
NationalAlliance wrote:
These kids were doing a service! This man wasn't even legal! I hope their is alot of support for these young patriots, they did nothing wrong. Killing illegal invaders should be encouraged, not punished
These kids are not patriots they are murders. Illegal or not he was a person and didnít deserve what happened to him. How would you feel if someone you loved was beaten to death just because he wasnít from that country?
freedom now

Tustin, CA

#15 Sep 9, 2008
Abraham Lincoln liked to place this hypothetical before audiences: if you call a dogís tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have.ĎFive,í his listeners would invariably respond. No. Calling a dogís tail a leg doesnít make it so, Lincoln would retort. A dog has four legs. President 43 would be wise to brush up on President 16. No matter how many times President Bush says his amnesty program isnít amnesty, itís still amnesty. Rewarding lawbreakers with citizenship is actually worse than amnesty. Not only does it absolve the criminal of the crime, but it awards a bonus Ė citizenship Ė to the criminal that he would not have received had he obeyed the law and waited in line." Source: Dan Flynn, www.flynnfiles.com , 5/16/06
Linda

Sussex, WI

#16 Sep 9, 2008
NationalAlliance wrote:
These kids were doing a service! This man wasn't even legal! I hope their is alot of support for these young patriots, they did nothing wrong. Killing illegal invaders should be encouraged, not punished
I thought you were dead Hitler!! You should be ashamed of yourself for even thinking like this you piece of trash! It is people like you that have ruined this country and given America a bad name in the world. Grow up! It's 2008, not 1908 you idiot.
Stir it Up

United States

#17 Sep 9, 2008
BTW, guys, arguing here's all well and good, but if you want to tell those who can actually DO something, try www.numbersusa.org
That site is FREE to sign up, and lets you fax your Senators FREE from the site, with premade form-letters for or against new bills that have to do with amnesty and immigration, legal and illegal.
Who knows, we may yet get to end America's status as the ONLY First World nation WITHOUT an OFFICIAL language to bind us together.
Relying on existing law and de-facto status to keep America American doesn't seem to be working?
Dick

United States

#18 Sep 10, 2008
NationalAlliance wrote:
These kids were doing a service! This man wasn't even legal! I hope their is alot of support for these young patriots, they did nothing wrong. Killing illegal invaders should be encouraged, not punished
When it happens on a bigger scale, they will call it a revolution.
And don't kid yourself.
Its coming.
NationalAlliance

Hollywood, FL

#19 Sep 10, 2008
Dick wrote:
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When it happens on a bigger scale, they will call it a revolution.
And don't kid yourself.
Its coming.
I am ready for it,. I embrace it, I am armed and ready
NationalAlliance

Hollywood, FL

#20 Sep 10, 2008
A Realistic View wrote:
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These kids are not patriots they are murders. Illegal or not he was a person and didnít deserve what happened to him. How would you feel if someone you loved was beaten to death just because he wasnít from that country?
This wasn't a "peroson" it was an illegal invader
NationalAlliance

Hollywood, FL

#21 Sep 10, 2008
"person"
USA

Flint, MI

#22 Sep 10, 2008
Stir it Up wrote:
BTW, guys, arguing here's all well and good, but if you want to tell those who can actually DO something, try www.numbersusa.org
That site is FREE to sign up, and lets you fax your Senators FREE from the site, with premade form-letters for or against new bills that have to do with amnesty and immigration, legal and illegal.
Who knows, we may yet get to end America's status as the ONLY First World nation WITHOUT an OFFICIAL language to bind us together.
Relying on existing law and de-facto status to keep America American doesn't seem to be working?
Rubbish. Our neighbors up in Canada (a "first world" nation) have more than one official language. In fact there's whole parts of Canada where you'll see nothing but French instead of English. Amazing, no?
Stir it Up

United States

#23 Sep 10, 2008
USA wrote:
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Rubbish. Our neighbors up in Canada (a "first world" nation) have more than one official language. In fact there's whole parts of Canada where you'll see nothing but French instead of English. Amazing, no?
LOL, and there's whole parts of America where English language--and our very LAW--don't apply either.
HOWEVER, Canada has problems with the French part wanting to separate from the rest...And we have problems with the Spanish part thinking they're better than us...Oddly, they have to sneak into our country and steal from us to maintain that "better"-ness...
Remember, America's only responsibility is to Americans, not to ne'er-do-well foreign parasites.
Indeed, every parasite that sneaks through is one less spot for a USEFUL citizen, one who would become a PRODUCTIVE citizen--and by that, I mean producing something OTHER than more of itself.
YES, America has a long backlog of immigration applicants, but they have to run background checks on them, because it turns out some of them lie about their diseased status and/or their criminal history...Imagine that! HOWEVER, just because there's a long line for the most popular ride does NOT entitle them to skip the line and steal their way in. Otherwise, the people who wait in line are grand-scale CHUMPS!
But the ones who DO come in correctly, are better, and more likely to assimilate than the scum that sneak in and abruptly declare they don't want to assimilate, and that their culture is somehow "better", even though the cesspool that bred them is dying, and their overpopulation ruins the neighborhoods they infest...Funny how that could happen with such a "superior" culture.

And again, I challenge you, name a great Mexican scientist or hero who actually did something great FOR THE WORLD.
I nominate Cesar Chavez, who was illegal, but paradoxically, he and his followers stopped OTHER illegals, so that they could demand higher wages.
I wonder who told him that more illegals=lower wages for all, as some Americans haven't even been able to figure that out! Oddly, the sources I have say that his followers used FORCE to keep more illegals from invading...I'm sure they tried just telling them at first, but that didn't work.
Maybe we need to try force ourselves?
Sadly, after his death, illegals just STREAMED through like a tidal-wave of crime and disease, and wages keep dropping, although I am waiting for some of that "cheap" labor to LOWER the cost of food...Food costs here are nearly DOUBLE what they were 4 years ago, even though there's MILLIONS more illegal scum than there was before, so prices should be at an all-time low, right?
Or maybe the taxes are keeping the prices the same, someone's got to pay for the "free" medical care and "free" food and "free" education that is wasted on the illegals...

And again, the more illegals that pour in, the tighter they make the restrictions on LEGAL immigration, so that they can appear to be doing SOMEthing--and that means that more people will feel "justified" to sneak in!
Fernado

Enid, OK

#24 Sep 10, 2008
WOW! First off, Cesar Chavez was not illegal he was born in Yuma, Arizona. Also he was an activist who helped the working conditions of migrant farm workers both illegal and legal workers. Second there are several Mexican Scientist who did the world great. Jacob Bekenstein (a physicist), Miguel de Icaza (a computer programmer), Guillermo GonzŠlez Camarena (who is credited as one of the first inventors of the color television), Rodolfo Neri Vela(an astronaut), do you want me to go on? What you are doing is just blaming the bad economy on illegals.
Vassar Clements

Hartford, CT

#25 Sep 10, 2008
NationalAlliance wrote:
"person"
Just out of curiousity, as a member of the National Alliance, are you required to possess child pornography, or is it optional?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Alfred_Str...

Another question. Did you join the NA because you're a skinny loser? Or was it b/c you're too stupid to get a job and now you blame it on the ... wait, I forget, who do you idiots point to first?
blissfully sick

Philadelphia, PA

#26 Sep 10, 2008
fatboy2 wrote:
Allentown is a little punk town. Try going to Philly or Newark. Allentown is just a slum it isn't big and bad just dirty
<quoted text>
and yet you dont go to allentown? take him up on his offer. your hardcore right so man up.

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