Why Would a Teen Murder Her Newborn?

Jan 20, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Free Republic

A teenage girl is being held in Port Angeles, Washington, for the murder of her newborn baby boy.

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Jan 20, 2009
 
I guess this is more humane than an abortion, huh? Ban abortion and this will happen so often, it wont even make the news!

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Jan 22, 2009
 
God only knows what was going through this kids head. Why she didn't get an abortion I don't know, parental consent is not required in WA. The cost for a first trimester abortion is 500 to 1000 dollars. Did the parents know? Finances? Would they not allow an abortion if they did know? The nearest facility is 106 miles away in Tacoma. This story will be one to follow to find out the details.

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Jan 22, 2009
 
flopears123 wrote:
God only knows what was going through this kids head. Why she didn't get an abortion I don't know, parental consent is not required in WA. The cost for a first trimester abortion is 500 to 1000 dollars. Did the parents know? Finances? Would they not allow an abortion if they did know? The nearest facility is 106 miles away in Tacoma. This story will be one to follow to find out the details.
Poor baby. It shows the depths to which a woman/girl will go when she does *not want* to have a baby. Regardless of the legality of abortion. I wonder if she is a product of abstinence only education.

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Jan 22, 2009
 
lalalulu wrote:
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Poor baby. It shows the depths to which a woman/girl will go when she does *not want* to have a baby. Regardless of the legality of abortion. I wonder if she is a product of abstinence only education.
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Don't know Lu. The article doesn't mention her school but from what I've read so far sex ed is optional and the guidelines are voluntary. Here are the guidelines and the reaction from abstinence only advocates.
Use medically and scientifically accurate, objective information;

Encourage communication between youth and parents;

Stress that abstinence is the "only certain way" to avoid pregnancy and reduce the risk of sexually transmitted diseases, including HIV/AIDS;

Provide accurate information about STDs and the effectiveness of FDA-approved STD prevention methods, as well as accurate information about the effectiveness and safety of FDA-approved contraceptive methods;

Encourage healthy, meaningful relationships; and

Promote healthy self-esteem, positive body image, self-care, respect and responsibility among all youth ("Guidelines for Sexual Health Information and Disease Prevention," 1/13).

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Some lawmakers and abstinence education advocates have criticized the new guidelines, saying that they give only "lip service" to abstinence, the Times reports. "The guidelines say that abstinence is the only sure way to prevent pregnancy and [STDs], but the rest of the guidelines focus on everything but abstinence," state Sen. Val Stevens (R) said, adding that the guidelines include no references to monogamous marital relationships (Seattle Times, 1/14). Jeff Kemp, president of Families Northwest -- which supports "strong, relationship-based abstinence programs that speak to the importance and role of marriage" -- agreed, saying, "One word is glaringly absent, and that word is 'marriage.'" He added, "I think it's shortsighted to talk so much about sex without marriage being front and center"
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Jan 22, 2009
 
flopears123 wrote:
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Don't know Lu. The article doesn't mention her school but from what I've read so far sex ed is optional and the guidelines are voluntary. Here are the guidelines and the reaction from abstinence only advocates.
Use medically and scientifically accurate, objective information;
Encourage communication between youth and parents;
Stress that abstinence is the "only certain way" to avoid pregnancy and reduce the risk of sexually transmitted diseases, including HIV/AIDS;
Provide accurate information about STDs and the effectiveness of FDA-approved STD prevention methods, as well as accurate information about the effectiveness and safety of FDA-approved contraceptive methods;
Encourage healthy, meaningful relationships; and
Promote healthy self-esteem, positive body image, self-care, respect and responsibility among all youth ("Guidelines for Sexual Health Information and Disease Prevention," 1/13).
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Some lawmakers and abstinence education advocates have criticized the new guidelines, saying that they give only "lip service" to abstinence, the Times reports. "The guidelines say that abstinence is the only sure way to prevent pregnancy and [STDs], but the rest of the guidelines focus on everything but abstinence," state Sen. Val Stevens (R) said, adding that the guidelines include no references to monogamous marital relationships (Seattle Times, 1/14). Jeff Kemp, president of Families Northwest -- which supports "strong, relationship-based abstinence programs that speak to the importance and role of marriage" -- agreed, saying, "One word is glaringly absent, and that word is 'marriage.'" He added, "I think it's shortsighted to talk so much about sex without marriage being front and center"
http://www.kaisernetwork.org/daily_reports/re...
Interesting. Thanks, flop.

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Jan 22, 2009
 
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Interesting. Thanks, flop.
I don't understand the big deal with the "marriage" word not being included. Teens are under enough pressure at the time and should be encouraged to work hard and get into higher learning institution before the marriage institution.

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Jan 22, 2009
 
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I don't understand the big deal with the "marriage" word not being included. Teens are under enough pressure at the time and should be encouraged to work hard and get into higher learning institution before the marriage institution.
Seriously. This isn't the middle ages. Why in G-d's name would we want our kids to get married at 15-16??? That's a surefire way to underachievement!

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Jan 26, 2009
 
Why would this girl do such a thing? The answer is probably rooted in dysfunctional beliefs as a result of a disastrous upbringing. Let's face it, she's not normal, and where does that come from? Most times that comes right from a person's childhood, and what her parents instilled in her and taught her. Drugs and alcohol can do very bad things to people. May God have mercy on this girl's soul.

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Jan 28, 2009
 
Chuck Marunde wrote:
Why would this girl do such a thing? The answer is probably rooted in dysfunctional beliefs as a result of a disastrous upbringing. Let's face it, she's not normal, and where does that come from? Most times that comes right from a person's childhood, and what her parents instilled in her and taught her. Drugs and alcohol can do very bad things to people. May God have mercy on this girl's soul.
I'd say the answer lies in an unwanted pregnancy and desperation not to be a mother. This girl should have had an abortion or gotten counciling for adoption, but she didn't for whatever reasons and for whatever reasons she did not want a baby. Pressure from parents, friends, society, we'll never know. She shouldn't have had sex is little beside the point now.
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Jan 30, 2009
 
flopears123 wrote:
God only knows what was going through this kids head. Why she didn't get an abortion I don't know, parental consent is not required in WA. The cost for a first trimester abortion is 500 to 1000 dollars. Did the parents know? Finances? Would they not allow an abortion if they did know? The nearest facility is 106 miles away in Tacoma. This story will be one to follow to find out the details.
A lot of teens simply don't know what their state's laws on parental consent are. And some may not know anyone reliable enough to ask without their parents being informed. IMO, this is exactly what happens when a girl or woman never wanted to be pregnant and really didn't know what her options were. My guess; she didn't know much, if anything, about preventing unwanted pregnancy either.
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Jan 30, 2009
 
Chuck Marunde wrote:
Why would this girl do such a thing? The answer is probably rooted in dysfunctional beliefs as a result of a disastrous upbringing. Let's face it, she's not normal, and where does that come from? Most times that comes right from a person's childhood, and what her parents instilled in her and taught her. Drugs and alcohol can do very bad things to people. May God have mercy on this girl's soul.
Extremist religious beliefs can also do very bad things to people, a factor which you conveniently OMITTED.

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Jan 30, 2009
 
Ocean56 wrote:
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A lot of teens simply don't know what their state's laws on parental consent are. And some may not know anyone reliable enough to ask without their parents being informed. IMO, this is exactly what happens when a girl or woman never wanted to be pregnant and really didn't know what her options were. My guess; she didn't know much, if anything, about preventing unwanted pregnancy either.
I agree, you're probably right. State laws should be discussed in sex ed, also programs that are available where a girl can drop off her baby without fear of prosecution for abandonment. Most likely, they don't know these things exist. Terribly sad that we are failing these kids like this.
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flopears123 wrote:
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I agree, you're probably right. State laws should be discussed in sex ed, also programs that are available where a girl can drop off her baby without fear of prosecution for abandonment. Most likely, they don't know these things exist. Terribly sad that we are failing these kids like this.
I agree. We certainly are failing them; first by not giving kids a decent sex education course in many of our public school systems, and secondly by not informing them of what they CAN do legally and safely if an unexpected (and usually unwanted) pregnancy does occur. A good sex education class can and should also include information about the state laws they need to know to help them make informed decisions.

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Feb 1, 2009
 
Ocean56, you are right that "extremist religious beliefs" can do bad things, but I didn't conveniently omit that. It just wasn't part of what I wrote. It sounds like you may have some experience with that. I can't relate. My parents were pretty plain folks. Good people. They weren't religious, though.

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