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Want2bInformed

Chesterfield, MO

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Jun 23, 2008
 
Can anyone tell me about the mansion before it was torn down to later become Mansion Mall.  I read a little bit about this on another post.  I'd love to know what it looked like, where to get pictures, anything at all. 

Since: May 08

Saint Louis, MO

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Jun 23, 2008
 
In the 70's it was a restaurant called A's Fishhouse.
Mountain Folk

Poplar Bluff, MO

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#3
Jun 23, 2008
 
I would like to hear stories of when an actual family lived there, and stories of when the house was built, were they rich, were they a happy family? I think that story would be more interesting.
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#4
Jun 23, 2008
 
It was owned by the Jeffries family, but I don't have any idea when it was built.
I lived in Bluff Estates back in the mid 60's and there was nothing but dense woods where the Mansion was situated, and the woods continued all the way up to Lurlyn Drive. You couldn't see the place behind the trees. It was a humongous, magnificent place.
If I had to guess, I'd say that it was the size of Hugh Hefners mansion in California, minus all the outdoor waterfalls and pools...It was a stone building with about 4-5 floors, if memory serves me correctly.
After they sold it to the developers of the mall, it was used as a nightclub with different music on like 3 of the floors. I don't EVER remember it being used as a restaurant.
That's all I know, but you could probably ask someone at the local library, or maybe someone else will come here and give more info.
Come on People

Chesterfield, MO

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#5
Jun 23, 2008
 
I am 20 years old and had no idea of this history. I would love to hear more about this. It is very interesting. Come on people, give up the information.

“Bringer of Light”

Since: Feb 08

Near Detroit, MI

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Jun 23, 2008
 

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They made a bunch of anal foot fisting movies in that building between 1955 and 1962. Ernest Borgnine lived there afterwords, and that's where he did all of his research which led up to his discovery of the milk carton.
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Chesterfield, MO

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#7
Jun 23, 2008
 
Temecula wrote:
They made a bunch of anal foot fisting movies in that building between 1955 and 1962. Ernest Borgnine lived there afterwords, and that's where he did all of his research which led up to his discovery of the milk carton.
Are you serious? Sounds like you are trying to ruin a perfectly good posting.
Unistuff2

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#8
Jun 23, 2008
 
It was a serious beautiful old home & a shame that they destroyed it. Brick & stone with huge magnificent wooden double doors,with front and side portico, leaded glass windows. The Jefferies family have possible moved on, or are all now deceased. I remember seeing Mrs. Jefferies who was in poor health escorted around town by her grandson years ago. The grandson would be in his mid 50's now. I'm not sure how I got the impression, but want to think the grandson was last of the Jefferies family. Once the shopping center was built--as previous post stated, the main floor was a fish house. The basement was a lounge & I don't remember if the upper stories were used. The fish house didn't last long & house remained empty for sometime, then torn down. I barely remember when they started clearing trees & dirt work on the center & the house was like a treasure found in the woods. The house became a great historical relic that was sacrificed to progress.
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#9
Jun 23, 2008
 
Temecula if you are not interested in the topic, move on.

“Bringer of Light”

Since: Feb 08

Near Detroit, MI

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#10
Jun 23, 2008
 
I'm quite interested in this topic, which is why i posted in it.

No amount of febreeze could have gotten the stink out of that place, which is why they had to level it.
Mullet

Chesterfield, MO

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#11
Jun 23, 2008
 
It was the mansion restaurant before it was the fish house, and had a under 21 club upstairs.
then it became the fish house, then they tore it down and built wendy's there, and it went out and because a chinese restaurant, then a car lot then they finally tore that down too
ozarkmountaindar edevil

Hamilton, AL

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#12
Jun 23, 2008
 
There was another house on the property, too. It was a large brick ranch style house on a concrete slab. Danny Hogg bought it-late 60's or early 70's, I think- and tried to move it, but I recall it was too heavy, and became mired in the mud every few feet. For a while it was called Hogg's Folly. Later, Doc Browning separated it into manageable sections and moved it out on W Hiway.
I am sure someone else's memory will be revived from this post. Anyone care ro elaborate?
Unistuff2

Chesterfield, MO

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#13
Jun 23, 2008
 
What interests you about the house? Your statement implies sinister goings on within the Jefferies family home. Were you there then? You obviously don't have any concern for preserving historical architecture or you would not feel the way you do. I have been in lots of homes years older than this one would be, and they don't stink

“Bringer of Light”

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Near Detroit, MI

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Jun 23, 2008
 

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What interests you about the house? Your statement implies sinister goings on within the Jefferies family home. Were you there then? You obviously don't have any concern for preserving historical architecture or you would not feel the way you do. I have been in lots of homes years older than this one would be, and they don't stink
Well if Ernest Borgnine holed up inside of a house for even a few summer months, you'd know it.
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#15
Jun 23, 2008
 
Temecula, why do you pull this crap?
You add constructive insight into some posts, then you post absolute crap about something you know NOTHING of......Give it a break, man!

As for the other house on the land where the mansion was, that was the home of J.B and Betty Jeffries. It was situated on land directly across from the V.A Hospital, a few hundred yards from the mansion
PB Mules

Poplar Bluff, MO

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#16
Jun 23, 2008
 
I sure Bill Hogg could answer any question you would have and enjoy doing. He is around 82-84 and sharp as a tack. He has tons of photos of PB from the tornado until present. He would be listed in the phone book. PB history is his passion.

“Bringer of Light”

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Near Detroit, MI

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Jun 24, 2008
 
Better answer wrote:
Temecula, why do you pull this crap?
You add constructive insight into some posts, then you post absolute crap about something you know NOTHING of......Give it a break, man!
As for the other house on the land where the mansion was, that was the home of J.B and Betty Jeffries. It was situated on land directly across from the V.A Hospital, a few hundred yards from the mansion
OMG are you gonna cry? Why don;t you learn a little something about the magnificent cultural icon Ernest Borgnine before you go talking shit. He invented the milk carton. He reduced infant mortality in sub saharan africa by 11.2 percent between 1977 and 1984. He was the real star of Airwolf. He can stink up a house with a quickness.
Unistuff2

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#18
Jun 24, 2008
 
The mansion originally belonged JB Jefferies parents. I do not know if JB & Betty ever lived in the mansion. Perhaps JB Jefferies was a junior, my information source was not sure. Mr. Jefferies Sr. was owner of Barnes Wholesale Groceries. I think is now MoArk Wholesale. I don't know if JB later become involved in the family business or not. All this information was related to me by 81 year old mother.
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#19
Jun 24, 2008
 
Mullet wrote:
It was the mansion restaurant before it was the fish house, and had a under 21 club upstairs.
then it became the fish house, then they tore it down and built wendy's there, and it went out and because a chinese restaurant, then a car lot then they finally tore that down too
If I remember right it wasn't Wendy's but Andy's... a Wendy's rip-off that was around this area in the early 80's. After it went out there was an assortment of eateries in the building after that. I vaguely remember the old house when we'd venture into the city to go to the Walmarts.
Unistuff2

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#20
Jun 24, 2008
 
One other interesting tidbit--There was another magnificent mansion secluded in the woods that was torn down. It was located somewhere around the property where Wal-Mart Superstore is now. Does anyone know the names or history on that house?

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