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Family

Poplar Bluff, MO

#1 Feb 11, 2012
The Principal at PBHS has taken it upon himself to "police" students and what they do after school hours an on their own time. A time when parents have the ultimate say in what their kids are allowed to do and not do.

I believe this is because he is of the strict Mormon Faith and for no other reason.

It is none of his business what my child does outside of school hours. If I want to allow my child to go to a dance, party, etc, and I feel it is safe, then that's what I will do.

If the principal EVER tries to discipline my child for something outside of school hours, I will file a lawsuit against the school district so fast it will make their head spin.
rewrite you statement

Van Nuys, CA

#2 Feb 11, 2012
Family wrote:
The Principal at PBHS has taken it upon himself to "police" students and what they do after school hours an on their own time. A time when parents have the ultimate say in what their kids are allowed to do and not do.
I believe this is because he is of the strict Mormon Faith and for no other reason.
It is none of his business what my child does outside of school hours. If I want to allow my child to go to a dance, party, etc, and I feel it is safe, then that's what I will do.
If the principal EVER tries to discipline my child for something outside of school hours, I will file a lawsuit against the school district so fast it will make their head spin.
You need to go back to school and learn how to write a decent statement. First, the man made a ruling dealing with the school.
Second he is not a Mormon. Third your threat to sue is silly. The man is not STUPID enough to make a decision like that. It would cause a lawsuit and cost him money. In short get your facts straight before your write.
Good For The Principal

Warrensburg, MO

#3 Feb 11, 2012
What a dumbass!
IF you're lucky enough to have ANY principal care enough to discipline your child, you should allow them to do just that..
Discipline is what makes a younger person a better contributor to society...NOT running wild in the streets...
Who are the best raised young people? Those with caring parents who don't allow their children to run with bad kids under limited supervision..I'm not saying that you do, but a caring school teacher or principal is NOT invading your childs personal life by adding discipline to it..
You mentioned allowing your child to go to a dance or party IF you believe it would be safe..How will you determine the safety of that environment?
The finest young people in this country I believe, are ones who avoid all the pitfalls of drinking, dope, and loose sex~ fueled by alcohol..The only way to avoid those pitfalls is by monitoring your kids throughout high school and then when they reach a more mature age(18+)letting them figure it out on their own THEN!
God knows there's enough losers in this world who went unsupervised as teenagers and ended up loving weed and beer, rather than a strong sense of responsibility and developing into a contributing member of society..
Sue someone for wanting to make your kid a better person? Oh hell yes, that makes perfect sense to me! LOL...
Rebel_Spy

Saint Louis, MO

#4 Feb 11, 2012
Family wrote:
The Principal at PBHS has taken it upon himself to "police" students and what they do after school hours an on their own time. A time when parents have the ultimate say in what their kids are allowed to do and not do.

I believe this is because he is of the strict Mormon Faith and for no other reason.

It is none of his business what my child does outside of school hours. If I want to allow my child to go to a dance, party, etc, and I feel it is safe, then that's what I will do.

If the principal EVER tries to discipline my child for something outside of school hours, I will file a lawsuit against the school district so fast it will make their head spin.
Good for you !
Let that principal know you heartily approve of any horny male grinding on your teen Skankzilla with her store bought fancy whoring dress! You made her even wash Daddy's love juices out of dirty mantrap before sending her to the off campus Pimps-n-Ho's prom.
How disappointed Skankzilla must have been when she didn't get roofied and videoed for YouTube pulling a train.
How dare any school official look out for poor parental judgement/waiting train wreck!!!
turd slinger

Poplar Bluff, MO

#5 Feb 11, 2012
Family wrote:
The Principal at PBHS has taken it upon himself to "police" students and what they do after school hours an on their own time. A time when parents have the ultimate say in what their kids are allowed to do and not do.

I believe this is because he is of the strict Mormon Faith and for no other reason.

It is none of his business what my child does outside of school hours. If I want to allow my child to go to a dance, party, etc, and I feel it is safe, then that's what I will do.

If the principal EVER tries to discipline my child for something outside of school hours, I will file a lawsuit against the school district so fast it will make their head spin.
Yep you are an idiot....it shows...stop listening to your little turd munchers.....
teacher

Poplar Bluff, MO

#6 Feb 11, 2012
maybe he be wantin to get on that himself mmmmm yaaaa
Guest

New Roads, LA

#7 Feb 11, 2012
Good For The Principal wrote:
What a dumbass!
IF you're lucky enough to have ANY principal care enough to discipline your child, you should allow them to do just that..
Discipline is what makes a younger person a better contributor to society...NOT running wild in the streets...
Who are the best raised young people? Those with caring parents who don't allow their children to run with bad kids under limited supervision..I'm not saying that you do, but a caring school teacher or principal is NOT invading your childs personal life by adding discipline to it..
You mentioned allowing your child to go to a dance or party IF you believe it would be safe..How will you determine the safety of that environment?
The finest young people in this country I believe, are ones who avoid all the pitfalls of drinking, dope, and loose sex~ fueled by alcohol..The only way to avoid those pitfalls is by monitoring your kids throughout high school and then when they reach a more mature age(18+)letting them figure it out on their own THEN!
God knows there's enough losers in this world who went unsupervised as teenagers and ended up loving weed and beer, rather than a strong sense of responsibility and developing into a contributing member of society..
Sue someone for wanting to make your kid a better person? Oh hell yes, that makes perfect sense to me! LOL...
You're missing the point. He has monitored multiple out of school occasions where he had no jurisdiction and no student committed a federal crime. I'm with this woman. The principal is a straight moron and control freak.
Good For The Principal

Warrensburg, MO

#8 Feb 11, 2012
Guest wrote:
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You're missing the point. He has monitored multiple out of school occasions where he had no jurisdiction and no student committed a federal crime. I'm with this woman. The principal is a straight moron and control freak.
Obviously YOU missed the point! Since when does supervision of any kind for young people need a jurisdiction? People who teach school or better yet, LEAD a school, are the best of supervisors for young people..
If no student committed a federal crime, isn't that a testimony of the principals watchful eye?
Young people have plenty of time to hang themselves when the principal isn't around. I say, let him watch your kids for as long as he'll put up with the little heathens..He MAY just save your kid from doing something they, and you, will regret...
what are you saying

Van Nuys, CA

#9 Feb 12, 2012
Guest wrote:
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You're missing the point. He has monitored multiple out of school occasions where he had no jurisdiction and no student committed a federal crime. I'm with this woman. The principal is a straight moron and control freak.
So as long as federal crimes are not broken then all is well. So if your kid goes to a party, gets drunk and kills somebody while driving that is ok, since no federal laws are broken. Rape is not a federal crime, as long as state lines aren't crossed, so that must be ok to you also. Guest, you have a warped sense of what is right and what is wrong. I suspect that if your child is ever the victim of a drunk driver or a rapist, you will be the first to stand and scream for justice. Remember, what a man sows that is what he reaps. You may call it karma or whatever but, it will come back to you.
Ted

Houston, TX

#10 Feb 12, 2012
Family wrote:
The Principal at PBHS has taken it upon himself to "police" students and what they do after school hours an on their own time. A time when parents have the ultimate say in what their kids are allowed to do and not do.
I believe this is because he is of the strict Mormon Faith and for no other reason.
It is none of his business what my child does outside of school hours. If I want to allow my child to go to a dance, party, etc, and I feel it is safe, then that's what I will do.
If the principal EVER tries to discipline my child for something outside of school hours, I will file a lawsuit against the school district so fast it will make their head spin.
You are an immature idiot. Sue him? Are you really that clueless?
wendy

Poplar Bluff, MO

#11 Feb 12, 2012
Guest wrote:
<quoted text>You're missing the point. He has monitored multiple out of school occasions where he had no jurisdiction and no student committed a federal crime. I'm with this woman. The principal is a straight moron and control freak.
Federal crime? Are you sure you are not an idiot... Butler co mental health will test you for free you know....
reality

Poplar Bluff, MO

#12 Feb 12, 2012
The reality is that unless something's printed in the school handbook or students sign a slip agreeing to out of school monitoring by the governmental entity that is the public school system, he doesn't have any legal rights to dictate what students do outside of school. There would be grounds to sue if an out of school activity caused a student to lose privileges, but the problem would be finding a lawyer willing to take on the "man" so to speak. The people who find it ok for a public school administrator to have the authority to move in on parental rights and obligations are the same Americans who are perfectly fine with the government slowly stripping away other rights, as long as they don't realize it's happening.

On the other hand, isn't the principal only trying to keep kids away from parties where underage drinking and open drug use is happening? As a parent, you shouldn't want your child in that sort of situation anyway. But I agree it's not the principal's place to mandate in the middle of the year without the proper legal paperwork in place so you're aware of what parental rights and freedoms you're giving up by enrolling your child in that school.
wendy

Poplar Bluff, MO

#13 Feb 12, 2012
reality wrote:
The reality is that unless something's printed in the school handbook or students sign a slip agreeing to out of school monitoring by the governmental entity that is the public school system, he doesn't have any legal rights to dictate what students do outside of school. There would be grounds to sue if an out of school activity caused a student to lose privileges, but the problem would be finding a lawyer willing to take on the "man" so to speak. The people who find it ok for a public school administrator to have the authority to move in on parental rights and obligations are the same Americans who are perfectly fine with the government slowly stripping away other rights, as long as they don't realize it's happening.

On the other hand, isn't the principal only trying to keep kids away from parties where underage drinking and open drug use is happening? As a parent, you shouldn't want your child in that sort of situation anyway. But I agree it's not the principal's place to mandate in the middle of the year without the proper legal paperwork in place so you're aware of what parental rights and freedoms you're giving up by enrolling your child in that school.
It isn't grounds to sue. There that will be two hundred dollars that I saved you for going to a lawyer.

Federal crime...I still am laughing my butt off on that one...
Good For The Principal

Jefferson City, MO

#14 Feb 12, 2012
reality wrote:
The people who find it ok for a public school administrator to have the authority to move in on parental rights and obligations are the same Americans who are perfectly fine with the government slowly stripping away other rights, as long as they don't realize it's happening.
Spoken like a true liberal, left winger...
Give them ANYTHING that might benefit them and they'll find reason to find fault with it..
Supervision of young people under the legal age of consent is a benefit, not an infringement of their civil rights. As I stated earlier in this post, and obviously many have agreed, you're lucky to have someone care enough to watch over these teenagers and keep them out of trouble.
Guest

United States

#15 Feb 12, 2012
Good For The Principal wrote:
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Spoken like a true liberal, left winger...
Give them ANYTHING that might benefit them and they'll find reason to find fault with it..
Supervision of young people under the legal age of consent is a benefit, not an infringement of their civil rights. As I stated earlier in this post, and obviously many have agreed, you're lucky to have someone care enough to watch over these teenagers and keep them out of trouble.
I can't even fathom how stupid you are. SCHOOL personnel do not have jurisdiction over anything outside of school function and they shouldn't. If I had kids they wouldn't go to parties with alcohol or drug paraphernalia present. And yes you can tell if it will be even as a parent. THE PARENTS SHOULD KEEP THEM OUT OF TROUBLE AND ACTUALLY TRY TO RAISE THEM. IT IS NOT THE PRINCIPALS JOB. I would want my kids to respect the principals and faculty but not to listen and do everything they say.
Anonymous

United States

#16 Feb 12, 2012
Good For The Principal wrote:
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Obviously YOU missed the point! Since when does supervision of any kind for young people need a jurisdiction? People who teach school or better yet, LEAD a school, are the best of supervisors for young people..
If no student committed a federal crime, isn't that a testimony of the principals watchful eye?
Young people have plenty of time to hang themselves when the principal isn't around. I say, let him watch your kids for as long as he'll put up with the little heathens..He MAY just save your kid from doing something they, and you, will regret...
Dude you're aware it was a dance party he cancelled not a binge drinking party. You made the jump in logic that a party meant drugs and beer when it was even allowed in the establishment and cops were supposed to be there to keep it out. Guest is right on this one.
Guest

United States

#17 Feb 12, 2012
Guest wrote:
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I can't even fathom how stupid you are. SCHOOL personnel do not have jurisdiction over anything outside of school function and they shouldn't. If I had kids they wouldn't go to parties with alcohol or drug paraphernalia present. And yes you can tell if it will be even as a parent. THE PARENTS SHOULD KEEP THEM OUT OF TROUBLE AND ACTUALLY TRY TO RAISE THEM. IT IS NOT THE PRINCIPALS JOB. I would want my kids to respect the principals and faculty but not to listen and do everything they say.
Outside of school that is
Good For The Principal

Jefferson City, MO

#18 Feb 12, 2012
Guest wrote:
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I can't even fathom how stupid you are. SCHOOL personnel do not have jurisdiction over anything outside of school function and they shouldn't. If I had kids they wouldn't go to parties with alcohol or drug paraphernalia present. And yes you can tell if it will be even as a parent. THE PARENTS SHOULD KEEP THEM OUT OF TROUBLE AND ACTUALLY TRY TO RAISE THEM. IT IS NOT THE PRINCIPALS JOB. I would want my kids to respect the principals and faculty but not to listen and do everything they say.
I'm nowhere NEAR stupid! What you wrote is precisely what I've been trying to get across!
Parents ARE responsible for supervising their own kids, but how many of them are smart enough to KNOW what their children are doing off the school campus?
I think the whole message of what's been done by the principal is confusing to me, but I'd still rather have that principal watching the kids when they're unsupervised than to not be supervised at all.
Anonymous

United States

#19 Feb 12, 2012
The problem isn't that Mr. Kiehne doesn't want the kids to go to parties, it's the fact that he has threatened to kick students off of sports teams if they go. Basketball, football, cheerleading, track, etc. It's fine that he wants the best for students, but kicking them off of a team for going to a non-school related function? Drug test those kids. If they didn't do anything naughty, then why kick them off for just going to a party to dance with friends? That's where he oversteps his boundaries.
guest

Poplar Bluff, MO

#20 Feb 13, 2012
Anonymous wrote:
The problem isn't that Mr. Kiehne doesn't want the kids to go to parties, it's the fact that he has threatened to kick students off of sports teams if they go. Basketball, football, cheerleading, track, etc. It's fine that he wants the best for students, but kicking them off of a team for going to a non-school related function? Drug test those kids. If they didn't do anything naughty, then why kick them off for just going to a party to dance with friends? That's where he oversteps his boundaries.
GREAT idea....drug testing for ALL kids that are involved in any kind of sports and extra activities!!! They get tested every Monday and if they partied hardy that past weekend they dont get to participate in their activity that week. 3 strikes and they are off the team. But then again you would have some parents screaming and threatening to sue over that too. Parents dont want to do the job but they dont want anyone else doing it either....ugh!!!!!!!!

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