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Poplar Bluff, MO

#41 Jul 16, 2012
Frankly_Speaking wrote:
<quoted text>When it comes to understanding everything about God, nobody can. We are so far removed from his nature that our human minds are just not capable of that depth of comprehension. I wish I had the answers, but I don't.

As far as why does God let people suffer the indignities of mankind and nature like he does. I also do not have that answer. This world as we know it is not how God initially planned it. His initial plan was as he created it in the Garden of Eden. Man was innocent and was made for working in God's creation, in union with God. But sin entered the world and the world was cursed. Ask yourself this, what kind of a world would it be if everyone was not greedy, unkind, loving, generous, caring, etc. It would probably be a much different world. But the effects of sin are ever reaching forward into the future. It's not pretty, is it? So my question to you is this, do you want to propagate sin forward in your future or do you want to get rid of it? Do you want what God offers, or do you want what the world offers? Choices, it all boils down to choices that we have to make.
This will not work. You are introducing fallibility into the nature of god. It is as god planned it because god is god.

You cannot have it both ways. Either god is omnipresent and all knowing or he is fallible.

On one hand you have to accept that the world is as god planned it to be. Or you have to introduce risk into the equation. Meaning god did not for see the true nature of man.

Or you can accept like most people the garden story is a parable that illustrates important cultural lessons.

A literal belief in the garden of Eden is impossible. Just as revelations is impossible to apply to the world.

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#42 Jul 16, 2012
hallicon wrote:
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Well naturally I am not an expert because I am unable to talk for god and assess if you are going to burn in hell but here is my take on it.
We as humans have a divine spark that gives us reason and self awareness. We are the only entities in the history of creation that have the ability to understand the workings of the universe.
With this we entered into a free will covenant with god. Meaning with reason came responsibility.
God is not letting anyone die we are moving across the earth as free people. We live in a perfect world it is a world of our own design.
Children are dying not because god will not save them but because we keep killing them....
God's not cruel. He's just grossly negligent.
Dr House says

Jackson, MO

#43 Jul 16, 2012
-o-o-o- wrote:
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I will ask God about this and I might post what he tells me if and when He does tell me anything concerning this.
-o-o-o- wrote:
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God told me that not everything that is found written in the bible is 100 % factual to the exact precise perfection of Truth.
-o-o-o- wrote:
And God went on to tell me that there are some things that even if He told you the answers to your questions
"If you talk to God you're religious. If God talks to you, you're psychotic."

“THE LAKE OF FIRE”

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#44 Jul 16, 2012
Dr House says wrote:
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"If you talk to God you're religious. If God talks to you, you're psychotic."
Who ever told you this lied to you.

“THE LAKE OF FIRE”

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#45 Jul 16, 2012
Could use an answer wrote:
One big problem I have in believing is not understanding why God would let millions of children die ? So many innocent tiny children starve to death. Burn in fires. Die in earthquakes. Get slaughtered in wrecks. WHY ? Why are millions of KIDS tortured ? I grew up in a religious family. I was saved when I was young. I feel I have "grown" out of that fairy tale that's made up to get kids to behave. My question above keeps me from believing more than anything. Anyone ?
I asked the Lord about this.

Here is what He said to me.

The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh.

Blessed be the name of the Lord.
Frankly_Speaking

Poplar Bluff, MO

#46 Jul 16, 2012
hallicon wrote:
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This will not work. You are introducing fallibility into the nature of god. It is as god planned it because god is god.
You cannot have it both ways. Either god is omnipresent and all knowing or he is fallible.
On one hand you have to accept that the world is as god planned it to be. Or you have to introduce risk into the equation. Meaning god did not for see the true nature of man.
Or you can accept like most people the garden story is a parable that illustrates important cultural lessons.
A literal belief in the garden of Eden is impossible. Just as revelations is impossible to apply to the world.
You're selling sin short of what it actually is.

“THE LAKE OF FIRE”

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#47 Jul 16, 2012
-o-o-o- wrote:
If You Will Obey God
I have often read or heard someone say, I have lost or I am losing my faith, I do not believe like I use to or I am having questions about God or if God is really real. And most of the time, more times than not, they will say I was talking to an atheist the other day and I was trying to explain to them about God and so forth and so forth.
Or they say something like, my boyfriend is a non believer or my girlfriend said it was alright with God to do this or that.
Or I married this or that.
And now my life is all messed up and I am depressed and addicted to this or that.
They will have plenty of sad stories.
If you will obey God you will not find yourself telling these sad stories to anyone.
There are 24 hours in a day.

How much of that time do you give to God?

If God gave you exactly the same amount of time

to you, that you gave to him,

would that be alright with you?

If you say NO...Then you are treating God less

than he deserves from you.

Ask yourself, what exactly does God deserve from

you?

Do you give more of your time to anything else

more than you give to God?

If you say YES, Is that the way to treat God?

What exactly does God deserve from you?

Do you give him your left overs?

Ask yourself, what does God deserve from me?

Make a list of all the things you do everyday,

then make a list of what you do

that blesses God everyday.

Then make a list of what God does to bless you

every day.

Compare them.

Everyone loves God with all their words.

Very few upon all the Earth love God with their

heart.

Did You Say You Love God?
Lettuce Prey

Wentzville, MO

#48 Jul 16, 2012
Merciful Lord, who prayed that there be one flock and one shepherd,

I ask the light of faith

for those who are related to me

and do not know You in Your Eucharistic Presence.

Give them the joy of Your protecting presence.

Bring them into the one fold

of which You are the master and Lord.

Forgive them their sins and teach them the way of repentance.

In the end bring them into the larger circle of Your family,

to God our Father,

to Mary our Mother,

and to You our beloved Brother.

Amen.

“THE LAKE OF FIRE”

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#49 Jul 16, 2012
My God

Please hurry up with the Lake of Fire.

The evil doers have over run your beloved Earth.

amen

“I'm the REAL Dolly, always!”

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#50 Jul 16, 2012
-o-o-o- wrote:
My God

Please hurry up with the Lake of Fire.

The evil doers have over run your beloved Earth.

amen
So if you're not Christian, what religion are you specifically?
Duh

Jackson, MO

#51 Jul 16, 2012
methinks his religion be trollism

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#52 Jul 16, 2012
DollyDearest wrote:
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So if you're not Christian, what religion are you specifically?
I am not from this world.

I am from the world to come.

“I'm the REAL Dolly, always!”

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#53 Jul 17, 2012
-o-o-o- wrote:
<quoted text>I am not from this world.

I am from the world to come.
That was vague and totally avoiding the question...

“THE LAKE OF FIRE”

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#54 Jul 17, 2012
DollyDearest wrote:
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That was vague and totally avoiding the question...
Says who?

You?

You must remember when you converse with me that I do not value your opinions.

“THE LAKE OF FIRE”

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#55 Jul 17, 2012
Especially when they are incorrect.

“Meh”

Since: Jan 11

Under your bed

#56 Jul 17, 2012
-o-o-o- wrote:
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Who ever told you this lied to you.
So when people claim god told them to kill thier kids, they're not crazy?

“THE LAKE OF FIRE”

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#57 Jul 17, 2012
MrPKitty wrote:
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So when people claim god told them to kill thier kids, they're not crazy?
How would what God tells someone to do determine they are crazy?

Tell me this then I will try to answer your question.

“Meh”

Since: Jan 11

Under your bed

#58 Jul 17, 2012
-o-o-o- wrote:
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How would what God tells someone to do determine they are crazy?
Tell me this then I will try to answer your question.
You just did.

“THE LAKE OF FIRE”

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#59 Jul 17, 2012
MrPKitty wrote:
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You just did.
I am not God.

“Meh”

Since: Jan 11

Under your bed

#60 Jul 17, 2012
-o-o-o- wrote:
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I am not God.
I knew that.

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