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You gotta be kidding

Cape Girardeau, MO

#1 Aug 17, 2008
I was told of an incident that happened at Briggs & Stratton the other day, where Deputy Brad Santo's was asked to leave the premisis because he was wearing a firearm. Briggs and Stratton can do what ever they want, however Santos is a state certified law enforcement officer, who happened to be on duty (not that this matters) and was within his right to carry a weapon in to this place. Seems to me, there may be some sort of potential for discrimination law suite against Briggs for this. Santos is a person of Hispanic decsent and I can easily conclude that Briggs wouldn't have asked him to leave if he were in full uniform inside their plant. By U.S. Statutes, certified police officers are only prohibited from carrying a firearm in certain places, such federal court buildings, and does not include places like Briggs and Stratton. You have to wonder what would have made the management make such a decision to ask him to leave. I hope they never need the police or sheriff's department at the plant, because they WILL bring their weapon inside with them when they call. As a matter of fact, they had better hope that they bring them with them if they are needed, because they aren't going to leave them at the door and fist fight someone else with a gun just because they have a badge.
Guest

United States

#2 Aug 17, 2008
Why was Santo at Briggs?
umm

Saint Louis, MO

#3 Aug 17, 2008
If he was on duty shouldn't he have been in full uniform?
guest63901

United States

#4 Aug 17, 2008
well whether he was in full uniform or not he has a right to carry his gun right? i'd say to hell with those briggs workers and if something happens there then they'll wish santos could have been there to help out
You gotta be kidding

Cape Girardeau, MO

#5 Aug 17, 2008
umm wrote:
If he was on duty shouldn't he have been in full uniform?
He's a plain clothes officer, that is his uniform.
briggs employee

Saint Louis, MO

#7 Aug 17, 2008
I have worked at Briggs for 10 years and I have seen several cops down there and they have NEVER said anything to them about wearing a concealed weapon. You gotta be kidding needs to stop listening to GOSSIP, cause it's not true. Get your story straight.
You gotta be kidding

Cape Girardeau, MO

#8 Aug 18, 2008
The story is straight, straight from someone that was standing there when it happened. Ask the deputy
RDKICKER

Poplar Bluff, MO

#9 Aug 19, 2008
THIS SOUNDS LIKE 3905 AGAIN
RDKICKER

Poplar Bluff, MO

#10 Aug 20, 2008
WHATS UP RANDY NO COMMENT? THATS THE FIRST TIME YOUR FAT ASS DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY!

Since: Aug 08

United States

#11 Aug 21, 2008
Certified police officers are only barred from carrying their firearms in certain places, but they don't have a right to carry a firearm into any other place they choose.

I don't know the story of what happened, but Briggs & Stratton is a privately owned business, not a government entity. As such, if they've clearly posted that firearms aren't permitted, they have every right to refuse admittance of ANYONE (whether in or out of uniform) who is carrying a weapon. And I'm willing to bet they wouldn't make too much of an issue of the firearm if there was a real emergency.

I have a lot of respect for Mark Melloy. If he refused someone entry to the plant, I have faith that he had a good reason.
former employee

Saint Louis, MO

#12 Aug 23, 2008
Joe Dicken wrote:
Certified police officers are only barred from carrying their firearms in certain places, but they don't have a right to carry a firearm into any other place they choose.
I don't know the story of what happened, but Briggs & Stratton is a privately owned business, not a government entity. As such, if they've clearly posted that firearms aren't permitted, they have every right to refuse admittance of ANYONE (whether in or out of uniform) who is carrying a weapon. And I'm willing to bet they wouldn't make too much of an issue of the firearm if there was a real emergency.
I have a lot of respect for Mark Melloy. If he refused someone entry to the plant, I have faith that he had a good reason.
You're faith is misplaced if you only knew.
Qulinite

United States

#13 Aug 24, 2008
With the security Brigg's has, how did he get in to begin with? He would have to have had a badge or someone would have to have let him in. On or off duty, weapon or not, if there's a problem, I'm sure he would have been welcome. HOWEVER!! If he's just there to see someone, business or pleasure, that could be a different story. We are working when we are there and not accepting visitos. It's easy to find out who let him in if that be the case. What time of day/night did he go to Briggs?

Since: Aug 08

United States

#14 Aug 24, 2008
former employee wrote:
<quoted text>You're faith is misplaced if you only knew.
Do elaborate. Why is it misplaced?
Bruce Sinton

Palmerston North, New Zealand

#15 Aug 27, 2008
I am in New Zealand,so not as aware of US law as all of you.
However , a company putting up a sign in/on their premises, will not alter the law relating to what Policemen can or cannot do .
If law says Police can have gun in such places that it.
Peace and Joy 7
pbkivkicken

AOL

#16 Oct 24, 2008
might be mark was scared he was gonna find some dope in his office,the hr people should have to due a ramdome hair test as i know for sure alot of them smoke and blow the snow up. been there with them
Kevin Ates

Milwaukee, WI

#17 Oct 24, 2008
pbkivkicken wrote:
might be mark was scared he was gonna find some dope in his office,the hr people should have to due a ramdome hair test as i know for sure alot of them smoke and blow the snow up. been there with them
Prove it or shut the F*CK UP...
neelyville loser

Eminence, MO

#18 Oct 24, 2008
no one ever answered the question as to why he was there, if he was visiting his wife or something, why does he need a gun for that, briggs is privatly owned and they have the right to refuse anyone to come into their building without a reason just as i do for ppl coming in my house unless their is a threat or a warrent, cops included.
JAC

Faridabad, India

#19 Oct 24, 2008
Joe Dicken wrote:
Certified police officers are only barred from carrying their firearms in certain places, but they don't have a right to carry a firearm into any other place they choose.
I don't know the story of what happened, but Briggs & Stratton is a privately owned business, not a government entity. As such, if they've clearly posted that firearms aren't permitted, they have every right to refuse admittance of ANYONE (whether in or out of uniform) who is carrying a weapon. And I'm willing to bet they wouldn't make too much of an issue of the firearm if there was a real emergency.
I have a lot of respect for Mark Melloy. If he refused someone entry to the plant, I have faith that he had a good reason.
Only part of what you're saying is correct. In the State of Missouri, Police Officers are only barred from carrying their weapons into correction facilities. Otherwise by state law, and most jurisdictional policies the officer or deputy is required to carry(even off duty).

There can be a number of explanations as to why he was asked to leave. It is private property, and as such the property owner can ask for him to leave. However, they nor any other property owner can make him or any other officer relinquish his firearm. In uniform or not, the law makes absolutely no distinction.
Dons on the river

AOL

#20 Oct 24, 2008
Kevin Ates wrote:
<quoted text>
Prove it or shut the F*CK UP...
A lil testy...huh?
neelyville loser

Eminence, MO

#21 Oct 24, 2008
Kevin Ates wrote:
<quoted text>
Prove it or shut the F*CK UP...
look at the location, must be one of those corporate pud smackers (i know i spelled corporate wrong, but u know what it is, lol)

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