Ice-Man

Chicago, IL

#1 Jan 17, 2012
I don't have a college degree, but feel like I'm looked down upon by some people that have a degree. Don't get me wrong I'm not against college and hope my kids will be college educated someday. I just think its wrong for someone to think they are superior to non-college educated people. Does anyone else feel this? I'd also like feedback from anyone with a college degree.
ASU 82

Leslie, AR

#2 Jan 17, 2012
Live a satisfying and prosperous life. Over time, that tends to piss people off more than anything else.
American

United States

#3 Jan 18, 2012
Not everyone goes to college. I did go for two years and got my associates degree. But I have met people like you are talking about. Some of them acted like they were better because they had their masters. That's called a college educated idiot. They have no common sense, and think they know everything.
Calvin

Springfield, MO

#4 Jan 18, 2012
American wrote:
Not everyone goes to college. I did go for two years and got my associates degree. But I have met people like you are talking about. Some of them acted like they were better because they had their masters. That's called a college educated idiot. They have no common sense, and think they know everything.
How trite!
guest

Saint Louis, MO

#5 Jan 18, 2012
I also have an associate's degree, and make $7.45/hr. after working at the same business 7 yrs. You think it may be time to move on? LOL. Honestly, in this economy, it's good to have full time employment, but it would be nice if there were more options. Having a degree is no guarantee of anything. Plenty of people with degrees, and in debt up to their eyeballs with student loans and such, that can't find work.
American

United States

#6 Jan 18, 2012
guest wrote:
I also have an associate's degree, and make $7.45/hr. after working at the same business 7 yrs. You think it may be time to move on? LOL. Honestly, in this economy, it's good to have full time employment, but it would be nice if there were more options. Having a degree is no guarantee of anything. Plenty of people with degrees, and in debt up to their eyeballs with student loans and such, that can't find work.
. I know what you are saying , and I agree.
degrees

Poplar Bluff, MO

#7 Jan 18, 2012
I know what you mean. I have a B.A. but I don't think I'm better than anyone. However, I know people who think degrees determine how smart someone is and their worth. Many in my family have master degrees but no common sense, so they're actually pretty stupid. I personally think its better to know a trade in today's workforce. Gone are the days of a college degree = instant success. My husband has no college but is skilled in a trade and makes more money than our friends with degrees, but he's looked down upon the most because he works with his hands and doesn't sit in an office all day. But he makes on average about 10,000 more a year than all of them, and he's the one they all come to when their dumb butts can't figure out what's wrong with their car/appliance/lawn mower etc....
Ice-Man

Chicago, IL

#8 Jan 18, 2012
Not everyone is cut out for college. I do think everyone needs the basic education that high school provides. I agree as the previous post said that learning a trade these days gives you more opportunity. It takes all types of jobs to establish a solid economy. I hate that there are a lot of college graduates that can't find work. We need more assessments at the high school level that will help students identify what type of job would be best suited for them. The schools do a fair job at identifying gifted students in math, science and communication arts and provide programs to challenge those students. They don't typically identify or provide special classes for the kids that have other gifts. Back to the original post, thanks for the input. I've just always been curious if it was just me or if other feel same as I do.
Whatever

United States

#9 Jan 19, 2012
Worse than that is the idiots who feel superior with their degrees that they "bought" from the faux online college program. Deep pockets do not equal deep thoughts. Lol
Retired Air Force

Indianapolis, IN

#10 Jan 19, 2012
A college degrees doesn't make you smarter but it does open more doors for employment with better pay. How many job descriptions have you seen that lists a degree as a basic requirement? It's better to have than not but it won't guarantee you a job.
Degrees

Poplar Bluff, MO

#11 Jan 20, 2012
You may be committing a Fundamental Attribution Error. College doesn't make someone "smarter" per say, but it does make them more "educated" depending upon the program. You will always have people who think they are better than someone else. Whether it's because they go to a specific church, or drive a particular vehicle, or because they can drink more than someone else. Human beings are intrinsically competitive, some more than others, and I believe that sociology backs this statement when I state that people are condescending across the spectrum. People without degrees can be condescending, so why should one expect that someone with a degree will not be condescending? Perhaps it is your own expectation or perception? Perhaps there is some deep seeded feeling of inadequacy or regret?

Even if there isn't, it cannot be argued that education is worthless. Educational worth is valued by many means. Some attend school to further their career or break into a new field. Some do it for the experience. Others still do it to stroke their ego. Why someone gets a degree doesn't really matter. What matters is how they utilize that education.

For example, the concept that online colleges are all paper mills is a logical fallacy of hasteful induction; in other words, the person making the claim is most likely doing so out of generalization or stereotype, and also likely has not researched the statistical data to back up such an outlandish claim. Without research from credible sources, it becomes nothing more than an opinion - one based on bias, an intolerably low sample-rate, and logical fallacy and therefore is worth nothing.

There are many different tertiary educational institutions and each type exists to serve a specific demographic. Online colleges are geared toward working adults who are also likely parents that have very different needs than a traditional student. Not all online schools are paper mills. Any online institution which is regionally accredited must meet the same standards as any traditional brick-and-mortar institution and their degrees are recognized by all other regionally accredited institutions and most credits can be transferred between them.

Why someone would get a degree is as varied as there are people who might attempt them. Certainly, there are degree programs which currently do not appear to be viable, such as secondary education. A person may attend four years of college and rack up $35,000 in debt and find they cannot get a job as a high school teacher due to layoffs, cutbacks, and tenure. However, each person is responsible for identifying the marketability of their degree before they pursue it. For example, the tech industry is expected to grow in demand by 16% between 2008 and 2016 years. There are more tech-related jobs than there are students graduating to fill them. Pay can vary widely between 20K and 180K per year depending upon education, experience, and position.

Is a degree required to break into the tech field or one similar? Almost always this is the case. The reason is that there is a vast knowledge base that must be, at the very least, familiarized with in order for that person to be able to perform the job. There are literally thousands of different disciplines within the tech field, and each requires very specific knowledge and capabilities. Anyone who just says, "I know computers because I remove viruses from my cousin's laptop" is exactly the kind of person you don't want getting within 100 feet of your server room.

Above all, I have personally found the greatest benefit of higher education (finishing up my second degree now) is the ability to write in formal scholarly style which will be recognized by peers and superiors around the world as appropriate and worthy material. If one wants to be recognized as a professional, he or she must present themselves as such. "Better" than someone is ambiguous. We all excel more than others in something. It's not "P.C." but it's true.
Calvin

Springfield, MO

#12 Jan 20, 2012
Yo, Degrees! I think you meant "per se," didn't you? Oh! And it's "deep seated," you dummass.
Degrees

Poplar Bluff, MO

#13 Jan 20, 2012
Calvin wrote:
Yo, Degrees! I think you meant "per se," didn't you? Oh! And it's "deep seated," you dummass.
Yes. I made typographical errors. Which highlights my point even further. I'm not perfect just because I have a degree and I'm just as humanly fallible as the next person. I don't understand why you feel the need to insult me over a 1 in 330 word error ratio in an online forum setting, but to each their own.
Calvin

Springfield, MO

#14 Jan 20, 2012
Those weren't typos; they were misspellings. Drop some of that hubris and learn the difference.
mike

Fowlerton, TX

#15 Jan 20, 2012
Ice-Man wrote:
I don't have a college degree, but feel like I'm looked down upon by some people that have a degree. Don't get me wrong I'm not against college and hope my kids will be college educated someday. I just think its wrong for someone to think they are superior to non-college educated people. Does anyone else feel this? I'd also like feedback from anyone with a college degree.
its never too late dude. I am almost 50 and am finally going to college. It always bothered me that i didn't go even though i have made a very good living. Its just something i want to do for me.

Since: Dec 11

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#16 Jan 21, 2012
degrees wrote:
I know what you mean. I have a B.A. but I don't think I'm better than anyone. However, I know people who think degrees determine how smart someone is and their worth. Many in my family have master degrees but no common sense, so they're actually pretty stupid. I personally think its better to know a trade in today's workforce. Gone are the days of a college degree = instant success. My husband has no college but is skilled in a trade and makes more money than our friends with degrees, but he's looked down upon the most because he works with his hands and doesn't sit in an office all day. But he makes on average about 10,000 more a year than all of them, and he's the one they all come to when their dumb butts can't figure out what's wrong with their car/appliance/lawn mower etc....
a trade is a great thing to have, but most companies now want you to have the trade and a degree or certification and a degree. Many times with a trade they really don't care what your degree is in.
Open Eyes

United States

#17 Jan 23, 2012
A degree equates to your inferiority to me. That implies that I must teach you because without me your dumbass would have no chance in life and you are of a lesser station in life than me. In other words you are subhuman compared to my intelligence. So don't complain about your situation because it sounds like a lame beast asking Einstein why it cannot understand its pathetic existence.
mike

Poplar Bluff, MO

#18 Jan 23, 2012
Open Eyes wrote:
A degree equates to your inferiority to me. That implies that I must teach you because without me your dumbass would have no chance in life and you are of a lesser station in life than me. In other words you are subhuman compared to my intelligence. So don't complain about your situation because it sounds like a lame beast asking Einstein why it cannot understand its pathetic existence.
wow! Degree or not you are possibly the dumbest mfr to ever post on this forum. And thats quite a feat trust me. Congratulations.
Calvin

United States

#19 Jan 23, 2012
Many years ago when I was fresh out of college and interviewing for a sales job, a potential employer said this to me about preferring to hire college graduates: "It's not really about what you learned in college. Being a college graduate shows me that you can dedicate yourself to a goal for four or more years and stick with it all the way to the end."

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