Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 310345 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#288264 Mar 7, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>lol...you don't figure anything, ever. That's why you can't follow a simple conversation without having to ask what's going on every few posts. Try to think for yourself,for once. You're one lazy chick.
That's another circular way to not answer a question.
Gtown71

United States

#288265 Mar 7, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
<quoted text>
What is "Holy" about some of the things God did? I'm no bible expert, but God allegedly did some nasty things. God did some mass murdering, so why not let serial killers just use the bible stories as a defense? I can just see it now..."Well God did it".
Well would you agree, "if there is a God ",that He would be God and us just His creation?

God only deals with sin one way, He kills it.

Yes He has had children killed, but He is God, and it stopped the blood line of that particular sec.

All babies go to Heaven, but God is God, we are not, but have no problem playing it.
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#288266 Mar 7, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
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What is "Holy" about some of the things God did? I'm no bible expert, but God allegedly did some nasty things. God did some mass murdering, so why not let serial killers just use the bible stories as a defense? I can just see it now..."Well God did it".
God's punishment of evil and corruption can be fierce.
feces for jesus

Westbury, NY

#288267 Mar 7, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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All babies go to Heaven........
Is this a fact or a belief?

Let us see if you know the difference.
feces for jesus

Westbury, NY

#288268 Mar 7, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
God's punishment of evil and corruption can be fierce.
So gods punishment is holy?
feces for jesus

Westbury, NY

#288269 Mar 7, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
Thou shalt not murder.
Where does it say abortion was a common practice?
More children was a safeguard for the community and the continuation of a society. Tell me where it says that the Israelites made a habit of executing their unborn children.
Ok, let's use your "logic" and question what you think the bible says.
Where does it say anything about homosexuality? Not that a 2000 book of hearsay is evidence of anything, but I'm curious to hear your reply.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#288270 Mar 7, 2013
Your god supposedly killed everyone in sodom and gomorrah (except his favorite incestuous family). He killed the first-born of every egyptian family. He drowned the WORLD'S population except for a few favorites, ensuring that all humans afterwards would be the products of incest (he likes keepin' it in the family.)" EVERY ONE of those people were so sinful they deserved to die?

You worship a psychopathic mad-dog killer. If that is god, I sure as hell can do a better job.
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well would you agree, "if there is a God ",that He would be God and us just His creation?
God only deals with sin one way, He kills it.
Yes He has had children killed, but He is God, and it stopped the blood line of that particular sec.
All babies go to Heaven, but God is God, we are not, but have no problem playing it.
grumpy

Stony Point, NY

#288271 Mar 7, 2013
Doc Degall wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong. Casey vs PP rejected the RvW trimester framework and recognized:
"...a woman's right to choose to have an abortion before fetal viability and to obtain it without undue interference from the State, whose pre-viability interests are not strong enough to support an abortion prohibition or the imposition of substantial obstacles to the woman's effective right to elect the procedure"
As I posted: Ant-choicers want viability to occur within the first 3 months which would give states the right to impose resistrictions.
This would happen if the trimester framework was struck down.
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#288272 Mar 7, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok, let's use your "logic" and question what you think the bible says.
Where does it say anything about homosexuality? Not that a 2000 book of hearsay is evidence of anything, but I'm curious to hear your reply.
Lev 18:22
Lev 20:13
Corinthians 6:9-11
Timothy 1:8-10
STO

Vallejo, CA

#288273 Mar 7, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
How can if forbid abortion when it discusses ways to kill pregnant women? Or even in Exodus, when the 3rd party only needs to pay a fine if he caused an abortion without harming the woman. But it's life for a life if he harms the woman in the process. Still, it seems silly to cause an abortion to prove infidelity. But what can be expected from people who didn't understand biology the way we do?
I understand why it would seem silly to you, especially in this era. However, if you think about it in terms of the importance of lineage and inheritance in those days, it may make more sense.

For example, there is a story regarding inheritance in which it is women who petition the elders for their right to inherit their father's property, as he had no male heir. Zelophehad's daughters/Numbers 27. They won, if you will. Later, the issue was raised that their inheritance would pass on to their husbands, even if from another tribe. So that was decided, thusly:

Numbers 36

6 This is the thing which the Lord doth command concerning the daughters of Zelophehad, saying, Let them marry to whom they think best; only to the family of the tribe of their father shall they marry.

7 So shall not the inheritance of the children of Israel remove from tribe to tribe: for every one of the children of Israel shall keep himself to the inheritance of the tribe of his fathers.

8 And every daughter, that possesseth an inheritance in any tribe of the children of Israel, shall be wife unto one of the family of the tribe of her father, that the children of Israel may enjoy every man the inheritance of his fathers.

So, causing a miscarriage/abortion would not just prove infidelity but would also ensure the husband's property not be passed on to another man's heir.
Katie

Spanaway, WA

#288274 Mar 7, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
I asked if it would be effective to determine the faithfulness of a wife.
No answer so far.
He asked you where your faith is. I agree, The Law of Jealosuies seems silly. But like I said to STO, what can we expect from people in those times? They did not understand biology the way we do. It's easy to see the emotional reasons for believing an abortion from the bitter water would prove infidelity. One emotional argument is not too different from the next, Ink.

Oh, regarding your other post to me, maybe you could research the two plants mentioned. One was pennyroyal, I believe. Look it up. It will provide the info you're looking for; how long it's been used, what it's been used for, why it was used, etc.
STO

Vallejo, CA

#288275 Mar 7, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
No. You still have to explain how trying to abort a woman who is probably not pregnant going to prove or disprove her fidelity.
I "have to" explain how God set up the Law so the guilty woman's body would react to the bitter water, while the innocent woman's body would not?

I did. If she is pregnant, she will miscarry.

You are taking a turn into the secular POV. Which, like I said, I'd be happy to discuss with you. Essentially, you are questioning God. Not me. How can any reaction from the woman's body, be it miscarriage or vomiting or a headache, prove infideltiy?

But first thing's first.

Are you taking issue with the evidence I have presented to you regarding Numbers 5 and the translations? If so, what?

You haven't given any reason, so far, which negates the proof.
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#288276 Mar 7, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
He asked you where your faith is. I agree, The Law of Jealousies seems silly. But like I said to STO, what can we expect from people in those times? They did not understand biology the way we do. It's easy to see the emotional reasons for believing an abortion from the bitter water would prove infidelity. One emotional argument is not too different from the next, Ink.
Oh, regarding your other post to me, maybe you could research the two plants mentioned. One was pennyroyal, I believe. Look it up. It will provide the info you're looking for; how long it's been used, what it's been used for, why it was used, etc.
Even in those days one would have to be pregnant to cause an abortion. Your interpretation makes no sense then or now. If you were honest, you would admit it.

As far as the fact that were abortive plants around then matters not to the culture of the Israelites whose very existence depended on children being born.
STO

Vallejo, CA

#288277 Mar 7, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Does it make sense to you that this would be an effective way to determine a wife's faithfulness? You keep ignoring this question. Could it be you don't have an answer?
It makes sense to God.

Numbers 5

11 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying ,

12 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, If any man's wife go aside , and commit a trespass against him,

(by now, you should have read the entire Law of Jealousies)

Notice where it says, "And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying..."

Are you implying God makes no sense, or are you implying Moses lied and made up the Law, againt God's will?
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#288278 Mar 7, 2013
STO wrote:
<quoted text>
I "have to" explain how God set up the Law so the guilty woman's body would react to the bitter water, while the innocent woman's body would not?
I did. If she is pregnant, she will miscarry.
You are taking a turn into the secular POV. Which, like I said, I'd be happy to discuss with you. Essentially, you are questioning God. Not me. How can any reaction from the woman's body, be it miscarriage or vomiting or a headache, prove infideltiy?
But first thing's first.
Are you taking issue with the evidence I have presented to you regarding Numbers 5 and the translations? If so, what?
You haven't given any reason, so far, which negates the proof.
Yes, it doesn't make sense. Not every woman would be pregnant that was accused of being unfaithful, so any barren woman would automatically be innocent. God's not stupid.
STO

Vallejo, CA

#288279 Mar 7, 2013
sasylicious wrote:
<quoted text> http://www.drbo.org/chapter/04005.htm
You made no case.
Heck you even admitted KJV is "imperfect" and so you wonder why you are getting questioned?
Words were added which were forbidden.
Books were taken away which were forbidden.
Poor sjm. Can't follow a discussion. All English translations are imperfect.

Do you know ancient Hebrew? Do you have access to the ancient manuscripts that are kept securely in museums, all over the world?

No? Then your sources are "imperfect" too. Stop being a doofus.
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#288280 Mar 7, 2013
STO wrote:
<quoted text>
It makes sense to God.
Numbers 5
11 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying ,
12 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, If any man's wife go aside , and commit a trespass against him,
(by now, you should have read the entire Law of Jealousies)
Notice where it says, "And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying..."
Are you implying God makes no sense, or are you implying Moses lied and made up the Law, against God's will?
First I am not buying one man's opinion of what that verse means.

It looks to me like a patriarchal society's way of ridding oneself of a current wife in favor of another.

Do you think the world was created in seven days?
feces for jesus

Westbury, NY

#288281 Mar 7, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
Lev 18:22
Lev 20:13
Corinthians 6:9-11
Timothy 1:8-10
And not one of those passages saying anything about homosexuality, but I do appreciate your evasive response.

And hey; why refer to Leviticus if the new testament replaces the old?
feces for jesus

Westbury, NY

#288282 Mar 7, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
First I am not buying one man's opinion of what that verse means.
Nope, you have your own opinion and you think your Opinion is the truth. Are you capable of keeping an open mind?
STO

Vallejo, CA

#288283 Mar 7, 2013
sasylicious wrote:
<quoted text> STO is frustrated. He doesn't like to have bible discussions. He links something that he's copied and pasted and refuses to acknowledge the inconsistencies.
Mesnwhile, he knows(or claims to) the bible. Having read the "entire bible" yet leaves out what God has to say about killing the innocent or how he created us. He has NO problem talking about this ONE passage in the bible for weeks on end but when asked about another ( by Gtown) he runs because he is afraid to have his proabort friends not like his answer.
He has an agenda. He's using God to justify his evil support and to cover up his siblings death.Take notice that otherwise, he REFUSES to talk about God.
All of my siblings are alive and well. Your wishes aside.

I'd love to take up Gtown's question. But you guys are easily distacted. So..one thing at a time.

Btw, thanks for proving yet again you're entire argument is that anyone who disagrees with you is "evil". Same ol' Same ol'.

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