Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

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Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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Naah. It's a matter of perspective. I read your posts, decided I didn't need to respond. What's the point anyway? Besides being contentious just for the sake of being contentious?
Artificial wombs and artificial surfactant will create changes in the medical diagnosis of viability. As long as the courts remain at a distance without having a determining factor in it (as you've predicted will be), then all is well in the world.
For now. Eventually everyone will have to admit that a woman is carrying a real baby and it's life has value.
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Of course I have personal opinions. They're irrelevant, because I'm not the one making a choice, I'm not trying to have my personal opinions on any aspect of this issue legislated, and my personal opinions form no part of my argument in this debate.
What possible difference could it make to any woman making her own choice how I feel about any of it?
I was just trying to find out if you were a complete numbskull.

Gee even the president tells us his opinion on the subject.
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I would hope so or else Heaven is an empty place. ;o)
Why be so critical of a sinner who has repented and is trying to tell us how meanful it was to him and how God has changed his life?
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It would be much better if they had a medical doctor do it.
True.
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The fundies don't ever want to face these facts.
Why not?
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And he's apparently forgotten that it was Judaism where that practice began. They are hardly "Pagan".
Sunday afternoon and Bitner, cpeter and fat moon are posting about killing babies and abortions like they do everyday. Pretty pathetic

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Why be so critical of a sinner who has repented and is trying to tell us how meanful it was to him and how God has changed his life?
I absolutely think it's great that he found God. However, I just don't feel he's qualified to lecture anyone about the sanctity of marriage, fidelity, God and sin considering his background. Perhaps it's the cynic in me but I've always found folks who find God after doing a whole lot of questionable things, which caused them to get in trouble(in this case, a long term extra-marital affair that resulted in a child being born into that), to be rather interesting, if you will for a lack of a better word.
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I absolutely think it's great that he found God. However, I just don't feel he's qualified to lecture anyone about the sanctity of marriage, fidelity, God and sin considering his background. Perhaps it's the cynic in me but I've always found folks who find God after doing a whole lot of questionable things, which caused them to get in trouble(in this case, a long term extra-marital affair that resulted in a child being born into that), to be rather interesting, if you will for a lack of a better word.
What kind of qualifications does one need to share his feelings and experiences?

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<quoted text> Hey, how many butter and bacon sandwiches do you eat to keep up your gargantuan figure? Do you slather on the feces for more flavor?
Go peddle your shallow hatred and jealousy elsewhere, Admitted Liar. You have no credibility here.

And remember, I can always lose weight, but you'll always be ugly inside.
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To sum it up, the concept of "potentially viable" may only be applied to the the natural womb -- like you said. However, a fetus at the same gestational stage in the hypothetical artifical womb would be considered "viable", even tho, in reality it is "potentially viable". In both scenarios, the fetus would have to "reach viability".
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I don't think there's anything we disagree on here. The bottom line here is that outside of the concept of the not yet plausible "artificial womb" the concept of "reaching viability" with medical assistance, outside the natural womb, is impossible.
Hear that Kate ?
Yeah I hear you believe that VIABILITY in concept applies only to the gestating fetus. I hear you believe it has no practicality being applied to a micropreemie or other premature newborns; even those who don't survive.

To me it seems like you're splitting hairs just for the sake of splitting hair. Or being contentious just for the sake of being contentious.

I maintain, a fetus determined to be viable who is delivered and attached to ALS, but dies anyway, was obviously not viable. It was unable to survive outside the womb.

Back to splitting hair -- I have interchanged VIABLE and SURVIVE throughout this yearS long discussion/disagreement. I do not believe it's been wrong to do so.

Limit of Viability
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM1993...

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Boy you really have your panties in a knot, don't you. I never said PP lied about breast screenings. Go back and look.
No, I don't have my "panties in a knot".

I wasn't counting you among the liars there.

Your deflecting, but that's no surprise. I knew you wouldn't actually address my post.

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I was just trying to find out if you were a complete numbskull.
Gee even the president tells us his opinion on the subject.
Good for him. Why would I care what he says?

Sorry, Witless, you are the "numbskull". You prove that with every post.

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Sunday afternoon and Bitner, cpeter and fat moon are posting about killing babies and abortions like they do everyday. Pretty pathetic
I'm not posting about killing babies, Liar. Why is God such a liar? And what has the day to do with anything?

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What kind of qualifications does one need to share his feelings and experiences?
Hi "Ink!"

How are you?
I'm feeling much better--thank you for your concern.

:)

My friend, I fear you've misunderstood "Michelle's" post(or perhaps I have!)
She wasn't--I believe--referring to "Gtown's" so-called "qualifications," but his rather "sneering," "condescending," "judgmental" attitude towards those whom are "guilty" of the same "sins" that he's already admitted to being guilty of...

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What kind of qualifications does one need to share his feelings and experiences?
There's nothing wrong with sharing feelings and experiences. However, when someone lectures folks about the sanctity of marriage, God and sin, I'm going to take what they say with a whole barrel of salt when they've carried on a long term extra-marital affair that resulted in the birth of a child.

Let me put it this way, if it were me, and for the record I abhor infidelity so I'm really reaching to put myself in his shoes, and I had an affair that resulted in me getting pregnant, I would be EXTREMELY thankful that my husband was a forgiving man and would be willing to raise another mans child as his own. After all that, when I found God, I would've also gone on a search to find humility because the last thing I would do is share that experience because I'd be so embarrassed for all of the pain I caused my husband, I'd be so embarrased that I have to explain to my child that the man who is raising him/her that their daddy is not their father and I'd have to explain the circumstances of their conception. I most definitely would *not* have the audacity to lecture and speak down to people about the sanctity of marriage, fidelity, God and sin because I would not feel I'm qualified to speak on those things when I did not respect the vows I took with my husband as I didn't just have a one night stand; I carried on a long term affair and had no choice to come clean when I became pregnant. Not only that, I would most definitely NOT lecture folks about God and sin when it was *my* sin that caused all of my problems and caused others a whole lot of hurt and pain.
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<quoted text> Hey, how many butter and bacon sandwiches do you eat to keep up your gargantuan figure? Do you slather on the tomatoes and lettuce for more flavor?
Enjoy your lunch.

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Hi "Ink!"
How are you?
I'm feeling much better--thank you for your concern.
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My friend, I fear you've misunderstood "Michelle's" post(or perhaps I have!)
She wasn't--I believe--referring to "Gtown's" so-called "qualifications," but his rather "sneering," "condescending," "judgmental" attitude towards those whom are "guilty" of the same "sins" that he's already admitted to being guilty of...
Hi John! How are you? For the most part, you're correct in that assessment. It goes a bit beyond that and I hope I broke it down more in the response I wrote for Ink.:o)
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Naah. It's a matter of perspective. I read your posts, decided I didn't need to respond. What's the point anyway? Besides being contentious just for the sake of being contentious?
Artificial wombs and artificial surfactant will create changes in the medical diagnosis of viability. As long as the courts remain at a distance without having a determining factor in it (as you've predicted will be), then all is well in the world.
There is no such thing as an artificial womb.
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Go peddle your shallow hatred and jealousy elsewhere, Admitted Liar. You have no credibility here.
And remember, I can always lose weight, but you'll always be ugly inside.
Really? Over 55,700 posts on killing babies and you are not ugly inside?

Get some counseling for your delusions please.
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Hi "Ink!"
How are you?
I'm feeling much better--thank you for your concern.
:)
My friend, I fear you've misunderstood "Michelle's" post(or perhaps I have!)
She wasn't--I believe--referring to "Gtown's" so-called "qualifications," but his rather "sneering," "condescending," "judgmental" attitude towards those whom are "guilty" of the same "sins" that he's already admitted to being guilty of...
Could be some of his posts were like that. It is hard to be in a place that you think is better than where you were before and not sound judgemental because you are in effect, judging your old lifestyle.

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