Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 309852 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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SapphireBlue

Orlando, FL

#284915 Feb 19, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
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Omg you're pathetic. The world consists of more than "liberals" and those with whom you agree with. Are you capable of keeping an open mind or do your preconceived notions of everything own your life?
Just kidding...

There are, in fact, intellectual liberals who can argue their points of view without demonizing someone else's or marginalizing them in an effort to destroy their character.

They're harder and harder to find, but they do exist. I happen to like them and respect their opinions. Wish there were more.
feces for jesus

Westbury, NY

#284916 Feb 19, 2013
SapphireBlue wrote:
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Emotional/mind...same thing.
But just so there's no further confusion. It's the physical, mental and spiritual sides of the triangle.
Mind, body, spirit is probably easier to remember.
Emotion and intellect are two very different things. Your theory is warped.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#284918 Feb 19, 2013
Prove the existence of--or even define--spirituality.
SapphireBlue wrote:
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I was wrong about the intellect side.
It's really a Physical, Mental and Spiritual Triangle.
Or mind, body, spirit.
Some substitute social for spiritual.
Only three sides. Physiology isn't considered one of the sides necessary for well-being.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#284919 Feb 19, 2013
Many states have voucher programs in which the state gives parents money if they wish to have their kids go to non-public schools.

My taxes go to pay for children that aren't mine; why should I pay for that? My taxes could be much lower if churches paid their fair share, and we certainly shouldn't be paying for faith-based initiatives.
SapphireBlue wrote:
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War falls under the Department of Defense, a Constitutional entity.
However, I don't believe your tax dollars fund private schools.
If vouchers were implemented and parents actually had a choice in where to send their own children for an education, that might be the case.
But, for some reason, most democrats want to keep them in crappy and/or inner city schools.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#284921 Feb 19, 2013
The drone program serves a purpose and will help save pilots' lives. Our involvement in the middle east is ultimaely futile; if they didn't have oil, we wouldn't give a tinker's dam what they did.
SapphireBlue wrote:
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Vouchers are implemented in only 10 states presently.
Not sure how much of our federal tax dollars goes to these states or if each state funds their own.
Are you also against the present wars going on and the accelerated drone program?

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#284922 Feb 19, 2013
Really? Explain all the PP clinics that don't provide abortion services. They still stay open.

No way to keep track? You've never heard of accounting?
SapphireBlue wrote:
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We can dance around the issue until our feet get tired. But you cannot deny that abortions are a primary service of Planned Parenthood. And even though it is against the law for our our tax dollars to fund these abortions, there is no way to keep track of it.
SapphireBlue

Orlando, FL

#284923 Feb 19, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Prove the existence of--or even define--spirituality.
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It's kind of like explaining why our brain remembers things and plays back our memories like a CD.

Even if I could explain it, you wouldn't understand it.

But it's basically believing in something greater than ourselves.
SapphireBlue

Orlando, FL

#284924 Feb 19, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Really? Explain all the PP clinics that don't provide abortion services. They still stay open.
No way to keep track? You've never heard of accounting?
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The government can't keep track of SS disability claims and sends millions of dollars to dead people.

The government couldn't keep track of where 1 million dollars of ACORN's money went. Turns out it was stolen.

The government really can't keep track of anything. Much less every penny sent to PP.

But speaking of accounting, sure would be nice if our government could do that with a budget.
SapphireBlue

Orlando, FL

#284925 Feb 19, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
The drone program serves a purpose and will help save pilots' lives. Our involvement in the middle east is ultimaely futile; if they didn't have oil, we wouldn't give a tinker's dam what they did.
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If GW Bush had accelerated the drone program and innocents were being blown up creating a new kind of animosity against the U.S., would you still have posted this?

Be honest.

You don't think terrorism is a real threat? It's all a ploy to get more oil?

If the UK had not refined Iran's oil, it would have been useless.

Most of our oil comes from other parts of the world - mostly Canada, Latin America and Africa.
SapphireBlue

Orlando, FL

#284926 Feb 19, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Many states have voucher programs in which the state gives parents money if they wish to have their kids go to non-public schools.
My taxes go to pay for children that aren't mine; why should I pay for that? My taxes could be much lower if churches paid their fair share, and we certainly shouldn't be paying for faith-based initiatives.
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Paying for public education prevents uneducated children from becoming uneducated adults. An educated society serves us all.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#284927 Feb 19, 2013
SapphireBlue wrote:
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National security is a given. Like roads and police protection. Ridding the world of a threat to civilization when the opportunity arises is also a given. It serves us all.
Abortions are by and large a result of bad choices. It serves only the ones who made them.
No comparison.
The right of individuals to make one's own medical decisions serves us all.
SapphireBlue

Orlando, FL

#284928 Feb 19, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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The right of individuals to make one's own medical decisions serves us all.
Unfortunately, we have a mindset in this country nowadays where the majority actually believe the government should make those decisions for us.

Even more unfortunate is this administration is more than happy to do so.
feces for jesus

Westbury, NY

#284929 Feb 19, 2013
SapphireBlue wrote:
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Just kidding...
There are, in fact, intellectual liberals who can argue their points of view without demonizing someone else's or marginalizing them in an effort to destroy their character.
They're harder and harder to find, but they do exist. I happen to like them and respect their opinions. Wish there were more.
Your name calling is duly noted, you silly lttle hypocrite.
STO

Vallejo, CA

#284930 Feb 19, 2013
lil Lily wrote:
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STO: "You won't answer my questions because you've garbled yourself into a corner."
I did answer your question becauuse I know what I'm talking about and didn't back myself into any corner.
STO: "I asked you WHAT the differentiating factors were.
AND I asked you: "How does a fetus survive with ALS? IOW, how does one apply artificial life support to a fetus? "
In a post following the one you responded to I made it clear:
~"If a fetus is viable, it won't die once removed from its ntural life support/the womb, even if it needs ALS once born, to survive.
If a newborn infant is viable, it won't just survive with ALS, but survive once removed from it."~
Viable FETUS and viable INFANT are 2 different stages of life.
A fetus doesn't survive on ALS. A fetus survives on NLS = natural life support/the womb. Viability of that fetus is determined BEFORE removing it from its natural life support...the womb.
Once born, it's an infant that needs or doesn't need ALS. If it needs ALS, the determination of whether or not it's a viable INFANT, will be made BEFORE removing it from it artificial life support.
Determining viability of the FETUS has nothing to do with being born and needing to "reach viability", surviving as a born infant without ALS, as Katie, Chicky and some other PCers have claimed.
The fetus already reaches viability IN UTERO. It can't be born to "reach viability" as some PCers have claimed, because once born, it's not a fetus. It's PCers who made the claim about a fetus needing to "reach viability" once born, who backed themselves into a corner with their own ignorance.
How does RvW's definition of viability of a FETUS and abortion have anything to do with a born infant reaching viability? It doesn't. That's where the PC claims about being born and "reaching viability" is proven to be mind boggling stupidity.
These are your statements, lilLynne:

You wrote:

"Viability of an already born infant is also about POTENTIAL, and when doctors see a potential for that born infant to survive with medical help..."

In a prior post, you said, and I quoted you ver batim:

"That's not the same as viability of a newborn infant, because the newborn infant is already ~outside of the womb~, so it would be about potential of the newborn infant to survive without medical help."

^^^These two statements are contradictory.^^^

You can run from it and ignore the fact I exposed your confusion or stupidity from now on, but it won't change the fact that you contracidted yourself.

Now you're ignoring what you wrote, below:

lil Lily wrote:
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"If a [fetus] is viable, then once removed from it's NLS (the womb), and helped with ALS, it will be able to survive and continue to survive on ALS."

If a [born infant] is viable then, even if it's on ALS for a time, it will eventually be able to survive without it."

Look at your statement number 1. If a fetus is removed from the womb and helped with ALS it IS AN INFANT, BORN INFANT,

If a BORN INFANT is on ALS it is still a BORN INFANT.

There is NO DIFFERENCE

**********

You won't acknowledge your own statements. Ignore them and they will go away. Go on, now. No one expects honesty from you.
Ocean56

AOL

#284931 Feb 19, 2013
SapphireBlue wrote:
You didn't read how PP crunches the numbers in its entirety. The bottom line was one in three visited Planned Parenthood for a pregnancy test, and of those, a little under one in three had a Planned Parenthood abortion.
So what. I went to Planned Parenthood quite often when I was 18+ and had just moved to a big city. I knew that if I chose to have sex at some point, I DIDN'T want to get pregnant, so I needed reliable contraception to PREVENT that unwanted outcome. They charged very LITTLE money for that contraception, and I was very grateful to get it. I would have had to pay MORE anywhere else.

The Planned Parenthood facility I went to was terrific. The medical staff were very knowledgable and helpful, they answered all my questions on preventing unwanted pregnancy and STD's, and finally set me up with the contraception that I felt would work best for me. Thanks to Planned Parenthood and its wonderful staff, I never got pregnant before the time when I WANTED to become a mother, which wasn't until my 30's. I never got a sexually transmitted disease either. I went OFF birth control when I decided I was ready for the responsibility.

I strongly suggest that teens be sexFREE (free FROM sex) while in middle or high school. Even with the use of birth control and condoms, unwanted pregnancy is still possible. Must protection always be used if for any reason a teen girl or guy decides to have sex? ABSOLUTELY, and EVERY time too. Is that protection a GUARANTEE a girl will never get pregnant? Absolutely NOT. All birth control methods can and do fail occasionally. When BC fails and a pregnancy results, it is still the girl's/woman's decision whether to continue it or not.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#284932 Feb 19, 2013
SapphireBlue wrote:
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Spreading the gospel goes back as far as 33 A.D.
Believers are in every part of the world - some still face persecution and/or have to worship in secret.
We just take our freedoms for granted.
Since the earliest gospel was written between 65 and 75 A.D., no, spreading it does not go "back as far as 33 A.D.".

Spreading the beliefs of the religion made sense when the religion was new, and the only form of real communication was word of mouth taken from place to place. Do you REALLY think anyone here, utilizing the internet, hasn't heard of Christianity, and doesn't know what it's about?

What point telling people something they already know, or have access to the knowledge if they want to learn it?
Ocean56

AOL

#284933 Feb 19, 2013
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
That's on the parents. And given the general level of ignorance in society regarding sex education, that's NOT shocking. When we have generations of ignorant young parents passing on their LACK of knowledge to their kids, its a recipe for disaster.
Exactly. Bristol Palin is only ONE famous example of these teen pregnancy disasters. I seriously doubt that Mommy Sarah taught Bristol anything other than "just say no." We all know how well THAT approach "works."
Katie

Spanaway, WA

#284934 Feb 19, 2013
SapphireBlue wrote:
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Unfortunately, we have a mindset in this country nowadays where the majority actually believe the government should make those decisions for us.
Even more unfortunate is this administration is more than happy to do so.
You mean like you used the federal gov't as a scapegoat for PP's accounting because their numbers aren't showing what you want these to show? And that's PP using more federal dollars on abortion when they aren't. Not too subtle on your part there, SB.
STO

Vallejo, CA

#284935 Feb 19, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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The verses were about a jealous husband, and the results of a wife who was cheating and lying, and the results of a wife who was not cheating nor lying.
You say the "NEGATIVE " side effects of the abortion happened to the woman who was lying and cheating.
Yet the innocent woman was cleared to become pregnant after her good name was cleared, so what you are trying to say the verses say makes absolutely no sense.
Even if those verses said, OR EVEN HINTED, that an abortion took place, then women today would have to be jewish, and go through all that was gone through in those verses to obtain an abortion. Even after their baby was aborted, their thigh would also rot, and they are to be shunned by all people, plus they must only be aborting a baby from an affair they had outside of their marriage.
And the entire point in bringing it up was to show the LAW, a LAW given by YHVH. The LAW of Jealousies. Because it was a LAW implemented by GOD, Himself, means HE gave one set of circumstances in which abortion was justified.



“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#284936 Feb 19, 2013
SapphireBlue wrote:
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The government can't keep track of SS disability claims and sends millions of dollars to dead people.
The government couldn't keep track of where 1 million dollars of ACORN's money went. Turns out it was stolen.
The government really can't keep track of anything. Much less every penny sent to PP.
But speaking of accounting, sure would be nice if our government could do that with a budget.
Explain all the PP clinics that don't perform abortions.

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