Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 340996 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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Tom Tom

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#274332 Jan 3, 2013
Conservative Democrat wrote:
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I'm going to make an attempt of explaining this to you, in the hopes that you still have a neuron, or two, active in your brain.
It's interesting how you take the word of an atheist (no pun intended Bobby) to prove your theism and your bigotry towards Jews and Judaism.
Bobby's interpretation, while not entirely incorrect, leaves out a very important qualifying word (again, no disrespect to you Bobby); MAY.
Every person with an iota of knowledge of the English language knows that what a person "may," or "may not" do, isn't a testament to what can, or cannot be done, or to what is mandated, or is not mandated. Judaism teaches that while the unborn's life, as potential human life, is valuable and it "may not" be terminated "casually," the life of the unborn does not have as much value as a life in existence. As such, it isn't superior to the life of the mother.
Bobby's post expressly states that Judaism does not forbid abortion.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/abortion/T833...
And here is where the meaning of "may" hits the nail on the head; a woman "may" terminate her pregnancy by way of abortion, if on her own she determines that the abortion isn't being done as a "casual" way of controlling birth. Two examples of abortion being "casually" would be if a promiscuous single Jewish woman engaged in unprotected sex, got pregnant and didn't want to carry the pregnancy to term because she wanted to continue having sex with multiple partners, or if a woman had committed adultery and ended up pregnant from her adulterous affair and wanted an abortion so her husband would not find out about the affair. In both cases neither could have an abortion, under the caveat that Judaism does not forbid either from having an abortion.
Contrary to Catholicism, Judaism does not forbid birth control. In fact, the preferred form of birth control in Judaism, is the birth control pill. Judaism does, however, limit the type of birth control that can be used. Judaism teaches that any form of birth control that either destroys the man's "seed" or blocks its passage, is forbidden for the purpose of birth control. As such, with regard to birth control alone, condoms, diaphragms, and the like, are not permitted by Jewish law. However, many believe that if a man is infected with HIV or HSV II (and having an active outbreak of it) and is married, he "may" not abstain from sex. In the interest of preventing a spread of the infection, he can use a condom to have sex with his wife. Since Judaism teaches that sex is the woman's right and not the man's right, a man cannot deprive his wife of sex, if she asks for it. The opposite of this (if the woman was the one infected with HIV or HSV II and is having an active outbreak) is also true.
To surmise, Judaism does not forbid abortion and only restricts it so that it is not used as a "casual" means of avoiding carrying a pregnancy to term.
Hopefully you'll be in a better position to understand the meaning behind Bobby's post. In the alternative, you're welcome to do your own research on Judaism, if you believe I'm incorrect.
You and the foobot are backdelaing you butts off trying to get around what pasturtized bubba said is the "real" Jewish position.

You are kizzing his azz hoping he will come on and bail you put.

Gotta love it.
Tom Tom

Allentown, PA

#274333 Jan 3, 2013
Conservative Democrat wrote:
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Well then, you're the first xtian who says I'm not going to hell. Can I quote you on that????
Redemption is possible for all, even you.

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#274335 Jan 3, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Quick English grammer lesson for you.
http://www.englishclub.com/grammar/nouns-prop...
We get your point about Jesus, foo.
Clearly you dont if you feel a need to lecture about capitalization.

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#274336 Jan 3, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Who said anything about a sinful nature? We said little kids lie on their own. Sometimes is the most amusing ways. We, parents have to teach them to own up. Why take a simple comment and turn it into a stupid disscussion of 'the sinful children'? Guess you have nothing else to do.
Wow. Inkstain is playing stupid again. Shocker.

Go back and follow the discussion you idiot. It started when a poster claimed that children are BORN knowing how to lie because of original sin.

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#274337 Jan 3, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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Many are taught the wrong thing, when it comes to evolution and Jesus Christ.
That's your OPINION nothing more. Others believe YOU were taught the "wrong thing". The FACT is nobody can say who's "right or wrong" when it comes to spirituality.
Satan is the god of this world,
Uh no. Satan isn't a "g-d" at all, of ANY world. ESPECIALLY not of YOUR faith.
and has many religions -
Incorrect again. Only Christianity and Islam believe in Satan as an entity. Christianity represents Satan as a fallen angel, & Islam represents him as a djinn.

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#274338 Jan 3, 2013
Ink wrote:
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You may not know the names but you 'should' know the work.
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/his...
ROFLMAO You're giving a link to a second rate biased book about christianity to try to tell me I should know the work of the dude who's name nobody's ever heard of?

ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! You're an idiot Inkstain.

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#274339 Jan 3, 2013
sassylicious wrote:
<quoted text> If that womans choice is to electively kill,then you support that death/killing.
Says who? I certainly never said that. Jesus cries when you lie.
Judaism forbids it.
You don't. You want a woman to have that choice to keep or kill her child.
Judaism agrees with allowing those women to have their choice.

Try actually READING the offical view of the American Jewish Congress this time Skanky. Its been publiished in the newspapers and stands as the view of MOST Jews to this day.

Dear Friends,
Did you know that abortion can be a religious requirement? Not just
permitted, but required!
In some religious traditions, if the fetus endangers the life of the
mother, abortion is not a matter of choice; it is mandatory!
The conflict over abortion is not between "secularists" and "religionists,"
between "moral" people who value life and "immoral" people who do
not, but between different moral traditions, different understandings of
the sacredness of life.
According to some religious traditions, the sacredness of life can be
diminished far more by callousness to those already born than to the unborn,
however precious their promise.
These religious traditions believe that the sacredness of life requires
in some circumstances that the woman's well-being takes precedence over
that of the fetus.
Legislation that denies a woman's choice is objectionable not because
it limits some abstract notion of unrestrained freedom, but because it may
inflict irreparable damage to the human dignity of the woman who is carrying
the fetus.
Judaism affirms that nascent life has great value.
But it is not the only value.
In the face of the kind of desperation that drives women to risk their
lives and mutilate their bodies rather than carry the fetus to term, no one
has the right to say that other conflicting values do not exist.
When faced with such conflicting values, individuals should be able
to turn to their own moral traditions or religious faith for guidance.
Government has no business preempting that very personal process,
leaving women trapped without a choice.
We do not propose that a particular religious view of abortion find
expression in legislation. That would be violating someone else's religious
freedom. And many people's moral choices regarding abortion are deeply
personal, and not determined by any particular religious tradition.
In the face of such great moral and religious diversity, the proper role
of government in a free society is to allow different traditions to advocate
their respective views, and to leave the decision to the woman, answering
to God and to her conscience.

http://www.violence.de/ajc/ajc.pdf

It was introduced and REINTRODUCED a number of times to the Senate Judiciary Committee as the question has come up in politics.
How can you say that you are a practicing Jew?
Easy. Becasue I am.

How can YOU claim to be a christian, when you clearly violate EVERYTHING your jesus stands for?

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#274340 Jan 3, 2013
sassylicious wrote:
<quoted text>I know what he said. As per usual,you jump in head first in attack mode without actually comprehending what was said.
He is specifically making the false claim that "MOST JEWS BELIEVE THAT ABORTINS MAY BE WARRANTED" and that is false.
That is NOT false, its FACTUAL which is why its reserved as a REQUIREMENT by our faith in certain situations.
ALL practicing/authentic Jews don't support killing/abortion.
Yes Skanky, if they're following their faith, ALL "authentic" as you say, Jewish people DO realise that occasions exist where abortion MAY be warranted.
Let me explain further.
Dont bother, because all you're doing is lying.

Here's the facts. Its an ACCEPTED REQUIREMENT of the Jewish faith that abortion MAY be warranted, and IF it is - as determined by a doctor and a rabbi, it's a REQUIREMENT to save a woman's life.

There is no such thing as an "authentic Jew". If a person is Jewish, they're Jewish - period. There's no such nasty distinctions within the Jewish faith as your kind create for Catholics that dont live up to your expectations such as "cafeteria" or whatever. There ARE different denominations from Humanist, Reform, Conservative, Orthodox, Ultra Orthodox, etc... The Jewish laws are the Jewish laws, and the Jewish law regarding abortion is someting that doesn't change.

The FACT IS that Jews simply dont have the theological issues Catholics do with abortion. Period.

Now you can try to twist that to your hearts content, you certainly have ZERO respect for the beliefs of other faiths in this regard, so I dont actually expect you to 'get it'. However others reading here do and WILL get it, so I dont mind repeating this stuff now and again as you feel a need to make an ass of yourself repeatedly by trying to invalidate and demean the Jewish faith.

The saddest part is you only demean and invalidate yourself and your own views when you do this.

Carry on Skanky.

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#274341 Jan 3, 2013
sassylicious wrote:
<quoted text> My "fuckedup religon's view"? Ummm....your daughter is a Christian and so is your so called wife so I guess we share the same "fuckedup *religon*" huh?
You're not a christian, and thus I'm not refering to my daughter OR my wife's faith.

Neither one is Catholic, they dont believe in that bullshit either.

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#274342 Jan 3, 2013
sassylicious wrote:
<quoted text>You claim to be a practicing Jew. Jews forbid elective abortion,while you support a womans right to electively abort.
Nope, I support her right to make her own choice.

Whether or not I support the choice she makes is irrelevant as its none of my business, but would depend on the circumstances.
BULL that they don't want elective abortions made illegal. Stop making things up to suit your pro-death agenda. You fool nobody but yourself and other wishy washy people.
Oh fkoff Skanky. I"m not making a thing up, but YOU are. I just posted the OFFICAL view of the American Jewish Congress which makes it VERY clear they and the Faith as a leadership does NOT SUPPORT MAKING ABORTION ILLEGAL. The Jewish faith's leadership and MOST of its members would NOT support abortion being made illegal as I've proven time and again, since our faith makes it a REQUIREMENT under certain circumstances.

You can say "bull" until a cow pisses in your mouth for all I care, its the FACTS of my faith. Period.

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#274343 Jan 3, 2013
sassylicious wrote:
<quoted text>""" "most women who have abortions go on to live their lives without remorese or guilt about it""""
That is an outright lie.
Says who Skanky? You're anti-choice websites? LOL
Gtown71

United States

#274344 Jan 3, 2013
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
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That's your OPINION nothing more. Others believe YOU were taught the "wrong thing". The FACT is nobody can say who's "right or wrong" when it comes to spirituality.
<quoted text>
Uh no. Satan isn't a "g-d" at all, of ANY world. ESPECIALLY not of YOUR faith.
<quoted text>
Incorrect again. Only Christianity and Islam believe in Satan as an entity. Christianity represents Satan as a fallen angel, & Islam represents him as a djinn.
That's my whole point -my Rightousness, is not something I was taught, it is something that was "imputed " to me by God Himself.

The night I was saved (born again), I was justified in the eyes of God.

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#274345 Jan 3, 2013
sassylicious wrote:
<quoted text>Laws change. What is legal today might be illegal tommorow (and vice versa). So don't get to hung up on what MAN makes legal or illegal. God gave us a commandment NOT to kill. You know. I know.
You dont know shit. THere is no commandment to not kill.

The commandment is to not MURDER.

WHy do you feel a need to ignore FACTS when you bring this shit up over and over like a demented Energizer bunny?.

The law will not EVER make abortion "murder". Never has, never will.

But feel free to hold your breath while you wait for that shit Skanky. LOL!

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#274346 Jan 3, 2013
sassylicious wrote:
<quoted text> Ask Bobby. He will tell you the truth. As wackie as that guy is,he at least is honest enough to tell us what *I* have been saying all along-coming STRAIGHT from the word of God in the bible,Rabbis,and quite a few Jewish friends.
YOU support killing as choice. Judaism doesn't. You CLEARLY are not a "practicing Jew".
Do you think if you keep repeating the same lie over and over it will magically become true?

I do NOT support "killing as choice". I support the right of women to make their OWN choice. Period.

Stop lying already you freak.

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#274347 Jan 3, 2013
sassylicious wrote:
<quoted text> Satan roams the world seeking the ruin of souls..
Well you're soul is as fkd up as it gets, he's getting feast off you and No Relevance.

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#274348 Jan 3, 2013
No Relativism wrote:
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88% of Jewish-Americans support a woman's right to choose abortion.
"Life of mother" is the reason given for 0.1% of abortions. http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/aborti...
98% of abortions are performed for personal choice/convenience (i.e. elective).
"Woman's right to choose" for 99.9% of abortions does not fall in line with Foo's/Grumpy's Judaic contention of "may be necessary for life of mother" gobbledygook.
In other words, 88% of Jews will permit 99.9%% of preborn baby executions in order to support the 0.1% of abortions for "life of mother"?
If this is what foo & grumpy are saying, then they are basically calling their own Jewish-Americans imbeciles.
THank you for showing YOUR ignorance about the Jewish faith too No Relevance!

Actually, NO percent of Jews will "permit" anything of the kind. Its not up to them to forbid it, nor do they wish to try to tell others what to do.

That's YOUR kind's perview.

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#274349 Jan 3, 2013
sassylicious wrote:
<quoted text> Katie,foo(l)supports a womans choice to electively abort.
For Christ's sake, stop lying about what I support or dont support already. Do you EVER stop lying??

I support a woman's right to make her own medical choices PERIOD.

Nothing more. Nothing less. Stop trying to put words in my mouth, because you're frankly REALLY bad at it.

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#274350 Jan 3, 2013
sassylicious wrote:
<quoted text>What grumpy and foo are saying is one thing. They are CLEARLY not practicing Jews,...hence my comment that ALL REAL JEWS DON'T. The Jews that he refers to-along with those that you quote above are not REAL/AUTHENTIC practicing Jews. They are merely JINO's.
No different then the CINO's who claim that they support abortion rights while being a Catholic.
Oh Skanky, get off your sanctimonioius high horse already. Seriously. You're as PHONY a catholic as it gets. Who the hell are you to say what kind of Jews Grumpy or I or anyone else is, when YOU dont practice your OWN faith?

You disrespect and befoul EVERYHING - and I do mean EVERYTHING that Catholicism and Jesus is supposed to stand for. You're a g-d damn POS who takes EVERY opportunity to cut down poeple of other faiths at EVERY opportunity, you LIE about other faiths even when you've REPEATEDLY been shown the FACTS about other faiths, you bear false witness and you have absoloutely NO remorse about your lies.

And you have to NERVE to criticise OTHERS?? You're a damn joke.

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#274351 Jan 3, 2013
HuskerDu wrote:
<quoted text>Look it up, we don't go around and say a person was possessed publicly , but there are cases out there like the little boy from Iowa which the Exorcist movie was based on. My former Bishop talked about how on a very hot summer day, a man was walking on the walls and hissing while the temp inside the house read twenty below. There are legit books out there about exorcisms.
ROFLMAO

Yeah. The most famous one was written by William Peter Blatty. PBFA and I had lunch with him a few years ago when she came to Balitmore to visit. VERY cool guy.

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You're a moron Knutter.

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#274352 Jan 3, 2013
Ink wrote:
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I have posted from many Jewish sites about Jewish teaching on abortion and nowhere does it say they agree with abortion on demand. I see that it is only allowed if the mother's live or health is in danger and only after consultation with family and Rabbi. It isn't taken lightly.
You haven't posted SHIT about Jewish teaching on abortion Inkstain, I however have.

Here is the site with the OFFICAL AMERICAN JEWISH VIEW on abortion, its history and its theology. I've posted this LITERALLY over 50 times, only to have you and your idiot friend IGNORE it and make shit up as you go along.

http://www.rabbinicalassembly.org/search/node...

NOBODY HERE HAS EVER CLAIMED THEY SUPPORT OR AGREE WITH ABORTION ON DEMAND.

Why are you two idiots arguing about something NOT ONE PERSON HERE HAS EVER CLAIMED?

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