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Vic

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You did a excellent job raising your boys I know it was hard to do without your man. Boys need their mothers when they are young but as they get into teen years that's when they lean and learn from Dad. My husband and son work together everyday and have since he graduated high school. We didn't worry about him not going to college cause construction as you know way flying high. Money,Money,Money then poof that big ole bubble popped and we like so many had over extended and we're stuck but we just get up everyday and keep on keeping on.
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We had two boys they were 2 years apart in age. Kirt,my angel had just turned eighteen had worked saved and had his truck 2 months when he was killed in car wreck. I have an angel on his headstone, I placed her there in memomy of Haleigh.
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We had two boys they were 2 years apart in age. Kirt,my angel had just turned eighteen had worked saved and had his truck 2 months when he was killed in car wreck. I have an angel on his headstone, I placed her there in memomy of Haleigh.
Aww Vic, I am just SO sorry. I don't know how I could live with losing one of my sons, I really don't. I don't think I'd ever be able to raise my head again from my pillow. I would die there. Oh God, I have lived with it and worried about it all these years as both my sons have taken some very reckless chances with their lives and still do. Yet they come thru for mama.

Honest to God, but for HIS Almighty Hand, His compassion for me and love for them, neither one of them could have made it this far. They are both very intelligent, are college educated and have careers; all bought and paid for by mama. My oldest son was a straight 4.0 and on the Woodhouse Register of who's who academically in America and with commendations from senators and congressmen, yet is stupid with his life.

Even now, I pray constantly, Oh God, take care of them, they don't have sense enough to take care of themselves, please, I beg you, in Jesus name. Everyone thinks I am a very strong person, but I'm really not. In business, yes, very strong and never flinching; and in speaking out for the poor, blacks, and those weaker ones who are mistreated for whatever reason, for the right thing and against the wrong; yes, maybe so. But not in close death matters. This is where I completely crumble.

I admire you so Vic, for being able to go on after losing your son, and him so young. God bless you and your family Vic. I know, like me, you will do it all to help your son, his sons and the dogs. Yes, you will have to find him/them a place to live, like I've had to do many times, and then help pay for it, or pay for it entirely like I've done quite a few times, plus pay the mover to move them there; or move them back home. I'd do it all again, just as you would.
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GM Annie, Vic & All!

Oh, Vic I'm so, so, very, sorry to hear about you losing your son.That had to be so very had for you. I hope you're able to find your son and gc a place to live near you soon. God Bless you & your family, sweetie!

Annie, glad to see you're back & hope you're feeling better. Your sons & step-children sound like wonderful kids. IA with Vic, you did a great job raising them. I'm happy to hear your son will be with you soon. That will be nice & good for both of you. P.S. I was just in Cincy this summer for my eldest sons bb tourney. My husband wasn't able to go, but I took my son & daughter & my other son stayed home to help his father. We always have fun @ the out of town tourneys with all the kids & families whereever we go. However, I can't stand the OH roads. You go from a freeway to a one lane rounding, hilly, country road with lil notice and they drive me crazy & make me late...lol
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Breaks my heart your all alone. You need somebody with you now,is there anyway he could come today. I know you and you don't tell him how bad you get, do you? No, but you need to. The Good Lord's got you, Anne, Our Heavenly Father is holding you tight in his arms. Close your eyes and give all your pain to Him and when you feel stronger put those fingers to typing cause we here will be waiting patiently for your prose, especially your GMS narrative.xoxoxo
Vic, your words comfort me so. I don't mind at all being alone here. I have the angels and Jesus here with me and am perfectly content. Sometimes I see a tiny little light darting past me, or a simple little wind blowing out of nowhere, and I know. I am not alone. It is peaceful here. Sometimes I listen to the beautiful hymnals on the radio as if they were being sung by the angels and that brings me great peace too.

Also have a loaded .38 under my pillow and the house is kept locked. My yardman has a key and knows that if he can't reach me he can come in, and does occasionally. He called me just night before last and told me that anytime I might need him to come and spend the night, just call him and he would come. But I like being here alone, I really do.

No, I do not tell either one of my sons everything. I have always kept a few secrets from them; a mother has to use her own good judgment rather than tell them lies, or make waves that could lead to even worse things happening. Sometimes it's best to say nothing. I am able to see at a further distance than they can and have kept so many secrets from them over the course of their lives that I wouldn't even know where to start. All for their own good, not mine. They don't need to know every little thing that they can't fix or change anyhow, but might make matters even worse than they are. See?

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GM Annie, Vic & All!
Oh, Vic I'm so, so, very, sorry to hear about you losing your son.That had to be so very had for you. I hope you're able to find your son and gc a place to live near you soon. God Bless you & your family, sweetie!
Annie, glad to see you're back & hope you're feeling better. Your sons & step-children sound like wonderful kids. IA with Vic, you did a great job raising them. I'm happy to hear your son will be with you soon. That will be nice & good for both of you. P.S. I was just in Cincy this summer for my eldest sons bb tourney. My husband wasn't able to go, but I took my son & daughter & my other son stayed home to help his father. We always have fun @ the out of town tourneys with all the kids & families whereever we go. However, I can't stand the OH roads. You go from a freeway to a one lane rounding, hilly, country road with lil notice and they drive me crazy & make me late...lol
OH SHYT. Yes, I am feeling a little better this morning, but forgot to take the f'kn' nausea pill! Shyt, shyt, shyt. Forgive my bad language. Will move past it and try to come back a little later...
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Oh, eye, take those meds so you won't feel so bad. Your shyt, shyt, shyt made me lol again. Hope you feel better.
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Oh, eye, take those meds so you won't feel so bad. Your shyt, shyt, shyt made me lol again. Hope you feel better.
Sami, I want you to know that if I had a way to do it that didn't cost so much, I would ship every one of these cans of Strawberry Ensure up there to you for your husband if you want them. I have approx. 80 of the strawberry cans left and I will never touch another one. Let me know if you can figure out a cheap way to ship them and I'll git 'her done.

I've always loved strawberry but this is it. Damn strawberry. It was the sickening strawberry that caused the problem this morning. After that, the nausea pill didn't even work for the rest of the day. Now I'm so hungry but afraid to eat. Everything I look at and think I might eat looks sickening, worse than being pregnant. P'ss on it. I guess I just won't eat.
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Oh Eye,
Bless your heart. We must have been posting same time. Call Dr and get a prescription for Merinol its pot in pill form and legal in alot of states, don't know about FLa. Ms Nancy was right on its wonderful for neausea and alot less hard on the body than the other pain killers Big Pharma and gov. ok's for pain. I'm sending up prayers for you now. I think so highly of you, I never posted anything much on here until everybody had gone, too many people got way too stupid especially that ole follow the money poster. YUCK too stupid for words. You gave it to Flip and I loved it/
Vic, I asked the radiologists yesterday about the use of Marinol (Merinol) in the treatment of pain & nausea.(I had already looked it up on the internet before I went out there, and found that it is legal in Fla, but also that no Fla doctors will prescribe it). They told me that it is actually used for maintaining weight for cancer patients who are too frail and weak to carry their weight.

Okay, so today I saw the Oncologist and asked him what's the deal with Marinol and why no Fla doctors will prescribe it? He said, "no, they don't and neither will I". He went on to say that it is only used for cancer patients when they are very frail, near death and not expected to live and "that's not you".(Glad to know I'm not near death! At least I hope not). But there you have it. I can't get the Marinol. But thank you honey, I appreciate any suggestion you make.
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Oh, and what your doc said about the not dying YEEEPee on what he said about Merinol horse shyt.
Well. HOw ugly. How mean to judge Vics' opinion above in such a rude manner. She's entitled to her opinion. Didcha ever stop to think that just MAYBE she had a positive experience with this medical miracle drug that you don't have an that just MAYBE you might learn something from it that just MIGHT benefit you someday? Sheeeesh....!
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How you feeling? Please, don't upset yourself over a peanut, in order for your poor body to heal you've got to be calm, mellow. Don't forget your meds.xoxoxo
Thank you Vic, I'm better this a.m., thank God. But I did cut down on the sleeping pills last night and only took one instead of two. I just HATE the sluggish feeling all day, caused by the s/p. To hell with it that I don't seep much. I'd rather feel alert for a little while than not at all. Okay, just took the nausea pill. And thank you!
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There isn't enough time for days/weeks to reiterate over again, each and every thing that PCLE did and did NOT do in their so-called investigation that pointed directly towards a cover up that protected RC and members of his family that PROVES they protected THEMSELVES and those they were covering up for in a very evil conspiracy that was conspired among themselves;

beginning with the FIRST call discussing (not reporting, but DISCUSSING at 2:13 a.m.) Haleighs' tragic fate that was made to the PCSO by a sneaky individual from RC's private landline ph in his MH to a private landline ph#/person within the SO, to another sneaky individual, who PLOTTED together to help this Cummings person to get all the evidence out of the MH, and how to coach and set up Misty Croslin.

It was right then that Misty was set up to take the fall and DID by making her hoaxed up call to 911 at 3:27 a.m., and stuck with variations of her lies; and it was then that media ALLOWED LE to run with these lies, when all they ever had to do was consider the evidence and LOOK at Ron's PRIOR lengthy criminal record and they would have seen FOR THEMSELVES that a cover up was in progress that protected themselves and RC from that moment on and to this day; just as he had always gotten off the hook for his felonies since he was a teenager; only THIS time it's a murder!

Not one of them or anyone else ever sought to root out this evil conspiracy or bother to get down to the REAL truth. They ALL played the game and continued to harp on Mistys' ridiculous lies while IGNORING the OBVIOUSLY guilty parties and THEIR LIES, right under their nose. They swatted at a gnat while swallowing a camel. I despise them all. F'kn cowards; could have rotted out this sinister conspiracy and SOLVED Haleigh's brutal muder AND uncovered the sinister evidence they were all hiding.
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WHATEVER was being stashed in Ron's MH, which I believe to be child porn, and/or possibly adult porn as well; involved LE and some of their higher ups. I do not believe it was a money maker per se' for RC. If it had been he (and other Cummings family members) would have been living much higher off the hog than he/they were; however, I DO believe they were getting some sort of lesser payoffs and other favors. And largely, PROTECTION.

Oh yeah, they hauled their sinister and evil evidence out of that MH the night Haleigh was murdered with TWO men there, dressed in black (the best he could tell), just like little butterbean said; ALL to the knowledge of Ronald Cummings, his mama and fat granny Sykes and OTHER members of that family who HELPED to haul out and dispose of the evil evidence, including Haleighs' body.

I believe those children were left alone for a time that day/early evening as Misty had already told TN that she had plans and would NOT be baby sitting. At some point skank TN went by a little later and found Haleigh either dead or dying and this is when Ron got the hysterical phone call at work and the plans were put in action to dispose of her and all the evidence. They had one hell-uv-a busy AND FRANTIC night!

The main payoff by LE had been the continuous protection of Ronald Cummings in all his drug crimes and court matters, including his battering of women and child abuses. For EVERYTHING Ron did in all those prior years, he got away with every bit of it. So how could this be? And THEN protected in the death of his daughter. NOW, he, Misty and others have been deliberately snagged in a set-up drug bust to keep them in prison and their mouths SHUT about LEs' involvement. Is everyone stupid but me? I don't think so.

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WHATEVER was being stashed in Ron's MH, which I believe to be child porn, and/or possibly adult porn as well; involved LE and some of their higher ups. I do not believe it was a money maker per se' for RC. If it had been he (and other Cummings family members) would have been living much higher off the hog than he/they were; however, I DO believe they were getting some sort of lesser payoffs and other favors. And largely, PROTECTION.
Oh yeah, they hauled their sinister and evil evidence out of that MH the night Haleigh was murdered with TWO men there, dressed in black (the best he could tell), just like little butterbean said; ALL to the knowledge of Ronald Cummings, his mama and fat granny Sykes and OTHER members of that family who HELPED to haul out and dispose of the evil evidence, including Haleighs' body.
I believe those children were left alone for a time that day/early evening as Misty had already told TN that she had plans and would NOT be baby sitting. At some point skank TN went by a little later and found Haleigh either dead or dying and this is when Ron got the hysterical phone call at work and the plans were put in action to dispose of her and all the evidence. They had one hell-uv-a busy AND FRANTIC night!
The main payoff by LE had been the continuous protection of Ronald Cummings in all his drug crimes and court matters, including his battering of women and child abuses. For EVERYTHING Ron did in all those prior years, he got away with every bit of it. So how could this be? And THEN protected in the death of his daughter. NOW, he, Misty and others have been deliberately snagged in a set-up drug bust to keep them in prison and their mouths SHUT about LEs'
involvement. Is everyone stupid but me? I don't think so.
When you wrote.......

I believe those children were left alone for a time that day/early evening as Misty had already told TN that she had plans and would NOT be baby sitting. At some point skank TN went by a little later and found Haleigh either dead or dying and this is when Ron got the hysterical phone call at work and the plans were put in action to dispose of her and all the evidence. They had one hell-uv-a busy AND FRANTIC night!

....Makes me think that Haleigh died accidently. I doubt anyone killed her on purpose. She was five years old, right? Kids that age (and her little brother's age, too) finally get tired of looking at TV. They get into stuff.. they climb. They open drawers. Haleigh or her brother found poison, over the counter meds, or an illegal drug, and they shared it and consumed it. The boy may not have swallowed as much, just made him very sleepy which is why he didn't remember much of what happened that night.

This would explain why the whole family might have been in on disposing her body. First of all, they would have been charged with neglect and secondly and most importantly of all, it would have been discovered that they has stashes of illegal substances all over that trailer. As it turned out, a few got thrown in prison anyway but not direct charges of child endangerment leading to the death of a child. If her body had been found, tests would have shown this, IMO. If they had confessed to that, more charges would have led to an even longer prison term and a LOT more people in the family would haven been incarcerated. It appears to me that nearly everyone in that family, from granny on down to the babies to make them sleep, were abusing drugs, and druggies will do ANYTHING to keep up their habit and to protect their sources for the drugs. I also have a hunch both Haleigh and Junior witnessed family members taking these drugs.

My opinion only.
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GM Annie, Vic, Ponderings & All! Annie, your above posts prove you have to stay well and keep your voice going. I would just love to hear ya in person.:)

lol, yea, tell Annie to forget the peanuts from the nut...lol

Ponderings, this can very well be the case. Whatever happened I do believe it was an accident of some sort. Either Ron and his bad temper while in a fight or like you & Annie said, those kids were let alone and Haleigh could have gotten into something or hurt herself. Drugs are a really good possibility cuz we know they all did drugs. Heck, they didn't even take a break from them after Haleigh was gone and the arrest prove this. imo, whatever happened, the Ron & family and Misty and some of her family knows. They know.
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Ponderings, you are entirely entitled to your opinions, which I DO respect. However, I am not referring to things that "could" have happened or speculation as to what "might" have happened; I am referring to absolute facts AND EVIDENCE that we KNOW happened that evening and in subsequent days, weeks and months that followed Haleigh's disappearance and the 'lack of' an investigation by LE of them all.

Try to stay with me on this and follow the facts. Forget "accident"; if this had been merely an "accident" there would have been NO NEED for any of the lying, subsequent covering up and continuing to lie and cover up. NOR would there be a need for PCLE to hide behind the Fla Sunshine Laws, claiming they are still searching for Haleigh, when they KNOW she is dead. With all due respect; xx00xx....
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GM Annie, Vic, Ponderings & All! Annie, your above posts prove you have to stay well and keep your voice going. I would just love to hear ya in person.:)
lol, yea, tell Annie to forget the peanuts from the nut...lol
Ponderings, this can very well be the case. Whatever happened I do believe it was an accident of some sort. Either Ron and his bad temper while in a fight or like you & Annie said, those kids were let alone and Haleigh could have gotten into something or hurt herself. Drugs are a really good possibility cuz we know they all did drugs. Heck, they didn't even take a break from them after Haleigh was gone and the arrest prove this. imo, whatever happened, the Ron & family and Misty and some of her family knows. They know.
With all due respect Sami; I also honor and respect your opinion and don't think that only mine has merit. I believe that there is more to this than any of us will ever know; AND as you and Ponderings allege, Haleigh's death could have been accidential, meaning that perhaps (IMO) that it was not premeditated; but the evidence of all the lies told by the Cummings family, the hoaxed up 911 call at 3:27 a.m., and the total set up of Misty and the ner'-do-well Croslins by the Cummings, AND the manner in which Haleigh and ALL the evidence was disposed of WITHOUT INVESTIGATION, does NOT point in that direction. It points to the plot of the murder of a child being covered up for reasons that were far more important to LE than the death of the child.

It points to something VERY sinister and THAT would not be drugs. Drugs are everywhere and easily obtained so what's the big deal about drugs? The accusation of drugs as being the cause of Haleighs' death could have easily been laid at Misty's feet, pointing the blame totally at Misty, AND IT WASN'T. She couldn't have done a thing about it had it been a simple matter of the kids getting into drugs. IMO and my honest belief; there could only be an underbelly conspiracy here, hatched out between the Cummings and PCLE due to something far worse than mere illegal drugs.

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Ponderings, you are entirely entitled to your opinions, which I DO respect. However, I am not referring to things that "could" have happened or speculation as to what "might" have happened; I am referring to absolute facts AND EVIDENCE that we KNOW happened that evening and in subsequent days, weeks and months that followed Haleigh's disappearance and the 'lack of' an investigation by LE of them all.
Try to stay with me on this and follow the facts. Forget "accident"; if this had been merely an "accident" there would have been NO NEED for any of the lying, subsequent covering up and continuing to lie and cover up. NOR would there be a need for PCLE to hide behind the Fla Sunshine Laws, claiming they are still searching for Haleigh, when they KNOW she is dead. With all due respect; xx00xx....
I respectfully disagree. IF Haleigh had been beaten to death, shot, etc, it would not have taken an overly experienced investigative team to find evidence in that trailer. Sorry for the graphics, but tid-bits of flesh, bone, blood, etc can NOT be wiped away with soap and water, and not even bleach. Forensic teams have devices and Luminol to pick up the signs of a murder, even if they lose some of the data or don't perform tests correctly. Unless someone took her way out in the country and did away with her, which I truly don't think happened here, my theory concerning a drug consumption by that child still stands.

Yes, in my opinion, whatever happened to Haleigh was an accident, and by that I mean that no one planned her demise. But there certainly WAS a reason for everyone to hide her and never come forward as to what happened. As an example; IF she had been supervised, but after her guardian (whoever it was supposed to be that night)thought she was asleep but she got up and got into the medicine cabinet, consumed a common OTC meds like Nyquil or whatever, then yes, no one would have tried to hide that type of incident. But they covered up her death because she consumed either an illegal substance, or, a prescription drug that NO one in the family had been prescribe to by a physician. As you know, this problem is rampant now in the U.S.

I do not believe her remains will ever be found, but I do think this is what happened and as far as I am concerned, the case is closed. I think LE knows this too; however, they cannot bring up charges against an individual in which there is no solid proof. This type of death is much easier to cover up because there are no open wounds leading to evidence. They know Haleigh very likely died of drugs, which is why they sped up their investigation and cracked the drug ring that both Ronald, Misty, and relatives were a part of. Authorities know that ALL of these people played a part in drug usage and dealing which led to Haleigh's death, and it is why they slammed the book at all of them, keeping them behind bars as long as possible, IMO.
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You have laid out a very intelligent case/possibility for Haleigh's death being an accidential drug overdose/death, Ponderings, which I respect; however, you have overlooked every one of the FACTS as if they never existed; as to the ensuing cover up and all the plots, schemes and lies that were hatched and told AFTER the fact, and HOW LE ignored every one of them; none of which would lead to an accidental drug overdose, or the investigation of an accidental drug overdose; illegal or otherwise.

But I've got to boogie for now, will get back to it another day, another time.

Have a good one all! x00xx....
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honestly, I don't know exactly how Haleigh died, I do believe she is dead and died that ngt. She could have been left alone and attacked or she could have been giving drugs to make her sleep do to know one staying there to watch her or she could have gotten into drugs or she could have been hurt or even shot during a fight or maybe Ron did hit her in one of his rages and this or an attack on her while left alone would not be an accident, neither would it be if she was purposely giving meds or drugs to make her sleep. the accident would be if she got into something herself or got hurt during a fight, but either way, Ron would be responsible for her death. iirc there were many calls between Misty & Ron that ngt. I'm sure the pings would have to show if Misty were at the trailer. I dunno, but I'm sure the Cummings all know. You don't welcome the last person who saw ur missing child/gc/ggc into your family and protect her when her story changed so many times. IMO she was coached and this is why she couldn't remember all of the stories/lies.

I hope they're all enjoying their days in prison cuz they sure have a lot of them to do.

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