Once slow-moving threat, global warmi...

Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 60096 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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“no one told me”

Since: Dec 07

Denver

#42297 Dec 30, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
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Nailed it.
If you want to stop killing hundreds of thousands of birds a year, we need to get started dismantling Boston, Chicago, Dallas/FW, San Francisco, and Miami.
He doesn't sound like a pro-growth guy....
Funny, in all my years in the big city I've never seen or heard of a bird killing itself running headlong into a building.

Is it common in your town? Must be something in the water.
Anti Christ

Minneapolis, MN

#42298 Dec 30, 2013
Warning:
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text> http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...

"I think you're a little sore since I screwed you."

"Didn't like it much, huh?"

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...

Maybe you're kristy when you visit Florida."

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
"Oh yeah, that's when you had your head up your ass!"
...
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
That's when you got the sore butthole.

Seems it's still a little raw, eh?
I think you're a little sore since I screwed you.

You strike me as someone who is easily impressed. Are you a college student, maybe a sophomore?

“no one told me”

Since: Dec 07

Denver

#42299 Dec 30, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
ZEALOT? HA!!!
I sheet in the milk of your having called-a me a zealot!
read these:

Exposed: The myth of the global warming 'pause'- Climate Change ...
www.independent.co.uk › News › Environment › Climate Change&#8206;
Nov 18, 2013 - Scientists can now explain the “pause” in global warming that sceptics have used to bolster their arguments. Sceptics had claimed we have ...
The Myth of Global Warming | Fox Business

www.foxbusiness.com/business-leaders/.../myth... ;
by Steve Tobak - in 46 Google+ circles
May 31, 2013 - Without the scientific method, we'd still be living in the Dark Ages. So what do you think global warming dogma says about our future?
Friends of Science | The Myths and Facts of Global Warming
www.friendsofscience.org/index.php... ;
Friends of Science presents news and scientific articles on the myths and facts surrounding global warming and climate change.

“no one told me”

Since: Dec 07

Denver

#42300 Dec 30, 2013
we don't need no steenking pipeline, do we boys and girls? Ostuida says we don't.

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Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#42301 Dec 31, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
A cost that doesn't exist now?!?!
Oz said there was no cost for no cost to 'green' energies. I showed otherwise.

Go back and read the thread, zealot.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#42302 Dec 31, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
ZEALOT? HA!!!
I sheet in the milk of your having called-a me a zealot!
Yup, zealot.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#42303 Dec 31, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Nailed it.
If you want to stop killing hundreds of thousands of birds a year, we need to get started dismantling Boston, Chicago, Dallas/FW, San Francisco, and Miami.
He doesn't sound like a pro-growth guy....
Nailed what, zealot?

How many windmills are there compared to buildings?

Gawd... warmists do love to cherry pick their data.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#42304 Dec 31, 2013
dont snow me wrote:
<quoted text>
What about the extra thick ice cap? A lie, right?
Have you sold your car yet?
Are you working on a wind powered automobile to get you around?
He's got a propeller on his beanie. We he runs really, really fast it spins and he flies.

VRROOM!

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#42306 Dec 31, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Nailed what, zealot?
How many windmills are there compared to buildings?
Gawd... warmists do love to cherry pick their data.
Boy is that is really the pot calling the kettle black, everything you deniers post are false claims off some blog or cherry picked data. Especially the flat lines on the warming graph.
The real irony of fossil fuel greed is spending the kids inheritance denying them the chance to enjoy the Earth's environment as you inherited it. That is the ultimate in greed, there is nothing to surpass that.
Giga

Fullerton, CA

#42307 Dec 31, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, it's blindingly obvious! There is no global warming outside your door right now.
You can go back to sleep now.
Go away troll.

“Grow the power within yourself”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#42308 Dec 31, 2013
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
Here we go, the ole Bald Eagle into wind turbine routine as tho it was a flag burning protest. The fact is there are more birds killed running into glass buildings and communication towers each year by a factor of 10. Google it and see for yourself, besides there are measures like in Norway where they are painting the tips of the blades black & white to make them more visible.
Then we have domestic cats which kill birds by the billion & lets not forget the power lines.
So it's a tired old argument trying to discredit wind farming as opposed to fossil fuel fracking and the damage it does.
Do you know what you sound like??! A super corporatist democrat parrot, that's all. Whether or not 1000 kids gets killed by falling nails from the sky every year gives me no excuse to kill one, or "happen to hit one, but not kill". What a pathetic rationale.

You environmentalist phonies are so full of it. Yeah, paint the tip of the windmills you fool. HAHAHA. Facts are simple, especially warm air currents attract the soaring species and they often soar straight into the windmills. I have even seen it and have a VIDEO of it from my phone.

And what do "domestic cats" have to do with this. Do you wanna kill them also? YOu liberals are totally free of ANY real sense of nature. All you guys think about and want is control control control control.

Otherwise, noticed you had nothing to say about all my other points about crony green energy and government destroying nature the most. Just like all other libtards, you appear to be nothing but a brainwashed fool.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#42309 Dec 31, 2013
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
Boy is that is really the pot calling the kettle black, everything you deniers post are false claims off some blog or cherry picked data. Especially the flat lines on the warming graph.
The real irony of fossil fuel greed is spending the kids inheritance denying them the chance to enjoy the Earth's environment as you inherited it. That is the ultimate in greed, there is nothing to surpass that.
Man, we've really stirred up the nest! I believe they have run into some undeniable truth, and it has driven them crazy mad.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#42310 Dec 31, 2013
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
Boy is that is really the pot calling the kettle black, everything you deniers post are false claims off some blog or cherry picked data. Especially the flat lines on the warming graph.
The real irony of fossil fuel greed is spending the kids inheritance denying them the chance to enjoy the Earth's environment as you inherited it. That is the ultimate in greed, there is nothing to surpass that.
Everything?

Irony?

Get a dictionary.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#42311 Dec 31, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Man, we've really stirred up the nest! I believe they have run into some undeniable truth, and it has driven them crazy mad.
Anyone care what a zealot believes?
Coal is King

Paducah, KY

#42313 Dec 31, 2013
From Clay Center, KY:

"That was a US News article not Fox. The Kyoto Protocol is open records, 3rd world counties do not fall under the carbon emissions restrictions. Don't know how Communist China got included as a 3rd world country but India and China can and will burn all the coal they can get their hands on.

We were counting on selling them some but the environmentalist liberal agenda is already fighting that. World consumption of coal will double by 2022 as we shut down our coal fired power plants. China brings a coal fired plant on line at a rate of about one a day. India is begging for coal, that is all over the internet and available for anyone that wants to look it up.

Obama and the EPA are killing our cheapest energy source and our economy for no good reason. Google Chinese coal production Figures and Coal consumption in India, you can research future trends and every report out there points to not only continued us of coal by China and India but they are increasing their reliance on coal.

Obama is destroying the Eastern Ky. Economy and the economy of the U.S. for no good reason. He will not reduce carbon emissions by one ton into the atmosphere, he might reduce it here in the U.S. and drive our energy prices higher in an already bad economy but China and India and the other 3rd world countries are allowed to burn coal by the Kyoto Protocol that he signed off on. Why would the U.S. cripple itself by not using our most abundant energy source while other nations are allowed to use it and in fact will double their consumption of coal.

This is not a sound environmentalist policy and it is the worst energy policy a sane government could ever think of. I can't believe our government would be so stupid as to purposely destroy the chance for is to become energy independent and purposely set about to destroy our economy. "
Coal is King

Paducah, KY

#42314 Dec 31, 2013
Voices from the coalfields.

From Clay Center, KY:

"China, India and third world countries are burning coal and will continue to do so, that is not in dispute, easy to confirm.

It is a scientific fact that the carbon and other elements China, India and the 3rd world countries pump into the atmosphere does not stay in their countries.

The Kyoto Protocol and our stupid EPA regs might have made more since it the burning of coal was banned world wide and every country had to stop burning it. As it stands the largest polluters will be able to burn as much coal as they want and will continue to increase the amount of coal they use.

What good does it do for the President and the EPA to stop our coal production and shut down our coal fired power plants when others are still pumping carbon into the atmosphere? Why are we the ones destroying our economy by driving electrical prices beyond what we will be able to afford with no viable alternative energy in sight? Why are we destroying our local economy and the countries economy for something that is not making one iota's worth of difference?

I know the big plan it to make coal so expensive that the renewables will be able to get a foothold in the energy market and for the government to rake in billions from the carbon tax. Thing is the renewable energy sources are not doable at this time and we are shutting down coal fired plants with no power generation from alternative sources to replace the Power We Lose. Yes they can shut down Louisa and AEP can buy power off the grid at a higher rate but how many coal fired plants can you shut down with nothing on line to replace the power you lose.

It is like a firing squad formed in a circle! The most absolute stupidest concept ever developed by a left wing Democrat. You keep taking power off line provided by coal and hoping power will become so expensive that the alternative sources will come on line. That is a dangerous GD gamble if no other renewable sources are made ready to step in as we lose coal fired powered power plants.

It takes years just to get a nuclear plant approved then 10 years or more to build one. It takes years to get a hydroelectric dam approved and years to build one. You can't have solar when the sun don't shine and you can't put the grid on batteries at night when it don't. Just a stupid concept that no one understands how it got this far with anyone with any common sense not stopping this nonsense before he destroys the country.

He is not making a nickels worth of difference on carbon emissions into the atmosphere because he can't make India and China quit burning it.

He will not reap billions in carbon tax because it is just cheaper for a utility to just shut down the coal fired plant and say to hell with it. He will not see any of the renewables make a big amount of difference because it will take billions of dollars to develop them at a time when he is taking billions out of the economy by raising the power rates beyond any level that will support economic growth.

That's the thing with the liberal tree huggers, they are real good at campaigning, controlling the media and the message, getting their left wing environmentalist elected but never gave any thought as to how they are going to make this carbon tax work or how they can shut down all the coal plants and still have electrical power before the renewables come on line.

If you think ObamaCare was a major screw up and a mess just watch the next 10 years when the carbon tax scheme and the war on coal blows up in their face."
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#42315 Dec 31, 2013
WARMING SCIENTIST WRONG wrote:
Global warming scientists forced to admit defeat... because of too much ice: Stranded Antarctic ship's crew will be rescued by helicopter
Chris Turney, a climate scientist and leader of the expedition, was going to document 'environmental changes' at the pole. In an interview he said he expected melting ice to play a part in expedition.
They went in search evidence of the world’s melting ice caps, but instead a team of climate scientists have been forced to abandon their mission … because the Antarctic ice is thicker than usual at this time of year.
The scientists have been stuck aboard the stricken MV Akademik Schokalskiy since Christmas Day, with repeated sea rescue attempts being abandoned as icebreaking ships failed to reach them.
Now that effort has been ditched, with experts admitting the ice is just too thick. Instead the crew have built an icy helipad, with plans afoot to rescue the 74-strong team by helicopter.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-25311...
Careful there... you're going to be accused of cherry picking data.

Maybe they all just wanted a helicopter ride.
Coal is King

Paducah, KY

#42316 Dec 31, 2013
Another voice from the coalfields.

From Richmond, KY:

"A lot of the people who cheat the system are very good at it.They know how to get any benefit you could imagine.Living Together is the typical way they cheat the system and it happens in all classes not just the impoverished class.Kentucky has a democrat governor.I think for the most part Ky does vote democrat.The democrat assault on coal has made some democrats cross over and vote republican in recent elections. I agree it does not signify hypocrisy how a person votes. I will say that on my last meeting in lexington while discussing politics a person said " you people up there shouldnt be mining the governments land ".For one thing the land isnt the governments it belongs to private citizens. Another thing was mentioned "most people up in southeast ky are on meth and drugs so they better vote democrat so they can get their welfare" . Its sickening they want us to vote democrat to keep the area down and they dont think for a moment that we need jobs ? The severance shouldnt be sent to places like Lexington it should stay with the county that mined it , The next comment was and it gets worse " You all are racist and thats why you dont like Obama come one admit it". Skin color ? Skin Color has nothing to do with the problems we now face due to Obama. Hes attacked the constitution ,energy sources,spied on Americans, and ruined our economy and probably will bankrupt hospitals in the next year if a miracle doesnt take place soon."

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#42317 Dec 31, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Careful there... you're going to be accused of cherry picking data.
Maybe they all just wanted a helicopter ride.
Exactly, for a start this little expedition was just eco tourists not a boat full of climate scientists, there was one leading the tour. So that's your first cherry pick of the day.
Secondly because the boat got iced in can we now declare climate change is over ?
Is this the other catch phrase you deniers want to put out there now
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#42318 Dec 31, 2013
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly, for a start this little expedition was just eco tourists not a boat full of climate scientists, there was one leading the tour. So that's your first cherry pick of the day.
Secondly because the boat got iced in can we now declare climate change is over ?
Is this the other catch phrase you deniers want to put out there now
Lighten up, Francis.

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