Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

There are 201810 comments on the www.cnn.com story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage. In it, www.cnn.com reports that:

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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“Vita e' Bella.”

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#201950 Jul 12, 2013
Sparkle_is_stripper wrote:
<quoted text>be careful wishing for civil rights to be up for a vote... cause the next vote might just be to take one of yours
The voters twice voted to clearly define marriage, as it had always been understood, as amnion of one man and one woman. No rights were voted on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposition_22

Prior to 1977, marriage was defined in Section 4100 of the California Civil Code. This stated that marriage is "a personal relation arising out of a civil contract, to which consent of the parties making that contract is necessary".[6] While related sections of the law made references to sex, a State Assembly committee that was debating adding sex-specific terms to this section in 1977 noted: "Under existing law it is not clear whether partners of the same sex can get married".[7] That year, the legislature amended the legal definition of marriage to remove any ambiguity. In 1992 the legal definition of marriage was moved from the Civil Code to Section 300 of the Family Code.

When Proposition 22 came before voters, marriage was defined in the Family Code as "a personal relation arising out of a civil contract between a man and a woman, to which the consent of the parties capable of making that contract is necessary" [italics added].[8]

Even though the definition governing who may marry explicitly precluded contracting a same-sex marriage in California, a separate provision, Section 308, governed recognition of marriages contracted elsewhere. This stated that a "marriage contracted outside this state that would be valid by the laws of the jurisdiction in which the marriage was contracted is valid in this state".[9] Advocates of Proposition 22 described Section 308 as a "loophole", apparently forcing California to recognize a same-sex marriage validly contracted in some other state.[10]

To address this, Proposition 22 did not reword the existing provisions of the Family Code, but added to them the declaration that "only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California".[11] The official citation of Proposition 22, the "California Defense of Marriage Act", is almost the same as that of a federal law, the Defense of Marriage Act, which was enacted by Congress in 1996. This federal law had a similar purpose, and was intended to prevent any state from being obligated to recognize a same-sex marriage contracted in another state.

“Vita e' Bella.”

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#201951 Jul 12, 2013
Sparkle_is_stripper wrote:
<quoted text>my point for these dumbazzes is that voting on civil rights for a minority might not allways be a vote they wanna and could lose... the supreme court did exactly what it should and prevent the tyranny of a majority from trampling on the rights of a minority which in turn benefits all of us... anyone of these bigots who can't see that relly aren't americans
So now we have the tyranny of the minority.
Mikey

Fullerton, CA

#201952 Jul 12, 2013
Celebrate Diversity wrote:
<quoted text>
"bigots"
"lose the right"
"fix stupid"
"cull the herd"
Dangerous elitist fecal matter.
Yea..a bit off.

“Vita e' Bella.”

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#201953 Jul 12, 2013
“The tyranny of the minority is infinitely more odious and intolerable and more to be feared than that of the majority.”
William McKinley (1843-1901)
U.S. Congressman and 25th President of the United States,
Comment to the House of Representatives, January 1886
Cartages

Monrovia, CA

#201954 Jul 12, 2013
Amend and pass the ammunition, brother!

“Vita e' Bella.”

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#201955 Jul 12, 2013

“Vita e' Bella.”

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#201956 Jul 12, 2013

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#201957 Jul 12, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
“The tyranny of the minority is infinitely more odious and intolerable and more to be feared than that of the majority.”
William McKinley (1843-1901)
U.S. Congressman and 25th President of the United States,
Comment to the House of Representatives, January 1886
He was talking about another person's legal marriage?

Can you prove that this is the "tyranny" he was referring to?

The tyranny of secure and protected children!
The tyranny of happy and productive families!
The tyranny of elderly living a secure retirement!
The tyranny of youth looking toward a successfulfuture!

SUCH Tyranny!!!

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#201958 Jul 12, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
So now we have the tyranny of the minority.
First, you would have to explain how another person's marriage could be deemed "tyranny", since it harms no one and helps the families involved.

Looking at the definitions of the word, there isn't a single one that seems to apply to gay people seeking the SAME right to legally marry that other couples already enjoy.

Now, gay people have been fighting tyranny themselves, by every definition of the word. And we are finally beating it.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#201959 Jul 12, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
It is just they are the first to scream "We are a republic not a democracy" ( because their name is republican and their opponents are democrats ) but come an issue like this and they seem to forget all that and scream we are a nation of mob rule.
You switch which issue you are discussing and they get amnesia
"scream!"
"republican!"
"scream!" (again)
"seem to forget!"
"mob rule!"
"amnesia!"
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#201960 Jul 12, 2013
Fountainhead wrote:
<quoted text>You might have to ask one. BTW are you a full on Moron?
No, just you Jizzy. No one else here is.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#201961 Jul 12, 2013
Jonah1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I reached the same conclusion. Sad really.
Aw Jizzy's just a big dope. He doesn't feel pain, don't feel sad.
Greener Ps

Monrovia, CA

#201962 Jul 12, 2013
July 12, 2013

Rodney Erickson is trying to get approval for settlement offers for all of Sandusky's victims.

Penn State could soon be paying out millions and millions of dollars to all the victims of coach Jerry Sandusky.

July 12, 2013

How much did Glendora, California pay the ladies that were tormented by a former manager who has since left for greener pastures?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#201963 Jul 12, 2013
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
He was talking about another person's legal marriage?
Can you prove that this is the "tyranny" he was referring to?
The tyranny of secure and protected children!
The tyranny of happy and productive families!
The tyranny of elderly living a secure retirement!
The tyranny of youth looking toward a successfulfuture!
SUCH Tyranny!!!
Relax fruitloops.
Straight Sh00ter

Topeka, KS

#201964 Jul 12, 2013
Archie Bunker wrote:
<quoted text>
The majority of the voters in California, voted for the ban on same sex marriage.
Then some liberal, left wing judge, from the 9th Circuit Court decides to strike it down.
Wrong - Wrong - Wrong. GOD IS GONNA CUT YOU DOWN!!!!!!!!!!
Edith agrees.
Atta boy Arch, now tell that dumb hippy Meat Head to get a job.
Straight Sh00ter

Topeka, KS

#201966 Jul 12, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Relax fruitloops.
You're pickin' trade up on the street like that. That's nowhere. I mean, you gotta get yourself some kind of management. You need my friend O'Daniel. He operates the biggest stable in town, in fact, in the whole god-damned Metropolitan area. It's stupid, a stud like you paying. You don't want to be stupid.
Bowed

Monrovia, CA

#201975 Jul 12, 2013
Frankie are you going to get the same box of rocks you get every Xmas?
Pietro Armando

Schenectady, NY

#201977 Jul 12, 2013
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
First, you would have to explain how another person's marriage could be deemed "tyranny", since it harms no one and helps the families involved.
If harms no one, then expand marriage even further. No harm....right?
Looking at the definitions of the word, there isn't a single one that seems to apply to gay people seeking the SAME right to legally marry that other couples already enjoy.
Now, gay people have been fighting tyranny themselves, by every definition of the word. And we are finally beating it.
Gay people ALREADY HAVE THE SAME RIGHT to marry, enter into a legally recognized union of husband and wife, valid in all fifty states. Seems dishonest to claim otherwise.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#201978 Jul 12, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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You can paint a turd gold, but it's still a turd. This is the case with your post.
The fields of psychology, psychiatry, biology and sociology have determined that homosexuality is not a disorder and not a deviant behavior. And here you are, using terminology from these fields to try to convince us that homosexuality presents a danger to humanity.
Please... Give us a break.
You're an armchair, wanna-be clinician--at best.
Here's a clue... Check out the fact that there are over 7 BILLION people on the planet. Homosexuality has done nothing to negatively impact the "propagation, diversity, and health of future generations..."
Love it.

In spite of 'psychology, psychiatry, biology and sociology' not knowing what causes homosexuality, you claim they can determine the normalcy?

Do you really think anyone believes that nonsense.

Smile.
laughing man

UK

#201986 Jul 12, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
It is just they are the first to scream "We are a republic not a democracy" ( because their name is republican and their opponents are democrats ) but come an issue like this and they seem to forget all that and scream we are a nation of mob rule.
You switch which issue you are discussing and they get amnesia
Funny how your post reads, because libtards seem to always shout about "democracy" and FOR mob rule. This time the wishy-washy shit cultists have changed their tunes.

No surprise, though. Shit cultists have no moral center, no actual foundation they operate from. to destroy Civilization is all they want. Anarchists and analists.

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