Police hiring on hold; Pomona grant t...

Police hiring on hold; Pomona grant to add nine officers in limbo

There are 29 comments on the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin story from Aug 1, 2010, titled Police hiring on hold; Pomona grant to add nine officers in limbo. In it, Inland Valley Daily Bulletin reports that:

After two years of cuts and a recent round of layoffs, Police Chief Dave Keetle will be able to save some officers' jobs through a series of retirements.

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get facts right

Huntington Beach, CA

#1 Aug 1, 2010
If there is no time limit, then go ahead with Phase II to get a better estimate to end this discussion already. The citizens deserve it as well as the PPD officers. This way the best decision can be made to determine what is best. Nine officers is a drop in the bucket. That's nothing. LASD is proposing to place 20-40 more Deputies in Pomona.
P Town Blues

Long Beach, CA

#2 Aug 2, 2010
The city was awarded the grant in July 2009 and just now are filling the positions. What was the hold up? Oh I forgot it's Govt...a snail when it comes to common sense and decisions. Commons sense says why not offer a 2 or 3 year service credit to the General employees with less salaries then the Police officers so they don't pay a hefty pension price that is so common with public safety officials and management officials. Oh no just the opposite the General employees gets Laid Off. And that is why the city looks like a "waste station".
get facts right

Leander, TX

#3 Aug 2, 2010
get facts right wrote:
If there is no time limit, then go ahead with Phase II to get a better estimate to end this discussion already. The citizens deserve it as well as the PPD officers. This way the best decision can be made to determine what is best. Nine officers is a drop in the bucket. That's nothing. LASD is proposing to place 20-40 more Deputies in Pomona.
Why dont you worry more about Fontana PD?? LASD would place 20-40 more deputies in Pomona... LOL, never happen! The only thing LASD would add is to their own contract, year after year! These facts are right!
Pomona Guy

Long Beach, CA

#4 Aug 2, 2010
Should we keep the PPD? Yes

Should we allow any public service unions to continue in Pomona? No

Should we replace the entire Pomona City Council? Yes
Duncan

Lytle Creek, CA

#5 Aug 2, 2010
Ditto on the above...
Bob

La Verne, CA

#6 Aug 2, 2010
It sounds like Chief Keetle is stepping up to the plate during these difficult times. It sounds like the members of the PPOA have stepped up to the plate and hit a home run as they have volunteered to take pay and benefit cuts that equal about 25k a year per officer to help save the City of Pomona and the Pomona P.D. What kind of cuts did the individual L.A. County Fireman take? You got it, nothing. It should be a lesson learned, City of Pomona employees step up to save Pomona, county employees don't. They could care less about Pomona.If Pomona goes under they just move on to another location in the county. So the city council needs to listen to the citizens of Pomona and drop the idea of contracting with LASD. They just want to balance the county budget on the backs of cities it contracts with. Good luck PPD.
Ray Brower

Downey, CA

#7 Aug 2, 2010
Bob wrote:
It sounds like Chief Keetle is stepping up to the plate during these difficult times. It sounds like the members of the PPOA have stepped up to the plate and hit a home run as they have volunteered to take pay and benefit cuts that equal about 25k a year per officer to help save the City of Pomona and the Pomona P.D. What kind of cuts did the individual L.A. County Fireman take? You got it, nothing. It should be a lesson learned, City of Pomona employees step up to save Pomona, county employees don't. They could care less about Pomona.If Pomona goes under they just move on to another location in the county. So the city council needs to listen to the citizens of Pomona and drop the idea of contracting with LASD. They just want to balance the county budget on the backs of cities it contracts with. Good luck PPD.
Bob, you may be onto something.. If the County Sheriff comes in and the County Fire remains, they could literally bankrupt the city which in turn cause it to loose incorporation. One big unincorporated area that they would serve anyway and remain uncontested!
TaxPayersAreTire dOfIt

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#8 Aug 2, 2010
Oh, we forgot bailout money from the American Taxpayer. We can put off responsible choices for now and stiff John Q Public. THIS MENTALITY IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE GETTING FED UP WITH! NO MORE BAILOUTS. Hopefully there will be no more $$ coming from Obama, I mean the taxpayers, this year. You want to see Pomona's future? See 'DrudgeReport' yesterday on East St Louis Police Dept being Gutted---Criminals Run Wild.
Of Course

Long Beach, CA

#9 Aug 2, 2010
Just use the funds to keep the air units up.
Mission

Corona, CA

#10 Aug 2, 2010
get facts right wrote:
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Why dont you worry more about Fontana PD?? LASD would place 20-40 more deputies in Pomona... LOL, never happen! The only thing LASD would add is to their own contract, year after year! These facts are right!
Why don't you worry about Fortworth Texas P.D. You have no vested interest in this city, especially being out of state. I live near and have a business in Pamona. I would love the Sheriff to take over. In fact, our chamber, Pomona City chamber of commerce, would rather have the Sheriff also. Our tax dollars would be better off.
Mission

Corona, CA

#11 Aug 2, 2010
Bob wrote:
It sounds like Chief Keetle is stepping up to the plate during these difficult times. It sounds like the members of the PPOA have stepped up to the plate and hit a home run as they have volunteered to take pay and benefit cuts that equal about 25k a year per officer to help save the City of Pomona and the Pomona P.D. What kind of cuts did the individual L.A. County Fireman take? You got it, nothing. It should be a lesson learned, City of Pomona employees step up to save Pomona, county employees don't. They could care less about Pomona.If Pomona goes under they just move on to another location in the county. So the city council needs to listen to the citizens of Pomona and drop the idea of contracting with LASD. They just want to balance the county budget on the backs of cities it contracts with. Good luck PPD.
Wow! sounds like you're a police employee. I have been paying out the ying yang in business taxes in Pomona, only to get minimal police service. I think the Sheriff would be a great option and if I heard correctly, it will happen. The only thing I would ask the Sheriff to do is hire our officers. They will probably make significantly less being deputies as well as not having the 3 at 50 plan. But I think this is the best and cheapest way to be efficient in our city. No on Pomona Police....Yes on the Sheriff....

Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#12 Aug 2, 2010
The LASD just took over the LA County police and not everyone was retained...Is this what you want to do to the fine officers of Pomona Police Department?...I too have a business in Pomona and I support the Police Department 100%.
Competition

Alhambra, CA

#13 Aug 2, 2010
Competition is great. This is the sharpest move the city council has ever made. Since the city requested the Sheriff’s Department contract study, Pomona PD has given up 4.5 million dollars in concessions and are working for 25 percent less than the fire department. Now the rats are scurrying to get off of the sinking ship.

The younger Pomona PD officers are already applying for positions on other police departments (So much for the loyalty I see people blogging about. There is none. Pomona PD and Sheriff’s are the same. They don’t live in the city. They both work hard, but their allegiance is to pay, benefits and career satisfaction, not to any one city.)

The older Pomona PD officers are swallowing “Tums” by the box and making doctor appointments for high blood pressure retirement claims. Ten of them are now taking early retirements and hitting the road. The mid-career Pomona PD officers don't want to start new somewhere else and are stuck. They are too old to start over, but not old enough to fake a medical retirement. They are the ones you see on these blogs telling everyone they are loyal and the greatest officers in the whole wide world, and please don’t fire me.

Watch the city council tonight. They will find a way to string this along longer by saying they want to keep Pomona PD but they still want to study the Sheriff option. By this time next year they will have taken another 15 percent in concessions away from Pomona PD and exchanged the Pomona PD retire at 50 years old plan for a 401K retirement plan.

Let the competition continue. It is great for taxpayers. There is no more monopoly on Pomona policing.
PJP

Upland, CA

#14 Aug 2, 2010
Checkpoint charlie wrote:
The LASD just took over the LA County police and not everyone was retained...Is this what you want to do to the fine officers of Pomona Police Department?...I too have a business in Pomona and I support the Police Department 100%.
That's because some of the LA County Police Officers were not POST certified and more than 50% of them were either fired from other police depts or released in lieu of being fired. I don't see the same outcome with Pomona Officers. Phase II would settle this issue.
Businessman

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#15 Aug 2, 2010
I do not want a county run law enforcement agency in the city that I have made such a big investment in. And I don't want to visit a county run hospital when I need medical attention. I have experienced both and do not want to repeat the experiences.
Lawman

San Diego, CA

#16 Aug 2, 2010
Most of the Pomona PD Officers I am sure would be picked up by the Sheriffs. We did it in Compton which was the last big city we took over back in 2000 the Maywood deal was something entirely different.

Sheriff's Dept would serve Pomona proud. You would be pleasantly pleased at the service you would get. Air support, homicide detectives, narcotics teams, gang teams state of the art community oriented policing. Response to calls within 30 minutes.

We are a great bargain!
PPD

Huntington Beach, CA

#17 Aug 2, 2010
get facts right wrote:
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Why dont you worry more about Fontana PD?? LASD would place 20-40 more deputies in Pomona... LOL, never happen! The only thing LASD would add is to their own contract, year after year! These facts are right!
only if you worry about your town pd in texas, lol..
PJP

Upland, CA

#18 Aug 2, 2010
Businessman wrote:
I do not want a county run law enforcement agency in the city that I have made such a big investment in. And I don't want to visit a county run hospital when I need medical attention. I have experienced both and do not want to repeat the experiences.
Each of us have invested in our city, not to mention the utility tax we pay, which is the highest in the county at 9 or 10% and may be increased another 2% if the citizens pass the ballot initiative that is scheduled to be voted on this November. The city revenues are extremely low and the reserves are almost none existent, leaving the city officials only a few options: 1) employee layoffs 2) employee pay cuts or furloughs 3) tax increases, or a combination of any or all of these options or 4) contract for police services with the Sheriff and save $3.5 million plus and add 30-40 patrol deputies. City Officials are being fiscally responsible by looking into contracting with the Sheriff; it gives them another option. I support their decision 100%.
get facts right

Huntington Beach, CA

#19 Aug 2, 2010
get facts right wrote:
<quoted text>
Why dont you worry more about Fontana PD?? LASD would place 20-40 more deputies in Pomona... LOL, never happen! The only thing LASD would add is to their own contract, year after year! These facts are right!
Worry more about Georgetown, Tx. It's already been explained again and again the city under the name is not accurate. I have personal interest in Pomona. I wan't LASD. Your facts are wrong. In fact they're not even facts. They're false statements with no substance. No personal experience or knowledge I'm guessing. Just scare tactics. Pomona are giving their guys 20 hours a month furloughs now. That means less officers in the streets. Less service. LASD would put more uniforms on the streets at no extra cost. Just the way it is. That's from first hand experience.
get facts right

Huntington Beach, CA

#20 Aug 2, 2010
Checkpoint charlie wrote:
The LASD just took over the LA County police and not everyone was retained...Is this what you want to do to the fine officers of Pomona Police Department?...I too have a business in Pomona and I support the Police Department 100%.
That was a totally different takeover. There are reasons why some of their guys weren't taken. It wouldn't be the same issue with PPD. LASD took everone from Compton PD with the exception of a few guys and those guys left for other smaller agencies. Compton is better off with LASD and the crime is at an all time low. LASD provides so much more service than they pay for. Every contract city with LASD does.

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