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Curious Citizen

United States

#1 Jun 13, 2012
I keep seeing peoples names on here being called heroin junkies, pill addicts, thieves, sluts, and STD carriers. I know probably most of it is by people who are mad and just lashing out. So the question is (without giving names) how much of it is true? I have younger kids and it has almost got me scared to death thinking every young person in the area ends up on drugs. Does anyone know anyone past high school under 25 years old thats NOT on drugs? is it seriously that easy for kids to get access to heroin? are diseases rampant?
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Berkeley Springs, WV

#3 Jun 14, 2012
Curious Citizen wrote:
I keep seeing peoples names on here being called heroin junkies, pill addicts, thieves, sluts, and STD carriers. I know probably most of it is by people who are mad and just lashing out. So the question is (without giving names) how much of it is true? I have younger kids and it has almost got me scared to death thinking every young person in the area ends up on drugs. Does anyone know anyone past high school under 25 years old thats NOT on drugs? is it seriously that easy for kids to get access to heroin? are diseases rampant?
Most of it is true, we are in the middle of a drug epidemic and no sign of it being cleaned up anytime soon. The states of Ohio, WV, and Ky dose not have enough jails to house all the druggies, so unless you get caught cooking meth, your probably safe from ever being locked up for drugs...
Ohhh Brother

Lynchburg, OH

#4 Jun 14, 2012
Yes, there is a lot of fine young kids in Meigs county that isn't on drugs..........but there still is a lot of drugs, sluts, and lazy people to be dealt with.
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Berkeley Springs, WV

#5 Jun 14, 2012
Ohhh Brother wrote:
Yes, there is a lot of fine young kids in Meigs county that isn't on drugs..........but there still is a lot of drugs, sluts, and lazy people to be dealt with.
There is still a lot of good teens in both Meigs and Mason county, but your seeing more and more who's into drugs already :( But it's not only the young that's into drugs, it's the older people too, people you would never think would do drugs are now using.. It's such a sad time we now live in!
Curious Citizen

United States

#6 Jun 14, 2012
How? How did the county get infiltrated with HEROIN?? It hasn't been that long since I was young. Most kids are going to try stuff. Always been that way. Unless I just didn't know the right people there was never heroin and meth around here until recently. What changed? Why was booze and pot not enough? Isn't there enough people who are scared to death about this stuff to do something about it? WHO is bringing the hard drugs in and why is it so hard to shut it down? Doesn't law enforcement know that THAT is what is destroying this place?
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Berkeley Springs, WV

#7 Jun 14, 2012
Curious Citizen wrote:
How? How did the county get infiltrated with HEROIN?? It hasn't been that long since I was young. Most kids are going to try stuff. Always been that way. Unless I just didn't know the right people there was never heroin and meth around here until recently. What changed? Why was booze and pot not enough? Isn't there enough people who are scared to death about this stuff to do something about it? WHO is bringing the hard drugs in and why is it so hard to shut it down? Doesn't law enforcement know that THAT is what is destroying this place?
It all started Innocently, with the baby boomers getting older and depending on pain pills, kids stealing them and selling them, people getting out of work and needing money started selling them to help pay bills, by the time the government step in to try to cut back on the usage of pain pills, it was to late. Most of the Heroin users were once pain pill poppers, pain pills quit working for them so they went to using Heroin.. The ones who can't find money for Heroin, ends up on Meth, it's real cheap to make... Most of the Heroin came here from Detroit, and yes these dealers are mostly black men, so everyone is throwing the race card again. But there is a lot of Heroin coming up from Fl. now, most of these guys are white. So this can not be blamed on anyone race, out west it's the native americans who are caring it from the north to the south, from the south to the north. So you see it's not a race problem, but a human race problem. It's a drug epidemic that knows no race discrimination, it knows no age discrimination. And it's killing our love ones....
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Berkeley Springs, WV

#8 Jun 14, 2012
I destroy homes, tear families apart, take your children, and that's just the start. I'm more costly than diamonds, more costly than gold, the sorrow I bring is a sight to behold, and if u need me, remember I'm easily found. I live all around you, in schools and in town. I live with the rich, I live with the poor, I live down the street, and maybe next door. My power is awesome; try me.......... you'll see, but if you do, you may never break free. Just try me once and I might let you go, but try me twice, and I'll own your soul. When I possess you, you'll steal and you'll lie. You do what you have to just to get high. The crimes you'll commit, for my narcotic charms will be worth the pleasure you'll feel in your arms. You'll lie to your mother; you'll steal from your dad When you see their tears, you should feel sad. But you'll forget your morals and how you were raised, I'll be your conscience, I'll teach you my ways. I take kids from parents, and parents from kids, I turn people from god, and separate from friends. I'll take everything from you, your looks and your pride, I'll be with you always, right by your side. You'll give up everything your family, your home, your friends, your money, then you'll be alone. I'll take and take, till you have nothing more to give. When I'm finished with you you'll be lucky to live. If you try me be warned this is no game. If given the chance, I'll drive you insane. I'll ravish your body; I'll control your mind. I'll own you completely; your soul will be mine. The nightmares I'll give you while lying in bed, the voices you'll hear from inside your head, the sweats, the shakes, the visions you'll see; I want you to know, these are all gifts from me, But then it's too late, and you'll know in your heart, that you are mine, and we shall not part. You'll regret that you tried me, they always do, but you came to me, not I to you. You knew this would happen. Many times you were told, but you challenged my power, and chose to be bold. You could have said no, and just walked away, If you could live that day over, now what would you say? I'll be your master; you will be my slave, I'll even go with you, when you go to your grave. Now that you have met me , what will you do? Will you try me or not? Its all up to you. I can bring you more misery than words can tell. Come take my hand, let me lead you to hell.
what can we do

Point Pleasant, WV

#9 Jun 14, 2012
wow...that last post gave me chills...I know for me it was the movies we watched in high school that scared me away from the drug scene...Do they still show movies these days? I talk to my grandkids about drugs...I try to scare the hell out of them about what they can do to people.. 2 of them are at the age when peer pressure is hard on them...I hope they never try drugs...
Curious Citizen

United States

#10 Jun 14, 2012
good warning poem. Wish everyone could read that. I don't know if it would matter.
it is so scary to me. I love this area. i have kids, so many friends and family here. It breaks my heart to see people throw their lives away like they are. We need to make it known to all these detroit and florida dealers that our town is off limits to drug dealers!!
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Berkeley Springs, WV

#11 Jun 14, 2012
what can we do wrote:
wow...that last post gave me chills...I know for me it was the movies we watched in high school that scared me away from the drug scene...Do they still show movies these days? I talk to my grandkids about drugs...I try to scare the hell out of them about what they can do to people.. 2 of them are at the age when peer pressure is hard on them...I hope they never try drugs...
I know what your feeling, my grandkids are getting close to becoming teens, that poem that I posted, I printed it out for my kids to read to their kids, I pray everyday that they grow up to be good people such as their parents are. It scares the he'll out of me, I have nieces and nephews who went down the wrong path in life, it's so said to watch my sister and brother go through what they have to deal with on a daily bases. They were good parents and raised their kids up in church, nobody could have seen this coming, osh my sister never even drank so much as a can of beer in front of her daughter all the time that child was growing up, and now half the time we don't even know where she is at, who she is with or what she is on... Not a night goes by that I don't cry myself to sleep thinking about all the drugs that are now out there, and who's child will they get to next....
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Berkeley Springs, WV

#12 Jun 14, 2012
Curious Citizen wrote:
good warning poem. Wish everyone could read that. I don't know if it would matter.
it is so scary to me. I love this area. i have kids, so many friends and family here. It breaks my heart to see people throw their lives away like they are. We need to make it known to all these detroit and florida dealers that our town is off limits to drug dealers!!
It's so disheartening to watch Meigs and Mason co. go to the waist side. It's sad to know that the days when our kids could play outside after dark in the summer time and be safe is now no more:( My husband and I use to walk our kids to mason park all most every night and watch as all the street lights came on in Pomeroy, such a pretty site to see all the lights show up on the water.. It just pisses me off to no end that it's now not safe to do the same with our grandkids..:( sad sad times...
Curious Citizen

United States

#13 Jun 14, 2012
Sorry to hear that. It seems I hear more and more stories like that. So many families are dealing with one loved one or another that has a drug problem. is there anyone out there who is trying to combat this epidemic? On a local level?
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Berkeley Springs, WV

#14 Jun 14, 2012
Curious Citizen wrote:
Sorry to hear that. It seems I hear more and more stories like that. So many families are dealing with one loved one or another that has a drug problem. is there anyone out there who is trying to combat this epidemic? On a local level?
I really think that the cops around here are trying, they bring them in but not enough jail cells and the prisons are full they have to let most of them go. The government needs to invest in more prisons.. We are seeing a lot of little kids being left in drug infested homes due to not enough foster homes to place them in. I wish I knew the answers to your questions, but I don't . I do think people are starting to realize that this drug epidemic and it effects everybody, young, old, rich and poor. I think it will get a lot worst before it gets better.
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Point Pleasant, WV

#15 Jun 15, 2012
TURN BACK TO GOD...
WTFO

Circleville, OH

#16 Jun 15, 2012
Jump Up wrote:
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I really think that the cops around here are trying, they bring them in but not enough jail cells and the prisons are full they have to let most of them go. The government needs to invest in more prisons.. We are seeing a lot of little kids being left in drug infested homes due to not enough foster homes to place them in. I wish I knew the answers to your questions, but I don't . I do think people are starting to realize that this drug epidemic and it effects everybody, young, old, rich and poor. I think it will get a lot worst before it gets better.
That mind set is the exact cause of why the problem gets worse you will never incarcerate the problem away,what is needed instead of more prisons is real rehab and it can be done for way less money than a lock up.The stats show a 4 to 1 ratio on cost and even if rehab only works for 1 of the 4 treated it is still a better answer than zero that are cured of addiction if locked up.We the tax payers are paying on aversage $55 a day to lock people up and for that they are never treated for their addiction so they are just turned loose with new info they have learned from other prisoneers to go back to the same old grind and try just a little harder to not get caught the next time.the government does not need to invest in prisons,you do realize they do not run prisons on the state and local level right,those are turned over to private firms who make money by the more people they lock up so why would they want anyone to get off drugs its money in the bank knowing they will be back.The only way to beat this problem is to change directions from the failed practices of the last 40 years which is incarceration.Curing the problem is the only thing that will work drugs are a supply and demand product so if you take the demand out of the picture the supply will disappear.
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Berkeley Springs, WV

#17 Jun 15, 2012
WTFO wrote:
<quoted text>That mind set is the exact cause of why the problem gets worse you will never incarcerate the problem away,what is needed instead of more prisons is real rehab and it can be done for way less money than a lock up.The stats show a 4 to 1 ratio on cost and even if rehab only works for 1 of the 4 treated it is still a better answer than zero that are cured of addiction if locked up.We the tax payers are paying on aversage $55 a day to lock people up and for that they are never treated for their addiction so they are just turned loose with new info they have learned from other prisoneers to go back to the same old grind and try just a little harder to not get caught the next time.the government does not need to invest in prisons,you do realize they do not run prisons on the state and local level right,those are turned over to private firms who make money by the more people they lock up so why would they want anyone to get off drugs its money in the bank knowing they will be back.The only way to beat this problem is to change directions from the failed practices of the last 40 years which is incarceration.Curing the problem is the only thing that will work drugs are a supply and demand product so if you take the demand out of the picture the supply will disappear.
No we do need more jails, and while your locked up getting dried out and you really do want a different life for yourself, then you take responsibility for your own actions, take advantage of the programs that they offer while your in jail and get yourself ready to face the real world again without the need for a needle in your arm.. When I said build more jails, I mean jails with rehab in them, ones with programs to help people learn to live again. Most users go to rehab get out with in a month and start using again. If your locked in a jail cell for a year or so and getting the help that you need, you are more likely to stay clean, also it's showing the young kids who are just starting to use, that if this is the life you chose, then there will be consequence to have to live with.
Curious Citizen

United States

#18 Jun 15, 2012
We really need to take a look at prevention. I mean what makes that life so appealing. It is clear to see that addiction is a miserable condition. These people look terrible. they have no self respect and certainly no respect for others. They lose their families and jobs and everything else. So the answer is to find out what on EARTH makes people want to chose that lifestyle?? Then, address THAT
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Berkeley Springs, WV

#19 Jun 15, 2012
Curious Citizen wrote:
We really need to take a look at prevention. I mean what makes that life so appealing. It is clear to see that addiction is a miserable condition. These people look terrible. they have no self respect and certainly no respect for others. They lose their families and jobs and everything else. So the answer is to find out what on EARTH makes people want to chose that lifestyle?? Then, address THAT
I 100 % agree with you
WTFO

Circleville, OH

#20 Jun 15, 2012
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No we do need more jails, and while your locked up getting dried out and you really do want a different life for yourself, then you take responsibility for your own actions, take advantage of the programs that they offer while your in jail and get yourself ready to face the real world again without the need for a needle in your arm.. When I said build more jails, I mean jails with rehab in them, ones with programs to help people learn to live again. Most users go to rehab get out with in a month and start using again. If your locked in a jail cell for a year or so and getting the help that you need, you are more likely to stay clean, also it's showing the young kids who are just starting to use, that if this is the life you chose, then there will be consequence to have to live with.
Locked up getting dried out what planet are you from??There is as many drugs in the jails as on the street,and name 1 program they offer while you are in jail,you do know they are suffering from a budget crunch and have stopped almost all programs even the federal prisons now have a waiting list of 2 yrs to get into a drug program and many prisons have stopped them all together.You should really checvk things out before you make comments that are false.there is very few real rehabs in this area you have plenty of these wanna be systems that are nothing more than a scam of state money people go in read a book and are proclaimed cured it dont work that way that is not rehab,and look no further than the people from this county that have been locked up over and over again the rate of using once they get out even after 2 or 3 years is 80% or higher.I can name 6 that have all spent over 2 years and everyone are still using and dealing.Thats a total of $240,000 we the tax payers have paid and what good has it done,not 1 day from the time of their release were they clean why would they be,they were getting better drugs inside than out always has been like that.I had the honor of spending 3 days in our county jail 35 years ago and they smoked more pot in there than people was smoking on the street.The war on drugs has really been a sucess right we have incarcerated millions and drugs are worse now than ever,a supposed $100,000 investment that would clean all the drugs out of this country according to Nixon has exploded into a 10 billion dollar a year boondoggle that does not work.
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Berkeley Springs, WV

#21 Jun 15, 2012
WTFO wrote:
<quoted text>Locked up getting dried out what planet are you from??There is as many drugs in the jails as on the street,and name 1 program they offer while you are in jail,you do know they are suffering from a budget crunch and have stopped almost all programs even the federal prisons now have a waiting list of 2 yrs to get into a drug program and many prisons have stopped them all together.You should really checvk things out before you make comments that are false.there is very few real rehabs in this area you have plenty of these wanna be systems that are nothing more than a scam of state money people go in read a book and are proclaimed cured it dont work that way that is not rehab,and look no further than the people from this county that have been locked up over and over again the rate of using once they get out even after 2 or 3 years is 80% or higher.I can name 6 that have all spent over 2 years and everyone are still using and dealing.Thats a total of $240,000 we the tax payers have paid and what good has it done,not 1 day from the time of their release were they clean why would they be,they were getting better drugs inside than out always has been like that.I had the honor of spending 3 days in our county jail 35 years ago and they smoked more pot in there than people was smoking on the street.The war on drugs has really been a sucess right we have incarcerated millions and drugs are worse now than ever,a supposed $100,000 investment that would clean all the drugs out of this country according to Nixon has exploded into a 10 billion dollar a year boondoggle that does not work.
I said that we need them, not that we have them, you need to go snort some more coke and cry some more because nobody is going to give you a free ride

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