When a Job Disappears, So Does the Health Care

Dec 6, 2008 Full story: www.nytimes.com 87

As jobless numbers reach levels not seen in 25 years, another crisis is unfolding for millions of people who lost their health insurance along with their jobs, joining the ranks of the uninsured.

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Since: Sep 07

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#1 Dec 6, 2008
It will bring home the need for a national health care program for many who didn't believe so before.
Nebulas Crab Olien

United States

#2 Dec 6, 2008
ucantbsrius wrote:
It will bring home the need for a national health care program for many who didn't believe so before.
the engineer steal the labor then the dr. rob the unions

very sad :-( but life move on :-0
LikeaRock

United States

#3 Dec 6, 2008
Bingo.

Since: Jun 08

Rochester, NH

#4 Dec 6, 2008
Why should employers have any obligation to provide health care benefits? They aren't forced to provide any other of life's necessities or critical needs. Health Insurance may be a necessity these days, but so is food and shelter. I don't hear anyone screaming that employers should provide groceries or homes to their employees.
wrose

Hyde Park, UT

#5 Dec 6, 2008
benjee wrote:
Why should employers have any obligation to provide health care benefits? They aren't forced to provide any other of life's necessities or critical needs. Health Insurance may be a necessity these days, but so is food and shelter. I don't hear anyone screaming that employers should provide groceries or homes to their employees.
Have YOU lost your health insurance?
LikeaRock

United States

#6 Dec 6, 2008
benjee wrote:
Why should employers have any obligation to provide health care benefits? They aren't forced to provide any other of life's necessities or critical needs. Health Insurance may be a necessity these days, but so is food and shelter. I don't hear anyone screaming that employers should provide groceries or homes to their employees.
I have argued this for years. I think health insurance, be it through employers or not, has only made health costs more expensive and more wasteful. But the powers that be are not going to have it any other way due to monies that have been generated, and now lost via Wallstreet. I find the concept of employer based insurance an intrusion into the the private lives of employees but they are not going to have it any other way. Therefore, at this point, having to accept they are not going to have it any other way, I prefer Obama's plan, where everyone has a fair shot at decent health insurance system that does not penalize for preexisting conditions. Of course, given this economic downturn, they may rethink the health insurance issue too.
Nebulas Crab Olien

United States

#8 Dec 6, 2008
wrose wrote:
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Have YOU lost your health insurance?
when U walk in da door see the dr. say HELLo $50.00
:-0 $50 to say Hello maybe Heal+th =??? not included viagra
Nebulas Crab Olien

United States

#9 Dec 6, 2008
LikeaRock wrote:
<quoted text>I have argued this for years. I think health insurance, be it through employers or not, has only made health costs more expensive and more wasteful. But the powers that be are not going to have it any other way due to monies that have been generated, and now lost via Wallstreet. I find the concept of employer based insurance an intrusion into the the private lives of employees but they are not going to have it any other way. Therefore, at this point, having to accept they are not going to have it any other way, I prefer Obama's plan, where everyone has a fair shot at decent health insurance system that does not penalize for preexisting conditions. Of course, given this economic downturn, they may rethink the health insurance issue too.
wow, auto unions :-(( dr. phd. unions :-0
oh, bs, ba, master, professor, CE0, mucho Unions

United +$lave = Amen, Eman, investMenT

:-0
wrose

Hyde Park, UT

#10 Dec 6, 2008
Nebulas Crab Olien wrote:
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when U walk in da door see the dr. say HELLo $50.00
:-0 $50 to say Hello maybe Heal+th =??? not included viagra
?????????
LikeaRock

United States

#11 Dec 6, 2008
Nebulas Crab Olien wrote:
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wow, auto unions :-(( dr. phd. unions :-0
oh, bs, ba, master, professor, CE0, mucho Unions
United +$lave = Amen, Eman, investMenT
:-0
??? me too
Nebulas Crab Olien

United States

#12 Dec 6, 2008
wrose wrote:
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?????????
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Joseph_Smi...

Amen or Eman ?
Nebulas Crab Olien

United States

#13 Dec 6, 2008
LikeaRock wrote:
<quoted text>??? me too
U r man or men ?:-0

Since: Sep 07

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#14 Dec 6, 2008
benjee wrote:
Why should employers have any obligation to provide health care benefits? They aren't forced to provide any other of life's necessities or critical needs. Health Insurance may be a necessity these days, but so is food and shelter. I don't hear anyone screaming that employers should provide groceries or homes to their employees.
it's called a benefit package.no-one forces a company to do anything, it's to their own benefit to provide it. Blue collar workers get it because of or to stave off unions. Unions good, right to work law bad.

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#15 Dec 6, 2008
wrose wrote:
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Have YOU lost your health insurance?
he's never had it
braveheart

Aurora, MO

#16 Dec 6, 2008
health insurance folks couldn't care less as long as they are getting our tax dollar bailouts.
Lance Winslow

Diablo, CA

#17 Dec 6, 2008
braveheart wrote:
health insurance folks couldn't care less as long as they are getting our tax dollar bailouts.
The only bailouts so far have gone to Bush and Paulson's friends on Wall Street.
Health insurance companies have good profit margins regardless of how many or few subscribers they insure.
braveheart

Aurora, MO

#18 Dec 6, 2008
Lance Winslow wrote:
<quoted text>The only bailouts so far have gone to Bush and Paulson's friends on Wall Street.
Health insurance companies have good profit margins regardless of how many or few subscribers they insure.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
About two months after the government first announced its multibillion-dollar bailout of insurance giant AIG, more insurance companies are lining up for federal dollars, leaving some consumers worried about their insurance policies.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
found on the net.
LikeaRock

United States

#19 Dec 6, 2008
I know this to be true. I needed an appointment 2 weeks ago for an ear ache. I almost did not try to make an appointment, thinking by the time they would give me one, my problem would either be over or I would have gone to an Urgent Care center. Typically there is a two week to a month wait. I was shocked to get an appointment the very next day. A usually bustling waiting room had only a few people sitting around. I couldn't immediately figure out what was up and I had to, at first wonder, if this practice had been sued or something, because this was highly unusual. I left a little baffled. But then I had to go back the following week, and had the same experience. And then it hit me. People were not there because they had lost their coverage or because they had put medical needs behind other expenses. I had never seen this in the 16 years I had been going to this busy office. Just another sad sign of the times.
wrose

Hyde Park, UT

#20 Dec 7, 2008
Nebulas Crab Olien wrote:
I'm NOT a Mormon if that's what you are getting at. There are a few brave non-brainwashed among us.
Shut up

Canonsburg, PA

#21 Dec 7, 2008
Lance Winslow wrote:
<quoted text>The only bailouts so far have gone to Bush and Paulson's friends on Wall Street.
Health insurance companies have good profit margins regardless of how many or few subscribers they insure.
Just wait, everybody will be getting in line for government "bailouts." And yes that includes insurance companies.

Corporate welfare at its finest.

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