new ambulance franchise
Sam I Am

Horseshoe Bend, AR

#205 Feb 6, 2013
What is your point? I have heard this discussed before. That only applies to the second ordinance, not the first.
fyi wrote:
amendment 7 ark constitution - "Provided, however, that an emergency shall not be declared on any franchise or special privilege or act creating any vested right or interest or alienating any property of the State."
fyi

Ash Flat, AR

#206 Feb 6, 2013
Dick wrote:
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there's a reason to hear you cry cry cry
you're the one crying and you are weak on posting documented facts to back up your bs.

you asked the question dumbazz. take your medicine and handle the truth. go read amendment 7

can we assume that the council not following the law means nothing to you?
fyi

Ash Flat, AR

#207 Feb 6, 2013
Sam I Am wrote:
What is your point? I have heard this discussed before. That only applies to the second ordinance, not the first.
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the first original ordinance forming the sole FRANCHISE was introduced, read 3 times, and passed at one meeting with an emergency clause. secret agenda at work. not challenged in time. some probably knew it and blew it by the council and public anyway.
Sam I Am

Horseshoe Bend, AR

#208 Feb 6, 2013
It covers the awarding of a franchise. Only the second ordinance created a vested right. Not the first. Again with your secret agenda talk...
fyi wrote:
<quoted text>the first original ordinance forming the sole FRANCHISE was introduced, read 3 times, and passed at one meeting with an emergency clause. secret agenda at work. not challenged in time. some probably knew it and blew it by the council and public anyway.
no way

Ash Flat, AR

#209 Feb 6, 2013
no need for names here wrote:
The main question in all of this back and forth is. HAS ANYONE DIED YET BECAUSE OF LACK OF COVERAGE? After all this time we have to just accept that privileges are going to be given to one company or another by every level of government. I'm sure that for every contract in every city in the country you could find a similar example. That being said MedicOne was screwed over as they were very prompt professional and courteous whenever our family needed them.
WE DO NOT HAVE TO ACCEPT IT! that's what's going wrong with this country. folks NEED to stand up for what is right and condemn the council and the way they screwed over medic one.

the ruckus is because of the secret agenda, way it was done, and the rejection of our vote on it. folks don't like or expect it from OUR council and are NOT accepting it very well. all good that we expect and want better here. problem is with and shame is on the council, not the folks for not accepting their BS.
really

Ash Flat, AR

#210 Feb 6, 2013
Sam I Am wrote:
It covers the awarding of a franchise. Only the second ordinance created a vested right. Not the first. Again with your secret agenda talk...
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so you a lawyer or judge? read the law? can't have the second without the first. first one formed the franchise - real fast.
guest

Oklahoma City, OK

#211 Feb 6, 2013
no need for names here wrote:
The main question in all of this back and forth is. HAS ANYONE DIED YET BECAUSE OF LACK OF COVERAGE? After all this time we have to just accept that privileges are going to be given to one company or another by every level of government. I'm sure that for every contract in every city in the country you could find a similar example. That being said MedicOne was screwed over as they were very prompt professional and courteous whenever our family needed them.
There actually is at least one often discussed case where someone had a heart attack and there were no ambulances available in randolph county and medic one had not even checked 10-6 at the time. I will not mention the name out of respect for the family, but most know about this incidence. The gentleman passed away at the scene. Ambulance had to respond out of Lawrence County.
rumored

Ash Flat, AR

#212 Feb 6, 2013
guest wrote:
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There actually is at least one often discussed case where someone had a heart attack and there were no ambulances available in randolph county and medic one had not even checked 10-6 at the time. I will not mention the name out of respect for the family, but most know about this incidence. The gentleman passed away at the scene. Ambulance had to respond out of Lawrence County.
heard that was all rumor, some had said it had 7 minute respond time from imboden. careful with the possible libel.
guest

Oklahoma City, OK

#213 Feb 6, 2013
No libel there. It is all facts. It was double that response time and the truck came out if walnut ridge not imboden. I was told this was the incidence that started the franchise talk. Just what I heard though.
rumored wrote:
<quoted text>heard that was all rumor, some had said it had 7 minute respond time from imboden. careful with the possible libel.
guest

United States

#214 Feb 7, 2013
guest wrote:
No libel there. It is all facts. It was double that response time and the truck came out if walnut ridge not imboden. I was told this was the incidence that started the franchise talk. Just what I heard though.
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So you are saying that death by heart attack for an 85 year old man is a surprise? Not being cruel to the family, just realistic. I'm sure they are disappointed to see their very elderly relative's death used as political hay.
guest

Mountain Home, AR

#215 Feb 7, 2013
FACT before medic one came back to town promed was having to call out AET from WR or imboden to help.
Dick

Oklahoma City, OK

#216 Feb 7, 2013
Fact medic one is leavin right now !!!!!!
well

Ash Flat, AR

#217 Feb 7, 2013
Dick wrote:
Fact medic one is leavin right now !!!!!!
pretty sure they left last month. everyone knows they and the voters were done wrong by the erc and council.
guest

Mountain Home, AR

#218 Feb 7, 2013
why so happy? that's what i don't understand about this person.
i never did my question answered
why was old olvey pushing for a franchise? he hold no elected position why was the mayor and county judge going to the meeting that he held at his office building? whay's up with that mighty mouth
power trip

Ash Flat, AR

#219 Feb 7, 2013
guest wrote:
why so happy? that's what i don't understand about this person.
i never did my question answered
why was old olvey pushing for a franchise? he hold no elected position why was the mayor and county judge going to the meeting that he held at his office building? whay's up with that mighty mouth
Council does have some misguided supporters posting here.

The secret agenda is not seen, acknowledged, or discussed by some on here.

Very telling that the franchise appeared from no where with no previous council discussion and was pushed thru at one meeting.

Medic one and voters obviously got screwed by the erc and council. Some will never admit it.
guest

Mountain Home, AR

#220 Feb 7, 2013
i don't think they are misguided i think they know what they are doing it's called lying and damage control. elections will be soon time for people to step up and run against these old men who have old ideas who only care about theirself and their buddies. keep the same expected the same.
gone

United States

#221 Feb 7, 2013
guest wrote:
i don't think they are misguided i think they know what they are doing it's called lying and damage control. elections will be soon time for people to step up and run against these old men who have old ideas who only care about theirself and their buddies. keep the same expected the same.
Old? It's the younger ones that have something to lose, give them the boot. Send their political careers down the drain. Imagine, just one person singing a bar of Alice's Restaurant? Just think about it!
voter

United States

#222 Feb 7, 2013
Here is what angry voters in Pine Bluff do to misbehaving aldermen.

http://pbcommercial.com/sections/opinion/lett...
Haha

Ash Flat, AR

#223 Feb 8, 2013
guest wrote:
FACT before medic one came back to town promed was having to call out AET from WR or imboden to help.
FACT when it was just medic one here the medic one truck out of walnut ridge was coming to pocahontas almost every day to cover for the so what's the difference they are both getting trucks out of walnut ridge it happens you have days when 15 trucks is not enough to cover. Get over it medic one is gone quit whining all I hear is people saying they are gonna do this and gonna do that and how they are going to get medic one back well fu***** do something y'all ain't going to do a damn thing if you don't like it then move to a different county you didn't get your way get over it
guest

Ash Flat, AR

#224 Feb 8, 2013
but someone did GET their way.

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