Obama care what a disaster

Obama care what a disaster

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cornbread

Mountain Home, AR

#2 Oct 31, 2013
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billions spent on a program that will bankrupt the middle class
HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius
Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius (The Washington Post)
In the semi-disastrous testimony of Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Kathleen Sebelius — with such doozies on Healthcare.gov as,“The Web site never crashed. It is functional, but at a very slow speed and very low reliability,” with a split scene of the site down — there was more than a new batch of gotcha moments for the Republicans to gloat about. There is a fundamental assumption critical to not only Obamacare, but also to the liberal welfare state more generally, namely that it requires a sophisticated and competent bureaucracy. In its collapse and in the testimony of Sebelius, we saw that this assumption may simply be wrong. Forget ideology for a moment. If the liberal welfare state can’t run its own creations, it is not sustainable.
Here are some specifics from the hearing:
1. She claims not to know how many people have enrolled because the site is not functioning. This contradicts what insurances companies have said and suggests a systemic problem that, if not addressed, makes it impossible to determine basic information like whether HHS has enough young people enrolled to pay for the sicker, older people.
2. She says the president was given updates. She either knew so little that she conveyed false information or she informed him of problems but he continued to tell voters it was 100 percent ready to go.
3. Neither she nor the president seem to understand that the “grandfathering” provision was not going to let all people keep the insurance plans they had. In the administration’s own regulations the qualifications for grandfathering were so rigid that millions, as we now see, are not going to keep their plan.
4. The Democratic Party, which has long claimed the mantle of compassion, now stands for refusing to grant hardship waivers to those people who tried but couldn’t get on the Web site. When asked if the waivers would be granted, Sebelius sternly replied,“No.”
5. Democratic members of Congress now resort to arguing that Obamacare has been undermined by Republicans. No Republicans voted for it. A Democratic administration wrote the regulations. A Democratic administration is implementing it. Good luck with that one, guys.
6. There is considerable doubt about the privacy/security arrangements. If Healthcare.gov didn’t get the requisite testing to make sure it worked, it didn’t get the requisite testing to protect personal information, Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) argued. The Associated Press, meanwhile, released a report referencing an internal administration memo that stated that insufficient testing created “a level of uncertainty that can be deemed as a high risk.”
7. Sebelius claimed she was “accountable,” but this means little. She isn’t resigning. She still insists contractors were at fault. It’s a kind of no-consequences accountability, I suppose.
8. She vindicated entirely the Republican objections to the shutdown. Nothing up to this point could be more devastating to the public image of Obamacare. The GOP is not the issue; the Obamacare mess is.
This was the sort of hearing that Republicans would not have had the nerve to imagine. In a few short hours, Sebelius, now the face of Obamacare just as much as the president, portrayed just about every quality people hate about big government — incompetent, cold-hearted, blame-casting, uninformed and unrealistic. It’s hard to imagine she won’t be the star of many 2014 GOP ads
What is so funny about this is the stupid people thought it was going to be free,the Dems cant or wont try to defend their man anymore,of course they cant,they just sit there like idoits because they are.
Obama care Nightmare

Mountain Home, AR

#3 Nov 1, 2013
cornbread wrote:
<quoted text>What is so funny about this is the stupid people thought it was going to be free,the Dems cant or wont try to defend their man anymore,of course they cant,they just sit there like idoits because they are.
There are going tobe a lot less demorats in congress after the the 2014 election.
ha ha

Ash Flat, AR

#4 Nov 1, 2013
Obama care Nightmare wrote:
<quoted text> There are going tobe a lot less demorats in congress after the the 2014 election.
If you like your health care you can keep it.
breaker breaker

Ash Flat, AR

#5 Nov 1, 2013
Pay for your vote,you cant fix stupid.
ya think

Mountain Home, AR

#6 Nov 1, 2013
ha ha wrote:
<quoted text>If you like your health care you can keep it.
at what price when my company has to write it to certain govt standards and write sick people with aids, cancer, advanced diabetes, and those needing dialysis and heart surgery.
breaker breaker

Ash Flat, AR

#7 Nov 1, 2013
ya think wrote:
<quoted text>at what price when my company has to write it to certain govt standards and write sick people with aids, cancer, advanced diabetes, and those needing dialysis and heart surgery.
I have worked in medical for 28 yrs.and know of not 1 person that was refused medical att.or service with any of these problems mentioned.
Guest

Ash Flat, AR

#8 Nov 2, 2013
For those of us that cam remember when having auto insurance became law they used the theme "it will be cheaper when everyone has to have it" turned out to be a lie.
Now the clitch in the new system has been caused because the Canadian company we hired to set it up was a company with a long history of failures. What happened to keeping jobs in America?
The only way a health care plan could work for all of us is the single payer system. Just billing and paper work cost more than the actual doctor care cost. The secret to affordable health care is cutting cost and trimming the fat from the care we get. Of course no one in Washington has ever knew what a budget is so nothing they pass will ever work because of cost over runs.
Guest

Jonesboro, AR

#9 Nov 2, 2013
ha ha wrote:
<quoted text>If you like your health care you can keep it.
Millions of people have lost their health care because of Obamacare..
Al Sexton

United States

#10 Nov 2, 2013
Enjoy you fart knockers free ride is over
Welfare monkey

Ash Flat, AR

#11 Nov 2, 2013
Al Sexton wrote:
Enjoy you fart knockers free ride is over
Wana bet,we are just getting started no 1 except the low income is signing up.
cornbread

Ash Flat, AR

#12 Nov 2, 2013
If you make more money then you pay more,socialism that is what the Democrats represent,that was what the people wanted but honestly its the rich that will come out ahead because they pay ppl to get them around the taxes.
Guest

Jonesboro, AR

#13 Nov 3, 2013
My husband works every day, we make too much money to get a subsidy and not enough money to afford insurance, if we could afford insurance, we would already have it. We pay our bills without any help from the government. We have a mortgage payment, a car payment, home insurance and car insurance payments, utility payments etc etc. We do like to eat once in a while too..
Al Sexton

United States

#14 Nov 3, 2013
Welfare monkey wrote:
<quoted text>Wana bet,we are just getting started no 1 except the low income is signing up.
Sure get a quote an see its not free an it won't be. When the Sociakist mess with the free markets they screw it up, you fools waiting for the redistribution can keep waiting cause it won't happen . To the lady singing the blues over not affording healthcare - get rid of the care payment biggest waste of money ever secondly if you or your husband smoke you need to stop today . Lastly you yourself need a job even if its part time - if you can work for cash even better, You sound like you are responsible so check out the Dave Ramsey program
Guest

United States

#15 Nov 5, 2013
Has anyone else's insurance policy changed?
cornbread

Cherokee Village, AR

#16 Nov 5, 2013
Guest wrote:
My husband works every day, we make too much money to get a subsidy and not enough money to afford insurance, if we could afford insurance, we would already have it. We pay our bills without any help from the government. We have a mortgage payment, a car payment, home insurance and car insurance payments, utility payments etc etc. We do like to eat once in a while too..
You got what you wanted now pay for it and shut-up.

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