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Charles wrote:
Science generally deals in facts, theory and laws. Truth is the domain of philosophy and religion.
Generally theories are tested continually against new facts as they arise. Most theories remain intact with modifications on the way to being called a "law." Is "relativity" a theory or a law at this point? Most of the math is proven correct by physical evidence.
Laws generally are simple expressions of small parts of some theory, not the entire theory. A law becomes an absolute and rarely if ever is overturned. That theories are modified or dropped over time is evidence the scientific community is always testing its beliefs and is willing to accept it is wrong when proven so. Better theory will generally replace portions of discarded theory.
Evidence for evolution continues to mount and most of the theory is unquestioned at this point, only built upon and strengthened. The most remarkable thing about Darwin is that he got so much right with now knowledge of genetic mechanisms for inheritance of traits.
The Bible is truth and full of "truths." Many of these are taken on faith. As one walks through life and tries to practice the truths, one begins to accept the truths work and prove them to be real, practical, provable principles.
There are parallels between how science is tested and faith is tested.
If you had studied the bible as much as you have evolution,then you would be quoting scripture,but i have not saw you post any,no we dont burn bulls and goats anymore for its the n.t. that was set for us to live by not the o.t.the n.t. is the o.t. reveiled.
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<quoted text>If you had studied the bible as much as you have evolution,then you would be quoting scripture,but i have not saw you post any,no we dont burn bulls and goats anymore for its the n.t. that was set for us to live by not the o.t.the n.t. is the o.t. reveiled.
Blah, blah, blah! The bible proves the bible is true.
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Look,

Well, I try to be a good witness for Christ. If anyone reads what I have written, by now they would know the way to salvation. Additionally, I have given a lot of explanations regarding NT versus OT.

You seem to be happier to attack than to find a brother in Christ. You seem to be a type of "accuser." The Accuser of the Bible is not to be emulated. This is good wisdom for you.

Now, I have little doubt I have studied the Bible considerably more than you and I clearly have a much greater understanding.

I ask you again, how many people have you brought to Christ? You seem reluctant to answer that.

Additionally, I suggest you begin to use a spell checker for your posts. You may not feel a witness for Christ needs to do his or her best for Christ, your past posts certainly indicate that. But if you change you may see your credibility increase. In your last post you misspelled a word and almost said exactly the opposite of what you meant. revealed/reveiled?
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Again i will ask you how does one become a christian,you state that you can witness to christ,have you ever seen jesus christ i dobut it,if not then you cant witness to him,but you can to his word if you believe."Faith comith by hearing and hearing by the word of god.ROMANS 10-17.Again i ask you how does one become a christian.
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Look,

You are quite the accuser, aren't you. If you will read back through my prior posts, you will see the answer was given some time ago. You must be lazy in addition to your other issues. If you wish to be born again, you will find it there. I'll help you again if you fail.

You seem to be more concerned about telling people they aren't Christians and turning people away from Christ with you bigotry than you are with showing salvation's new man. A man of renewed, sound mind.

No forgiveness, no love, no civil discourse and no renewed mind. Only condemnation and blather. You want to be better than everyone. You remind me of one "Simon" in Acts. Always tempting, always wanting power but instead the Apostles sent him on his way. The way of a Sorcerer.

My guess to my continued question to you is that it is zero, you have brought nobody to Christ. Perhaps you do not know him.

BTW, well done on taking my advice on a spell checker. Now you should start to work on grammar and punctuation. Before long you'll begin to learn how to be a better witness to the power of God.

Regarding my study of the Bible versus yours. In the English do you use KJ, NIV, etc.? I had to study a lot of Greek and Latin for my study of biology. That and college French helped me in my studies of Greek and Latin transliterations.

My Hebrew is pretty worthless so most of my OT studies were in English texts. No matter, as you know there are no existing original NT texts and there is no perfect English version. The Hebrew texts of the OT are actually considered to be better transcriptions versus the originals as the scribes were trained to do just that. Certainly, you as a sophisticated student of God'd Word already knew all this. While it is not readily apparent that you have committed much time to the work, your presentation as an authority can and should be accepted for what it appears to be. Much like a lot of the other things you claim.
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Look,
You are quite the accuser, aren't you. If you will read back through my prior posts, you will see the answer was given some time ago. You must be lazy in addition to your other issues. If you wish to be born again, you will find it there. I'll help you again if you fail.
You seem to be more concerned about telling people they aren't Christians and turning people away from Christ with you bigotry than you are with showing salvation's new man. A man of renewed, sound mind.
No forgiveness, no love, no civil discourse and no renewed mind. Only condemnation and blather. You want to be better than everyone. You remind me of one "Simon" in Acts. Always tempting, always wanting power but instead the Apostles sent him on his way. The way of a Sorcerer.
My guess to my continued question to you is that it is zero, you have brought nobody to Christ. Perhaps you do not know him.
BTW, well done on taking my advice on a spell checker. Now you should start to work on grammar and punctuation. Before long you'll begin to learn how to be a better witness to the power of God.
Regarding my study of the Bible versus yours. In the English do you use KJ, NIV, etc.? I had to study a lot of Greek and Latin for my study of biology. That and college French helped me in my studies of Greek and Latin transliterations.
My Hebrew is pretty worthless so most of my OT studies were in English texts. No matter, as you know there are no existing original NT texts and there is no perfect English version. The Hebrew texts of the OT are actually considered to be better transcriptions versus the originals as the scribes were trained to do just that. Certainly, you as a sophisticated student of God'd Word already knew all this. While it is not readily apparent that you have committed much time to the work, your presentation as an authority can and should be accepted for what it appears to be. Much like a lot of the other things you claim.
You for some reason want to try to convince everyone that you are an educated person and everyone is to believe you are the christ and what ever you say is the way things should be,i have ask you 3 times how one can become a christian,you can't even tell us how,who will believe you when you wont even tell us,we could care less if you are educated,uneducated,or stand on your head,walk on your hands,walk on water,we could care less,all i ask you was to explain how one becomes a christian,now i can see you hold no bible knoledge that concerns what one needs to know to be a christian,critizing me or anyother person will not get you anywhere,blow all the smoke you want to but your aren't convincing me that you are very smart.
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Look,
You are quite the accuser, aren't you. If you will read back through my prior posts, you will see the answer was given some time ago. You must be lazy in addition to your other issues. If you wish to be born again, you will find it there. I'll help you again if you fail.
You seem to be more concerned about telling people they aren't Christians and turning people away from Christ with you bigotry than you are with showing salvation's new man. A man of renewed, sound mind.
No forgiveness, no love, no civil discourse and no renewed mind. Only condemnation and blather. You want to be better than everyone. You remind me of one "Simon" in Acts. Always tempting, always wanting power but instead the Apostles sent him on his way. The way of a Sorcerer.
My guess to my continued question to you is that it is zero, you have brought nobody to Christ. Perhaps you do not know him.
BTW, well done on taking my advice on a spell checker. Now you should start to work on grammar and punctuation. Before long you'll begin to learn how to be a better witness to the power of God.
Regarding my study of the Bible versus yours. In the English do you use KJ, NIV, etc.? I had to study a lot of Greek and Latin for my study of biology. That and college French helped me in my studies of Greek and Latin transliterations.
My Hebrew is pretty worthless so most of my OT studies were in English texts. No matter, as you know there are no existing original NT texts and there is no perfect English version. The Hebrew texts of the OT are actually considered to be better transcriptions versus the originals as the scribes were trained to do just that. Certainly, you as a sophisticated student of God'd Word already knew all this. While it is not readily apparent that you have committed much time to the work, your presentation as an authority can and should be accepted for what it appears to be. Much like a lot of the other things you claim.
Mr.smart i'll try and help you back into the world,just because one is or is not educated,we dont care,your pushing evolution not christianty,we could care less if you studied Greek,Hebrew,French,Latin,what you know is nothing to us,except you have proven exactly what was expected from you when you started trying to convince us of evolution,which you are not smart at all as far as what you know about the bible,by the way you did mispell a word anyone should be able to spell,a 3 letter word God.
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If I recall correctly, Look accused me of not studying the Bible as much as I have evolution. A lie, and he is proven wrong.

As far as being baited about being a Christian, I have given my testimony. I have also, more than once, referred to Romans 10:9&10 as the path to salvation. Additionally, I have laid it out specifically, verbatim that if you believe Jesus was the son of God, crucified he was thereafter raised from the dead by God. If one believes this in their heart and confesses it with their mouth, they are saved. They are instructed thereafter to be baptized as a witness to their salvation.

Now, Mr. Look, see how you have learned to improve yourself. It used to be that Christ did not even mean enough to you that you would use spell check in trying to represent him. Now you've even gone to a grammar check. But you are still a bigot. If you are envious of someone that has actually done the depth of study you want to pretend, start the hard work of doing it yourself. And I am right, you have brought no one to Christ. Do you understand the Ministry of Reconciliation and it's importance?

American, I don't need to convince you or anyone else of my education or intelligence. I am very secure in both. But when challenged about my Christianity I will bring all forces to the fore. You are threatened. I suggest you pray about what you write. And unless you also go by the name of "Look" you have not asked me 3 times. "Look" has. So, "Look" appears to be not only a bigot, but also a fraud an a liar. Some one writing to me needs deliverance from a spiritual "situation."

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BTW, Earth appears to be several billion years old.
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<quoted text>No christian will believe in evolution,just because one says he/she is a christian does not make them a christian,if one chooses to be a christian there are certain steps to be taken then he/she without dobut can be certain he/she is a christian,this idea that all one must do to become a christian is to ask god into one's heart is badly mistaken,that didn't work for paul in acts when he was struck down on the road to damascus,god blinded him there as paul was crucifying christians,puting them in bondage what did christ instruct him to do,the lord told him to go into the city,to the street called straight and require about a man peter and it shall be told the there what to do,now if you are serious about wanting to know what one must do to become a christian check and see what paul was told to do,paul was a praying man when god struck him blind because he refured to god and said what is it lord,its easy to get on the wrong track,why would one think he can get salvation by one one small piece of scripture when he has the new testiment of many,many,scriptures.
I will refur to a previous post by another person of which i do agree,why would anyone think that to be a christian all he or she needs to do is obey 2 pieces of scripture and cast out the rest of the bible,think about why we have the bible,and no i dont believe that you can become a christian on 2 small pieces of scripture,yes i agree completely with the scriptures,but how can one become a christian unless he hears the gospel,belives in the plan of salvation and the jesus is the christ,confesses he or she believes in this plan of salvation,repents of his or her sins,and is baptized in water for the re-mission of sins and lives godly this is what we are told in the bible.
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BTW, Earth appears to be several billion years old.
What appears to you is what you want to believe and not what the bible records,which is just over 6000 years,you are still pushing evolution,now i suggest that you go back to those ppl you claim you led to christ and explain they are not christians untill they take the right steps,of course you are not going to do that because you would be admitting you aren't as smart as you claim you are,now how many ppl have you led to christ,it would be my understanding "none" "dont forsake the assembly" you might learn more about gods word to that you can testify but not to christ because you have never saw him.
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So "Look" has decided Romans 10:9&10 are not true. I thought that "Look" probably was uncertain of his own salvation. Now I know he does not know.

He says he agrees with scripture yet denies 2 verses are true, all in the same sentence; this is a lie in a lie.

The Apostle Paul wrote it, I will believe it. "Look" will deny it. He does not believe it and chooses to throw out part of the Bible to suit his need for power. He will put everyone in bondage to his little religion. A distinct spiritual problem.

The way is narrow: The plan is detailed in the NT, the gate is revealed in 2 verses.
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Look,

I made no claim of leading people to Christ, I simply asked you how many you have. Answer: zero.

You have a spiritual problem, you need deliverance. Christ can do that for you.
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Look wrote:
<quoted text>Faith with out works is dead,{the works is obeidence}to gods word,"hear-Romans>10-1 7 faith cometh by hearing,hearing by the word of god">Believe-John-8-24 i say therefore unto you,that ye shall die of your sins> Repent-Luke 13-3 i tell you,nay;except ye repent,ye shall likewise perish>Confess-Romans 10-10 for with the heart man believith unto righteousness,and with the nouth confession is made unto salvation >Be baptized-1 Peter3-21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us,not the puting away of the filth of the flesh,but the answer of a good conscience toward god,by the resurrection of jesus christ"if you look at this man is saved at the point of baptism,every person that was baptized in the new testement,was baptized within the same hour or same day.Now if you choose to disagree,its fine with me,its not a loss to me,only you.I have saw men say they got saved but was not baptized until 2 weeks later,but thats not what is tought by the new testement and the very reason Paul was told exactly what "he must do" add some thought to these scriptures and please tell me if or why you would disagree,feel free to express yourself you will not offend me.
Yep,i'm going to stand by gods word you can do as you choose but evolution is not something a christian would attempt to believe,one that believes in evolution cant believe in gods word because the bible tells us that god made man and took a rib from mans side and formed woman,so evolution will not go hand and hand with gods word.
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Look,
I made no claim of leading people to Christ, I simply asked you how many you have. Answer: zero.
You have a spiritual problem, you need deliverance. Christ can do that for you.
Now Charles,a christian would not be a lier,where did i not agree with the bible,now tell me one more time what a good christian you are,just because you cant defend what you are trying to preach does not give you the right to critisize what some is telling you especially when they are quoting from the bible.{kjv}
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Look, you are surely a liar.

Look,

Your problem is that you have not renewed your mind to the mind of Christ. As such you have not been able to be delivered from DENIAL and DECEIT.
You DENY the power of the cross and the resurrection for the deliverance of sins. This is a DENIAL of the power of Christ and what he did. The NT is the story of grace. You want “Grace unto works” to be gone and substitute your own “Works unto grace” criteria for salvation. Paul, Peter and the other NT writers made the path simple and clear. It is not the path you would DECEIVE people to take.
You DECEIVE with your substitution of the “LOOK AT ME” list of requirements for salvation. You have your list of all that must be done, including that now one must believe the earth is 6000 years old. Any other belief and you cannot be a Christian. This is a lie. This and the other criteria in “THE LIST OF LOOK” are your little spiritual prison. Read the first few chapters of Genesis. Find out where the Bible says about when the Sun and moon came into the picture. Consider what is taught there.
Now, after salvation the new Christian is instructed to study the Bible to show one’s self approved of God, an HONEST workman. You are no such thing. You want to add, subtract and poison the grace that God gives freely.
You bounce around every which way when your DECEIT is exposed. You are so much like Simon the Sorcerer in Acts that I would not be surprised if the self-same spirit resides in you. You may be a fellow Christian, but you have a bad spirit. You deny the power of confession of belief can bring salvation. Like that Simon you want to purchase salvation and sell it. Purchase it by holding the power of its secrets in your little mind and making others work for it. No, God gives it freely to those that believe on his son.
BTW, in the study of Quantum Theory, you would find that the math there says “all things are possible.” So, like the Book of Truth, the Bible, says,“with God all things are possible” will not be limited by the mind of “Look.” You DENY truth of the absolute power of God. A fallen angel did the same. You DENY God could use evolution to REPLENISH and FILL the earth. You DENY that with God time is not as it is with man.
Now, is it possible that the earth is only 6000 years old? Yes. Is it likely? No. But neither a belief in the specific age of the earth or the form of development of the diversity of life on earth are criteria for salvation. Anyone that so claims, please point to the chapter and verse. If you cannot and wish to propound such DECEIT, you can live in your little prison, but don’t take others down with you.
“Look”(or is it now “American”) would have me go back to anyone I brought to Christ and teach them the “WAY of LOOK” to ensure their salvation. Well, little “LOOK,” go and do the work of reconciliation. You may learn something about love, forgiveness, faith, and the Power of the Cross.
Romans 10:9&10 - DENY it and DECEIVE if you wish. But if you do I believe your life will not be happy and your mind will not be whole. And you will not spread the Gospel of Christ. Embrace its truth and that is the first step on to complete deliverance. This is true for “Look” and all people.
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Perhaps there would be more Christians in the world if more "Christian" wives didn't cheat on their husbands, more "Christian" husbands didn't cheat on their wives; there is something in the Bible about "coveting thy neighbor's ass" isn't there?

Also, I have read about as men,as they were chopping cotton, realized " the row is so long, and the sun was so hot, they believed they got a calling to preach." I paraphrased that for a book by Booker T. Washington.

Oh, and if Church goer's didn't get the Sunday going to meetin' panties in a wad if a visitor sat in their pew, they might have lot more in the collection plate, and there would be more members to cook "Chicken and Dumpling" or Fried Chicken
Dinners for the preacher on Sunday.
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jess, I think there is wisdom there in what you wrote. but are you ok or is there trouble?
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Perhaps there would be more Christians in the world if more "Christian" wives didn't cheat on their husbands, more "Christian" husbands didn't cheat on their wives; there is something in the Bible about "coveting thy neighbor's ass" isn't there?
Also, I have read about as men,as they were chopping cotton, realized " the row is so long, and the sun was so hot, they believed they got a calling to preach." I paraphrased that for a book by Booker T. Washington.
Oh, and if Church goer's didn't get the Sunday going to meetin' panties in a wad if a visitor sat in their pew, they might have lot more in the collection plate, and there would be more members to cook "Chicken and Dumpling" or Fried Chicken
Dinners for the preacher on Sunday.
Lol now you critisize church going ppl,do you think we care about what is in the colection plate,we do as we are commanded,we give,you again are showing yourself to the public,no i dont want any more of you ignorance.
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jess, I think there is wisdom there in what you wrote. but are you ok or is there trouble?
Charles doing just fine.

I do not believe my deceased wife ever cheated on me, and I know I never cheated on her.

Nor do I date married women.

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