A LADY

Humansville, MO

#41 Dec 13, 2008
Oh Pulease wrote:
<quoted text>
Well funny, I see you did your homework, but I also see that you forgot to add the complete paragraph. Why didn't you put the next sentence (the one in parenthesis) in to complete the entire rule??
Here is the COMPLETE paragraph:
The “Stop and Detain” Pre-Arrest Contact – Reasonable Suspicion Required: The Sheriff or his deputy(when lawfully present in any place) are authorized (in the performance of law enforcement duties) stop and detain any person – so long as: 1) the officer reasonably suspects that person is committing, has committed, or is about to commit (i) a felony or (ii) a misdemeanor involving danger of forcible injury to a person or of appropriation of or damage to property and 2) such action is reasonably necessary either to obtain or verify the identification of the person or to determine the lawfulness of his conduct. An officer who has detained a person based on reasonable suspicion shall immediately advise that person of the officer’s official identity and the reason for the detention. An officer acting
under this rule may require the person to remain in or near such place in the officer’s presence for such time as is reasonable under the circumstances and in no event more not more than 15 minutes.
Okay, here is the part you left out, which is the next line:
At the end of such period, the person detained shall be released without further restraint, or arrested and charged with an offense (if the “reasonable cause to believe” requirement for an arrest has been met). Ark. R. Crim. Pro., Rules 3.1 and 3.2.
In other words if I find probable cause to hold you longer than 15 minutes I can hold you for a longer amount of time if needed.
I think since you know so much about the law that you should become a professor, or maybe you should go talk with professors at the colleges, where do you think that I learned all of the information on this, and now that I know that you think that you know the law y dont you start obeying the law. because the law clearly states that you cannot hold longer than 15 minutes just the common JOE is not educated enough to know the difference. I do know that cops will take advantage of the situation if they know that the suspect or individual does not know any better. My professor at college would be interested to know that you think that his information is wrong.
If you would like his name and phone number just let me know.
You see this is why Pocahontas is so freaking phony. No One in this town is willing to accept information and use it to their advantage they are always right and no one is ever wrong.
If your wrong admitt it.
It states it says "in NO event"
If you have anything else intelligent to say just let me know.
Just bring it on.!!!!
funny but true

Humansville, MO

#42 Dec 13, 2008
Oh Pulease wrote:
If you want to read the entire law go to the following website...
www.callrainwater.com/pdf/Force%20072%20-%20P...
Sorry, but I have read the whole law, and was able to comprehend what it says. Watch out, new people are graduating from law school every year, with honors. And apparently some people need to be replaced.
get real

College Station, TX

#43 Dec 13, 2008
A LADY wrote:
<quoted text>I think since you know so much about the law that you should become a professor, or maybe you should go talk with professors at the colleges, where do you think that I learned all of the information on this, and now that I know that you think that you know the law y dont you start obeying the law. because the law clearly states that you cannot hold longer than 15 minutes just the common JOE is not educated enough to know the difference. I do know that cops will take advantage of the situation if they know that the suspect or individual does not know any better. My professor at college would be interested to know that you think that his information is wrong.
If you would like his name and phone number just let me know.
You see this is why Pocahontas is so freaking phony. No One in this town is willing to accept information and use it to their advantage they are always right and no one is ever wrong.
If your wrong admitt it.
It states it says "in NO event"
If you have anything else intelligent to say just let me know.
Just bring it on.!!!!
Nobody is perfect but I still see two people on here that doesn't seem to understand that last sentence. I'm not calling anybody a liar but I see it different and it looks like nobody is going to agree. Like the old saying goes "There's always 2 sides of a story and then there is the truth".

Let me give you a scenario all make believe of course but is something that can occur. Now this is just an OPINION

So you are telling me that if I were an officer and I approached you on a legal traffic stop and the smell of alcoholic beverage such as beer/whiskey or marijuana is coming from your vehicle I have to let you go? So does that mean that if I find a bag of dope on you or in your car that if I don't arrest you or write you a ticket within 15 minutes you can drive off?

I don't think so,(just an opinion) simply for the fact that I(as an officer) believe a crime has been committed and I am within the law to detain a suspect(s) until a more complete investigation has been done.
funny but true

Ozark, AL

#44 Dec 13, 2008
I totally do not understand why you can't comprehend, "In NO Event"
We did not say that if a cop smells alcohol or marijuana, that they have to let you go. Show me where either one of us said that. We said according to the 4 Amendment, they can not detain you any longer than 15 minutes without either arresting you, or ticketing you. How simple that statement is. I'm pretty sure it's not us that doesn't understand that last sentence.
funny but true

Ozark, AL

#45 Dec 13, 2008
Let me give you this True scenario. A cop stops a woman for going around a curve on the wrong side of the road. She is drunk. She fails the sobriety field test, she blows above the limit, and is legally drunk. She fights it in court, and the Judge lets her go free, saying everybody drives that way in that curve, therefore, the officer did not have probable cause, or reasonable cause to stop her in the first place. Also 4th Ammendment rights.
As I previously stated, the 4th Ammendment covers a multitude of sins. I'm not saying I agree with this either. But the law is the law. In my "opinion" a lot of people get off because of the 4th Ammendment
chevy trucks

Cabot, AR

#46 Dec 16, 2008
what is all this legal stuff on here about i thought this was about jacked up trucks. i think lifted trucks are pretty cool if its done right on certian vehicles

Since: Dec 08

Champaign, IL

#47 Dec 16, 2008
I don't know either but I love jacked up trucks too.
LoveEm

Ozark, AL

#48 Dec 16, 2008
Jacked up trucks are SWEET!!
well

Ozark, AL

#49 Dec 16, 2008
chevy trucks wrote:
what is all this legal stuff on here about i thought this was about jacked up trucks. i think lifted trucks are pretty cool if its done right on certian vehicles
speaking of legal -
in arkansas -
is there a height limit on the bumper -
and on extension of tires outside the fender?
maybe

Caplinger Mills, MO

#50 Dec 16, 2008
chevy trucks wrote:
what is all this legal stuff on here about i thought this was about jacked up trucks. i think lifted trucks are pretty cool if its done right on certian vehicles
Because one thing lead to another. Just like normal conversation.
maybe

Caplinger Mills, MO

#51 Dec 16, 2008
leads
Just Curious

Ozark, AL

#52 Dec 18, 2008
Why is it that yall think your so cool threatening to kick someone's ass because they have a jacked up truck. The only reason your bitching it because you are either jealous or because you get pissed everytime they get behind you because they headlights are beaming off the top of your head. The only reason you want to kick anyone's ass is because your jealous that you can't afford to do the or because you don't know how to handle a jacked up truck. And why is it on every forum that some dumbass thinks that they no everything and has to bring another topic into a forum that has nothing to do with that forum. Please everyone needs to get a life and stop trying to knock every one that they are jealous off or pissed off at because they can't have it.
Tim

Fayetteville, WV

#53 Dec 18, 2008
Jacked up trucks are gay. They havn't been "cool" in years.
funny but true

Lake Saint Louis, MO

#54 Dec 18, 2008
Just Curious wrote:
Why is it that yall think your so cool threatening to kick someone's ass because they have a jacked up truck. The only reason your bitching it because you are either jealous or because you get pissed everytime they get behind you because they headlights are beaming off the top of your head. The only reason you want to kick anyone's ass is because your jealous that you can't afford to do the or because you don't know how to handle a jacked up truck. And why is it on every forum that some dumbass thinks that they no everything and has to bring another topic into a forum that has nothing to do with that forum. Please everyone needs to get a life and stop trying to knock every one that they are jealous off or pissed off at because they can't have it.
I believe I can say anything on any forum, that I want to say, and what are you going to do about it dumbass. Tell me big boy, what ya going do. Can you stop me. NOOOOO, you can't. And I can afford it, because I have the best jacked up truck you will ever lay eyes on. And it's paid for.
Just Curious

Ozark, AL

#55 Dec 19, 2008
Only to you Tim are jacked up trucks not cool! That's why there is a show in Springfirld MO every year for jacked up trucks and that why the moster trucks are still around. Because there not cool right! Get your shit straight before you talk. As for you funny but true, i seriuosly doubt that your truck is better than mine. Thats why we have one shows and have trophy's for our truck cause your is better.
Jack er up

Champaign, IL

#56 Dec 19, 2008
my truck is jacked up and my woman is not fat and im happy
guest

Cabot, AR

#57 Dec 19, 2008
right on everyone is just jealous because their little truck isnt as big or bad as a lifted truck
Big man

Mountain Home, AR

#58 Dec 31, 2008
lol my truck isnt lifted cuz its 2wd...so i made it a fast truck...if it were a 4wd u bet ur ass it wud be lifted cuz thats BAD ASS....and ur gonna pull ass with it although i can in my bad ass chevy lol....but yeah i mean this is pokey arkansas and big trucks are the shit guess this dude dosent like girls much cuz girls be liken the trucks and he not liken them...wat a fag lol
who cares

Magnolia, AR

#59 Jan 5, 2009
why does it matter what people drive?
get over it. its not your money that's wasted.
leave it alone.
nlh

Menifee, AR

#60 Feb 28, 2009
I'm guessing the people that are mad about loud jacked up trucks are people that drive little $300 cars

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