More than 1,000 dead birds fall from sky in Ark

Jan 2, 2011 Full story: news.yahoo.com 10,144

BEEBE, Ark. Wildlife officials are trying to determine what caused more than 1,000 blackbirds to die and fall from the sky over an Arkansas town.

The Arkansas Game and Fish Commission said Saturday that it began receiving reports about the dead birds about 11:30 p.m. the previous night. The birds fell over a 1-mile area of Beebe, and an aerial survey indicated that no other dead birds were found outside of that area. Full Story

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#9067 Feb 22, 2013
Churmudgeon wrote:
<quoted text>When we where feeding the birds the hawks never hunted. they just staked out our feeders full time. They killed lots of cardinals. the number of birds that congreated at our feeders was much greater than those who gather around a mud puddle or tree full of berries( you already knew that anyhow) and at first there where just two then the sparrow hawk numbers increased I seen seven oneday sitting around patiently waiting for a easy meal. Thats when we stopped feeding the winter birds. We still feed the humming birds. Also those small sparrow hawks attracted larger hawks. and the larger Hawks want to kill my pigeons & chickens. I fasten up my poultry at nite. There are owls that hunt rats & mice I dont mind the owls because my poultry are safe from them.
"When we where feeding the birds the hawks never hunted. they just staked out our feeders full time.'
The same can be said for alot of hunters, including the human kind who sit over a bait pile. When one needs to eat, I guess acquiring food becomes more important than the manner in which it is acquired.

If you saw seven hawks in one day, that doesn't mean they were different ones. It could have been the same bird coming and going.

Of course more birds will congregate at the feeders, but that doesn't mean more birds are killed by hawks. It only means you see it more.

I can't wait to start my owl hunt this weekend.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#9068 Feb 22, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>If you trim that over gown yard of yours in areas you will attract more wildlife.
So says the expert.....
How many bird species have you had in your yard? What's that you got; three acres? I have a half acre and I've positively identified ____ species.
Take a wild guess.
Churmudgeon

Mountain Home, AR

#9069 Feb 22, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
"When we where feeding the birds the hawks never hunted. they just staked out our feeders full time.'
The same can be said for alot of hunters, including the human kind who sit over a bait pile. When one needs to eat, I guess acquiring food becomes more important than the manner in which it is acquired.
If you saw seven hawks in one day, that doesn't mean they were different ones. It could have been the same bird coming and going.
Of course more birds will congregate at the feeders, but that doesn't mean more birds are killed by hawks. It only means you see it more.
I can't wait to start my owl hunt this weekend.
Today I seen a sparrow hawk on the power lines along the highway. And when we where feeding the birds we seen seven sparrow hawk,s all at the same time waiting over the bird feeder Those sparrow hawks where even squabbling among themselves for the prime hunting territory. We seen lots of the red & brownish grey feathers from the cardinals the sparrow hawks killed. It got to where we hardly ever seen a cardinal. Maybe in your local the massacre at feeders dont happen. But birds & hawks winter over in my area. And I hunt deer over a bait feeder. Im not a sportsman Im a meat hunter. I want the meat I only kill young deer less than a year old. I also shoot squrril at my deer feeder. Also I kill crows there too. I dont eat the crows I just hang them on the fence.
milk

West Memphis, AR

#9070 Feb 22, 2013
Please
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#9071 Feb 23, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
So says the expert.....
How many bird species have you had in your yard? What's that you got; three acres? I have a half acre and I've positively identified ____ species.
Take a wild guess.
Let's see just off the top of my head I have had in my yard a bobcat, oryx, cougar, deer, coyote, quail, dove, humming bird, jack rabbit, cotton tail, turtle, frogs, lizards, bugs, dogs, cats, Horned toads, 5 different types of snakes, chickens, pigs, cow, horse, sheep, goat, chinchila, mice, rat, killdeer, hawk, eagle, crow, raven, grakel, sparrow, red headed sparrow, lot's of different colored birds, and an illegal alien, oh I give up these are just a few things that have touched my soil over the past 15 years.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#9073 Feb 23, 2013
Churmudgeon wrote:
<quoted text> Today I seen a sparrow hawk on the power lines along the highway. And when we where feeding the birds we seen seven sparrow hawk,s all at the same time waiting over the bird feeder Those sparrow hawks where even squabbling among themselves for the prime hunting territory. We seen lots of the red & brownish grey feathers from the cardinals the sparrow hawks killed. It got to where we hardly ever seen a cardinal. Maybe in your local the massacre at feeders dont happen. But birds & hawks winter over in my area. And I hunt deer over a bait feeder. Im not a sportsman Im a meat hunter. I want the meat I only kill young deer less than a year old. I also shoot squrril at my deer feeder. Also I kill crows there too. I dont eat the crows I just hang them on the fence.
I have tons of birds and hawks that winter in my area too. I get some different species then what you get, but the predator/prey relationship is alive and well here. Whether they are at the feeders or not, they will still be hunted and eaten. At least the songbirds have an advantage of a reliable food source during inclement weather, when they might otherwise perish.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#9074 Feb 23, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>Let's see just off the top of my head I have had in my yard a bobcat, oryx, cougar, deer, coyote, quail, dove, humming bird, jack rabbit, cotton tail, turtle, frogs, lizards, bugs, dogs, cats, Horned toads, 5 different types of snakes, chickens, pigs, cow, horse, sheep, goat, chinchila, mice, rat, killdeer, hawk, eagle, crow, raven, grakel, sparrow, red headed sparrow, lot's of different colored birds, and an illegal alien, oh I give up these are just a few things that have touched my soil over the past 15 years.
I was talking about species that are alive.
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#9075 Feb 23, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
I was talking about species that are alive.
I am a hunting species!

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#9076 Feb 24, 2013
Churmudgeon wrote:
<quoted text> Today I seen a sparrow hawk on the power lines along the highway. And when we where feeding the birds we seen seven sparrow hawk,s all at the same time waiting over the bird feeder Those sparrow hawks where even squabbling among themselves for the prime hunting territory. We seen lots of the red & brownish grey feathers from the cardinals the sparrow hawks killed. It got to where we hardly ever seen a cardinal. Maybe in your local the massacre at feeders dont happen. But birds & hawks winter over in my area. And I hunt deer over a bait feeder. Im not a sportsman Im a meat hunter. I want the meat I only kill young deer less than a year old. I also shoot squrril at my deer feeder. Also I kill crows there too. I dont eat the crows I just hang them on the fence.
"I only kill young deer less than a year old."
Why kill young deer, who never even had a chance to live, when there are plenty of older ones to choose from?

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#9077 Feb 24, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>I am a hunting species!
"I am a hunting species..........who likely couldn't even count up to the number of bird species you've counted in your beautiful MI wildlife sanctuary."
KMEM

Donetsk, Ukraine

#9078 Feb 24, 2013
You don't have to let your yard become a jungle to attract wildlife. Just a few select plantings of species useful to the animals you want to attract does the trick. For example you could plant radishes for deer. They like the greens. Hazlenuts attract several small mammals such as woodchuck, rabbit and squirrel, as well as turkey. Buttonbush, if you have a wet area, brings in hummingbirds in the early summer months and ducks in the fall and winter.Marijuana will assure you plenty of stoners to watch and enjoy. And finally, a money tree will bring in the hoes and bimbos.
Churmudgeon

Mountain Home, AR

#9079 Feb 24, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
"I only kill young deer less than a year old."
Why kill young deer, who never even had a chance to live, when there are plenty of older ones to choose from?
Young deer are tender & tasty. Who wants to try and chew some old tough meat from a old buck deer. The meat folks purchase in the supermarket mostly is from young animals.The hambuger might be from a old cow. but the chicken and pork comes fron very young animals. Do you know how old a pig lives? the answer is it lives until it weighs 230 pounds. Most pigs gets to 230 pounds in six months.
roy

Oklahoma City, OK

#9080 Feb 24, 2013
More birds
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#9081 Feb 25, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
"I am a hunting species..........who likely couldn't even count up to the number of bird species you've counted in your beautiful MI wildlife sanctuary."
I really don't care about birds even though I have 4 yellow naped amazons. Birds just are not my thing. You probably would have a good time just sitting on my back porch looking at all the birds we get. We get new species in just about every year.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#9082 Feb 25, 2013
Churmudgeon wrote:
<quoted text> Young deer are tender & tasty. Who wants to try and chew some old tough meat from a old buck deer. The meat folks purchase in the supermarket mostly is from young animals.The hambuger might be from a old cow. but the chicken and pork comes fron very young animals. Do you know how old a pig lives? the answer is it lives until it weighs 230 pounds. Most pigs gets to 230 pounds in six months.
I've seen pigs within the human race weigh much less than that.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#9083 Feb 25, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>I really don't care about birds even though I have 4 yellow naped amazons. Birds just are not my thing. You probably would have a good time just sitting on my back porch looking at all the birds we get. We get new species in just about every year.
This comes as no surprise. After all, you're still young.

What's funny is this topic was brought up recently by a coworker. She had mentioned to her husband that as they get older she had feared becoming some old couple that watches birds for fun. Her fear had become a reality for the both of them. LOL. And she admits they are having the time of their life with their new hobby! She always thought birds were the same color and there were only a few kinds.....until she got a (good) pair of binoculars.

I'm SOOO glad I started at a young age. I've had some great birding adventures over the years. I've been to some unheard of, but unique, out of the way places in my quest for new species. Places the average tourist will never see.

Take California Gulch in AZ. With directions like, "This is a rough, rocky road with many steep dips and boulders making travel very slow. Make sure you are driving a high clearance vehicle with a full gas tank and bring plenty of water and a compass. From Interstate Blah blah, 2 tenths of a mile after mile marker 123, turn left onto the two track. Zero your speedometer here. Go 8 tenths of a mile and turn right at the large boulder. There will be a fork in the road. Take the fork to the right for 6 tenths of a mile...... About 30 feet from the road on the right hand side of your vehicle, there is a large clump of Prickly Pear Cactus. Turn left onto the next two track at this cactus and follow the road for another 1 1/2 miles. You will be traveling downhill..... Cross the dry creek bed at the bottom of the ravine and continue uphill for 1/2 mile where you can park on the patch of dirt on the right.(Do not leave any valuables in the vehicle in this area!) Climb on foot up the hill to the east until you have a view into the valley below. Looking towards the north slope of the next hill, there are clumps of switch grass and some Saguaro. The Five-striped Sparrow can be seen singing early in the morning from any elevated perches near the grasses.....Make sure you get out of this area by mid-morning before the sun gets too hot. It can quickly reach 100+ degrees here and there is extreme fire danger in dry weather....This is the only place in the United States to see the Five-striped Sparrow...."

The border patrol thought we were nuts for going in there, but we did! Damn, I wish we would have seen that bird! Oh well, next time.

But you're right, I would enjoy sitting on your back porch watching the birds in your yard. I've been lots of cool places looking for new birds, as well as birds I've already seen but want to see again. Lately I find I'm just as happy seeing the common ones from convenient places.

I know some hunters who have taken to birding as well. Yes, they do both! Maybe not to the extent I do, but it's just another excuse they use to get outdoors and it goes all year long. As you age, you do have something to look forward to.:)
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#9084 Feb 26, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
This comes as no surprise. After all, you're still young.
What's funny is this topic was brought up recently by a coworker. She had mentioned to her husband that as they get older she had feared becoming some old couple that watches birds for fun. Her fear had become a reality for the both of them. LOL. And she admits they are having the time of their life with their new hobby! She always thought birds were the same color and there were only a few kinds.....until she got a (good) pair of binoculars.
I'm SOOO glad I started at a young age. I've had some great birding adventures over the years. I've been to some unheard of, but unique, out of the way places in my quest for new species. Places the average tourist will never see.
Take California Gulch in AZ. With directions like, "This is a rough, rocky road with many steep dips and boulders making travel very slow. Make sure you are driving a high clearance vehicle with a full gas tank and bring plenty of water and a compass. From Interstate Blah blah, 2 tenths of a mile after mile marker 123, turn left onto the two track. Zero your speedometer here. Go 8 tenths of a mile and turn right at the large boulder. There will be a fork in the road. Take the fork to the right for 6 tenths of a mile...... About 30 feet from the road on the right hand side of your vehicle, there is a large clump of Prickly Pear Cactus. Turn left onto the next two track at this cactus and follow the road for another 1 1/2 miles. You will be traveling downhill..... Cross the dry creek bed at the bottom of the ravine and continue uphill for 1/2 mile where you can park on the patch of dirt on the right.(Do not leave any valuables in the vehicle in this area!) Climb on foot up the hill to the east until you have a view into the valley below. Looking towards the north slope of the next hill, there are clumps of switch grass and some Saguaro. The Five-striped Sparrow can be seen singing early in the morning from any elevated perches near the grasses.....Make sure you get out of this area by mid-morning before the sun gets too hot. It can quickly reach 100+ degrees here and there is extreme fire danger in dry weather....This is the only place in the United States to see the Five-striped Sparrow...."
The border patrol thought we were nuts for going in there, but we did! Damn, I wish we would have seen that bird! Oh well, next time.
But you're right, I would enjoy sitting on your back porch watching the birds in your yard. I've been lots of cool places looking for new birds, as well as birds I've already seen but want to see again. Lately I find I'm just as happy seeing the common ones from convenient places.
I know some hunters who have taken to birding as well. Yes, they do both! Maybe not to the extent I do, but it's just another excuse they use to get outdoors and it goes all year long. As you age, you do have something to look forward to.:)
How old do you think I am? I bet we are close in age by the way you talk.
Churmudgeon

Mountain Home, AR

#9086 Feb 26, 2013
Drizzly cold rainy day today. It makes all my joints ache. I seen a cardinal sitting in the tree by the house. It wasnt looking too happy. Maybe he has achy joints too? Any way at least we are having better weather than the Texas & Oklahoma panhandle.Their having record snow. Im ready for green up Im running low of hay. If I had not sold over half of my cattle I would already be out of hay. I culled all the old cows and just kept the best ones.
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#9087 Feb 26, 2013
Churmudgeon wrote:
Drizzly cold rainy day today. It makes all my joints ache. I seen a cardinal sitting in the tree by the house. It wasnt looking too happy. Maybe he has achy joints too? Any way at least we are having better weather than the Texas & Oklahoma panhandle.Their having record snow. Im ready for green up Im running low of hay. If I had not sold over half of my cattle I would already be out of hay. I culled all the old cows and just kept the best ones.
It's nice here. We will probably be in the mid 50's today. I am about to get outside and enjoy it.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#9088 Feb 26, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>How old do you think I am? I bet we are close in age by the way you talk.
I bet you are correct.

I will take a wild guess with some of the clues you've given. You have an eight year old. You claim to be "retired" (from the military or some other government job, I presume.) I come to this conclusion by your statement that you have been around the world and "keeping us safe." I would put your age somewhere between 41 and 46. Since you remember shows like Bonanza, I would tend to lean towards the higher number of 46. Maybe 45.

But I just may be a little older and wiser.:)

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