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speller feller

Conway, AR

#30564 May 7, 2014
BARNEYII wrote:
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OMG- you are not this f*ucking stupid, quite acting like such a knuckle head, you know damn well you either did not read the entire article, or did not read it all before running off at the mouth about it.
The cut and paste below came from the Reuters article you referred to in your post but did not bother to post a link.......... NO worries, I just posted it the second time for you.
Carlisle did not give details of the incidents and the Defense Department and the U.S. Air Force and Navy in the Pacific did not immediately respond to a request for more information.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/06/us -..
Sorry. I don't have anything to add to this wealth of stupid...I just wanted to make sure everyone had the chance to see your brilliance at it's finest.

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#30565 May 7, 2014
speller feller wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry. I don't have anything to add to this wealth of stupid...I just wanted to make sure everyone had the chance to see your brilliance at it's finest
Funny thing how you and Blagg both transposed the letters E and U in Reuters in your post.

Did you take over for that retarded crouch span of yours and finish the post , I see you got Reuters right in the last paragraph?

Now in your post, it contained the same paragraph I cut and pasted. What do you not understand about the General gave no details, and none had been verified. Just that simple.

END OF STORY

So there was a plane off the coast of California, how dam far off the coast was it, was it in US air space, at what date was it off the coast. See- no details

The rest of that story about intercepting air craft in Guam that is all over the web with details of what happen, see any details about the Ca. coast?

I'm not going to explain tonight how the pentagon enters into this deal tonight, but I will damn sure explain it to you tomorrow, but it sure as Hell looks like you might have a clue since the General works there.

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#30566 May 7, 2014
speller feller wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry. I don't have anything to add to this wealth of stupid...I just wanted to make sure everyone had the chance to see your brilliance at it's finest
Looks like I was wrong, you are that f*cking stupid.

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#30567 May 7, 2014
Two Russian bombers have been caught circling the US island of Guam in a 'highly unusual' move some are claiming shows President Vladimir Putin's growing strategic assertiveness towards America.

The aircraft - Russian Tu-95 Bear-H bombers capable of carrying nuclear weapons - flew over the western Pacific island just hours before Obama's state of the union address on Tuesday and were intercepted by Air Force F-15 jets.

Officials insisted the surprise training mission 'stayed professional' and said it was unclear whether the bombers were equipped with nuclear missiles. The bombers remained in international air space, they said.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-22796...

Remained in international air space, how about that?
speller feller

San Jose, CA

#30568 May 7, 2014
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>
Looks like I was wrong, you are that f*cking stupid.
See Barney.
See Barney cuss.
See Barney run.
Run, Barney, run!
speller feller

Conway, AR

#30569 May 7, 2014
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/fa...

FAA Confirms Spy Plane Scrambled Air Traffic Control in California
First published May 5th 2014, 6:47 pm

"The Federal Aviation Administration has confirmed an exclusive NBC News report that a Cold War-era spy plane scrambled the computer systems of a major air traffic control system in Southern California, resulting in region-wide air travel delays affecting hundreds of flights and thousands of passengers.

In a statement, the FAA acknowledged that its air traffic system, which processes flight plan information,“experienced problems while processing a flight plan filed for a U-2 aircraft that operates at very high altitudes under visual flight rules.”
The U-2 spy plane, the same type of aircraft that flew high-altitude spy missions over Russia 50 years ago, passed through the airspace monitored by the L.A. Air Route Traffic Control Center in Palmdale, Calif., around 2 p.m. on Wednesday. The L.A. Center handles landings and departures at the region’s major airports, including Los Angeles International (LAX), San Diego and Las Vegas.

The computers at the L.A. Center are programmed to keep commercial airliners and other aircraft from colliding with each other. According to sources, the U-2 was flying at 60,000 feet, but the computers were attempting to keep it from colliding with planes that were actually miles beneath it.

Though the exact technical causes are not known, the spy plane’s altitude and route apparently overloaded a computer system called ERAM, which generates display data for air-traffic controllers. Back-up computer systems also failed.

“The computer system interpreted the flight as a more typical low altitude operation, and began processing it for a route below 10,000 feet,” said the FAA in its statement.

“The extensive number of routings that would have been required to de-conflict the aircraft with lower-altitude flights," said the FAA, "used a large amount of available memory and interrupted the computer’s other flight-processing functions.”

The FAA had to stop accepting flights into airspace managed by the L.A. Center, issuing a nationwide ground stop that lasted for about an hour.

At LAX, one of the nation’s busiest airports, there were 27 cancellations of arriving flights, as well as 212 delays and 27 diversions to other airports. Twenty-three departing flights were cancelled, while 216 were delayed. There were also delays at the airports in Burbank, Long Beach, Ontario and Orange County and at other airports across the Southwestern U.S.
The agency said that the issues were resolved within an hour and that the system was immediately adjusted and now requires “specific altitude information for each flight plan,” In addition the agency said it has enabled facilities that use the computer system to significantly increase the amount of flight-processing memory available.

“The FAA is confident these steps will prevent a reoccurrence of this specific problem and other potential similar issues going forward,” the FAA statement said.

Developed more than a half-century ago, the U-2 was once a workhorse of U.S. airborne surveillance. The plane’s “operational ceiling” is 70,000 feet. In 1960, Francis Gary Powers was flying a U-2 for the CIA over the Soviet Union when he was shot down. He was held captive by the Russians for two years before being exchanged for a KGB colonel in U.S. custody. A second U.S. U-2 was shot down over Cuba in 1962, killing the pilot."
speller feller

Conway, AR

#30570 May 7, 2014
Barney, CNN and NBC are also reporting this story. They, too, believe the General, and take him at his word, unlike you.

They probably don't know what you know, either.
You better add them to your contact list, and set the record straight!
That list is growing...now you can add the FAA.

You better get busy. That's several calls, and it will take hours before they can even begin to make sense of your cussing rants and accusations towards the General and the lies you are accusing him of.

speller feller

Conway, AR

#30571 May 7, 2014
One more thing, before you begin your next cussing rant at me, and picking and choosing what you want to twist and turn out of this article, just remember that I only posted what NBC determined as fact by confirmation by the FAA.
If you want to 'interpret' the article as false, take it up with NBC...not me. They reported the news. I just shared the article.
speller feller

Conway, AR

#30572 May 7, 2014
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>

...So there was a plane off the coast of California, how dam far off the coast was it, was it in US air space, at what date was it off the coast. See- no details
The rest of that story about intercepting air craft in Guam that is all over the web with details of what happen, see any details about the Ca. coast?
I'm not going to explain tonight how the pentagon enters into this deal tonight, but I will damn sure explain it to you tomorrow, but it sure as Hell looks like you might have a clue since the General works there.
Barney. Are you asking me questions that can only be answered by national security? There are no details because they do not owe you details, you big dope!
Not one news outlet that is reporting this...CNN, NBC, CBS, Reuters and others are questioning this idiotic idea of details.
That is the difference in those with intelligence that find and report news, as opposed to moronic idiots that can't understand the news.

And seriously, you explain to me the ins and outs of the Pentagon? You can do that after you continue to post several more posts about this verification/detail thing! It's priceless!!
speller feller

Conway, AR

#30573 May 7, 2014
And Barney, the Pentagon didn't verify this United States spy plane did this. The FAA said so. Does this mean it didn't happen?
speller feller

Conway, AR

#30574 May 8, 2014
This is what the US Air Force confirms:http://www.techtimes. com/articles/6552/20140507/u-2 -spy-plane-mysterious-computer -glitch-disrupted-lax.htm

"The US Air Force has denied reports that one of their U2 aircraft caused a severe problem with electronics at LAX airport at Los Angeles.
There was a U2 Dragon Lady aircraft in flight in the area at the time of the glitch, the military stated. Still they deny popular reports the spy plane was on a secret mission or that it was responsible for the incident.
"We can confirm the U2 did not cause the air traffic control system to fail," Air Force officials told the press. "

You can post the rest of the article if you want to.
The point is, this story was confirmed to be true by the FAA, and it was also confirmed to be false by the Air Force.

Barney, in the matters of national security and for the protection of the people, you are not the first priority in the verification nor the denial process! Nor should any of us be!

The same holds true for the Russian fighter planes that a General in the United States Air Force said to be truth.
No one but you wants it verified.

The spy plane story was verified truth by FAA, and was verified false by the Air Force.
Who do you believe?

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#30575 May 8, 2014
speller feller wrote:
This is what the US Air Force confirms:http://www.techtimes. com/articles/6552/20140507/u-2 -spy-plane-mysterious-computer -glitch-disrupted-lax.htm
"The US Air Force has denied reports that one of their U2 aircraft caused a severe problem with electronics at LAX airport at Los Angeles.
There was a U2 Dragon Lady aircraft in flight in the area at the time of the glitch, the military stated. Still they deny popular reports the spy plane was on a secret mission or that it was responsible for the incident.
"We can confirm the U2 did not cause the air traffic control system to fail," Air Force officials told the press. "
You can post the rest of the article if you want to.
The point is, this story was confirmed to be true by the FAA, and it was also confirmed to be false by the Air Force.
Barney, in the matters of national security and for the protection of the people, you are not the first priority in the verification nor the denial process! Nor should any of us be!
The same holds true for the Russian fighter planes that a General in the United States Air Force said to be truth.
No one but you wants it verified.
The spy plane story was verified truth by FAA, and was verified false by the Air Force.
Who do you believe?
The Devil is in the details, the General gave no details, nor did anybody else according to Reuters article. Its as simple as that,

NO F*CKING DETAILS

YOUR own damn post points points to ambiguity in the details.

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#30576 May 8, 2014
speller feller wrote:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/in vestigations/faa-confirms-spy- plane-scrambled-air-traffic-co ntrol-california-n97751
FAA Confirms Spy Plane Scrambled Air Traffic Control in California
First published May 5th 2014, 6:47 pm
"The Federal Aviation Administration has confirmed an exclusive NBC News report that a Cold War-era spy plane scrambled the computer systems of a major air traffic control system in Southern California, resulting in region-wide air travel delays affecting hundreds of flights and thousands of passengers.
In a statement, the FAA acknowledged that its air traffic system, which processes flight plan information,“experienced problems while processing a flight plan filed for a U-2 aircraft that operates at very high altitudes under visual flight rules.”
The U-2 spy plane, the same type of aircraft that flew high-altitude spy missions over Russia 50 years ago, passed through the airspace monitored by the L.A. Air Route Traffic Control Center in Palmdale, Calif., around 2 p.m. on Wednesday. The L.A. Center handles landings and departures at the region’s major airports, including Los Angeles International (LAX), San Diego and Las Vegas.
The computers at the L.A. Center are programmed to keep commercial airliners and other aircraft from colliding with each other. According to sources, the U-2 was flying at 60,000 feet, but the computers were attempting to keep it from colliding with planes that were actually miles beneath it.
Though the exact technical causes are not known, the spy plane’s altitude and route apparently overloaded a computer system called ERAM, which generates display data for air-traffic controllers. Back-up computer systems also failed.
“The computer system interpreted the flight as a more typical low altitude operation, and began processing it for a route below 10,000 feet,” said the FAA in its statement.
“The extensive number of routings that would have been required to de-conflict the aircraft with lower-altitude flights," said the FAA, "used a large amount of available memory and interrupted the computer’s other flight-processing functions.”
The FAA had to stop accepting flights into airspace managed by the L.A. Center, issuing a nationwide ground stop that lasted for about an hour.
At LAX, one of the nation’s busiest airports, there were 27 cancellations of arriving flights, as well as 212 delays and 27 diversions to other airports. Twenty-three departing flights were cancelled, while 216 were delayed. There were also delays at the airports in Burbank, Long Beach, Ontario and Orange County and at other airports across the Southwestern U.S.
The agency said that the issues were resolved within an hour and that the system was immediately adjusted and now requires “specific altitude information for each flight plan,” In addition the agency said it has enabled facilities that use the computer system to significantly increase the amount of flight-processing memory available.
“The FAA is confident these steps will prevent a reoccurence of this specific problem and other potential similar issues going forward,” the FAA statement said.
Developed more than a half-century ago, the U-2 was once a workhorse of U.S. airborne surveillance. The plane’s “operational ceiling” is 70,000 feet. In 1960, Francis Gary Powers was flying a U-2 for the CIA over the Soviet Union when he was shot down. He was held captive by the Russians for two years before being exchanged for a KGB colonel in U.S. custody. A second U.S. U-2 was shot down over Cuba in 1962, killing the pilot."
Now that is what I am talking about DETAILS, but if I was you I would not be to concerned it was US air craft not Russian..........LMFAO

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#30577 May 8, 2014
speller feller wrote:
And Barney, the Pentagon didn't verify this United States spy plane did this. The FAA said so. Does this mean it didn't happen?
Nope, it means WTF does your cut and paste have to do with a Russian plane off the coast of California.

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#30578 May 8, 2014
speller feller wrote:
<quoted text>
Barney. Are you asking me questions that can only be answered by national security? There are no details because they do not owe you details, you big dope!
Not one news outlet that is reporting this...CNN, NBC, CBS, Reuters and others are questioning this idiotic idea of details.
That is the difference in those with intelligence that find and report news, as opposed to moronic idiots that can't understand the news.
And seriously, you explain to me the ins and outs of the Pentagon? You can do that after you continue to post several more posts about this verification/detail thing! It's priceless!!
"Ins and outs of the Pentagon"

Sorry I can not help you much there, but let me explain something to you, you don.t have to know much about the Pentagon in this situation of the General, Pentagon, and a think tank.

The people the General made his remarks to was a think tank.

A think tank founded, by Republicans and several former Republican politicians on the board of directors of this tank.

This think tank is very successful at obtaining money for Pentagon Projects.

Projects under the Generals command.

You see, the General, also known as Hawk, was speaking to a jury of his Peers.

He did not give any details of which he spoke, nor did he need to, they were looking for red meat and that is what the Hawk gave them .

Are you follow the money, I mean following me so far?

As you post said, the General brought up the Guam incident, the General failed to add the detail that it happen in international air space.

No need to tell them that, that would not help much at all to obtain money for the Dept. of Defense would it?

Russian Planes flying in international air space, we need more money now, we can't have those Rouskies flying around in international air space.

So there you go, money for war mongering, less money and cuts in for veteran benefits from the Republican majority House.

It's a great day to be a Republican.

For Veterans- not so much.
guest

United States

#30580 May 8, 2014
Too bad you guys don't have girlfriends.
Speller feller

Euless, TX

#30581 May 8, 2014
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>
"Ins and outs of the Pentagon"
Sorry I can not help you much there, but let me explain something to you, you don.t have to know much about the Pentagon in this situation of the General, Pentagon, and a think tank.
The people the General made his remarks to was a think tank.
A think tank founded, by Republicans and several former Republican politicians on the board of directors of this tank.
This think tank is very successful at obtaining money for Pentagon Projects.
Projects under the Generals command.
You see, the General, also known as Hawk, was speaking to a jury of his Peers.
He did not give any details of which he spoke, nor did he need to, they were looking for red meat and that is what the Hawk gave them .
Are you follow the money, I mean following me so far?
As you post said, the General brought up the Guam incident, the General failed to add the detail that it happen in international air space.
No need to tell them that, that would not help much at all to obtain money for the Dept. of Defense would it?
Russian Planes flying in international air space, we need more money now, we can't have those Rouskies flying around in international air space.
So there you go, money for war mongering, less money and cuts in for veteran benefits from the Republican majority House.
It's a great day to be a Republican.
For Veterans- not so much.
It's a better day not to be Barney!
No details means it's none of our business.
Idiot.
Big idiot.
guest

Lake Villa, IL

#30582 May 8, 2014
I can tell you exactly where I was the 24 hours before this happened,
updated 2/23/2008 12:15:22 PM ET
Print Font:
HAGATNA, Guam — A B-2 stealth bomber plunged to the ground shortly after taking off from an air base in Guam on Saturday, the first time one has crashed, but both pilots ejected safely, Air Force officials said.
The aircraft was taking off with three others on their last flight out of Guam after a four-month deployment, part of a continuous U.S. bomber presence in the western Pacific. After the crash, the other three bombers were being kept on Guam, said Maj. Eric Hilliard at Hickham Air Force Base in Hawaii.
At least one B-2 bomber had taken off safely from Andersen Air Force Base but was brought back when another aircraft plunged to the ground.
There were no injuries on the ground or damage to buildings, and no munitions were on board. Each B-2 bomber costs about $1.2 billion to build.
guest

Lake Villa, IL

#30583 May 8, 2014
Or the twenty four hours before this happened,
HONOLULU -- A man who was killed when the mast broke on a whale-watching catamaran, sinking the boat, died of blunt trauma to the head, an autopsy found Tuesday.

Authorities were still investigating what caused the Kiele V's mast to fall Sunday on Hal Pulfer, 48, of Highland Park, Ill.

The catamaran was nearly two miles off Maui in rough, 6-foot waves at the time, the Coast Guard said. Winds were 20 to 30 mph.

Gemini tour boat captain JD DuShane, who responded to the accident, told The Honolulu Advertiser that a nurse aboard the Kiele V worked for half an hour to revive Pulfer, who was sitting on the right front part of the catamaran when he apparently was struck by the falling mast and rigging lines.

About 50 passengers were rescued from the Kiele V as it foundered and were taken to shore by other whale-watching boats, witnesses said.

"They were shook up," DuShane said. "They were very, very relieved to get on the boat. They had been through a very harrowing situation."

Two passengers, a couple from the island of Kauai, were taken to a hospital. The 46-year-old woman was in stable condition Tuesday with head trauma, an eye injury and various broken bones, while the 57-year-old man was treated for cuts and bruises and released, said Mahina Martin, Maui County information officer.

Pulfer, who was on the cruise with his wife and three children, was president of Mundelein, Ill.-based Security Locknut Inc., a specialty fastener company.

A helicopter spotted the wreckage of the Kiele V late Monday near the island of Molokai. The boat was broken up and part of the hull was on a reef, Coast Guard Petty Officer Michael DeNysc said.

The boat operated by Hyatt Regency Maui Resort and Spa had broken its mast twice before, records show. It broke at sea in 1991 and at a dry dock in 1996, but there were no injuries. The boat was inspected by the Coast Guard in September and was certified for safe use for the next five years.

Sunday's death was the second aboard a Hawaii tour catamaran in less than four months. In December, a 13-year-old California boy was killed when a mast snapped in brisk winds, pinning him.

Some things just kind of stick with you
Speller feller

Euless, TX

#30584 May 8, 2014
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>
Now that is what I am talking about DETAILS, but if I was you I would not be to concerned it was US air craft not Russian..........LMFAO
Stop laughing, idiot!
You are such an easy tool

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