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Redd

Little Rock, AR

#28309 Dec 13, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
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I hear what you are implying so read the last sentence of my post again. I, nor anyone else, except God, has the authority to judge anyone. What I stated prior to my last sentence is a matter of fact, not opinion.
Which God...the white one or the middle eastern Jew....and is Santa Claus white,
Fraud Alert

United States

#28310 Dec 13, 2013
Let us pray,
Oh Great poobah, Allah,(insert your title here)
Save us from the men in Washington !
We are powerless!
Our political system is at a stalemate, we have given free rein to a Congress that is out of control.
Our nation is living on credit that is strangling any hope of recovery.
The common man cannot be heard for the din of corruption.
If and when we quit praying and do something about our problem,
How about inspiration ?
Reality Check

Lonoke, AR

#28311 Dec 13, 2013
Redd wrote:
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SOS
Never mind that it is no longer required of the wealthiest Americans to actually care about employing the the lower classes to help them make a profit at whatever endeavor they control, they are now richer than ever from Republican tax breaks and overseas investment.
Convenient of you to blame others for the complete failure your masters have helped bring America.
No masters here. I find it odd that you support those who want to raise up the poor by stealing from other people while you demonize those being stolen from for not allowing their employees to make a profit. I have never seen an employee risk capital into a company so they can make a profit from their own money. I guess you want the perceived rich to be stolen from by the government on one end and willingly give up whatever they have left on the other end to support those who 95% could support themselves if they wanted to. Where business owners get mad is that the 95% could work but don't want to because they might have to start at the bottom somewhere and work their way up just like 95% of all successful people did. They simply want to walk to the mailbox and pick up their free check. I don't see how someone such as yourself and Barney can't see that especially since you guys are both military and you know how hard you have to work to succeed at anything. How you lose that is beyond me.
Redd

Little Rock, AR

#28312 Dec 13, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
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No masters here. I find it odd that you support those who want to raise up the poor by stealing from other people while you demonize those being stolen from for not allowing their employees to make a profit. I have never seen an employee risk capital into a company so they can make a profit from their own money. I guess you want the perceived rich to be stolen from by the government on one end and willingly give up whatever they have left on the other end to support those who 95% could support themselves if they wanted to. Where business owners get mad is that the 95% could work but don't want to because they might have to start at the bottom somewhere and work their way up just like 95% of all successful people did. They simply want to walk to the mailbox and pick up their free check. I don't see how someone such as yourself and Barney can't see that especially since you guys are both military and you know how hard you have to work to succeed at anything. How you lose that is beyond me.
You assume too much, something obviously has to be done to bring our Welfare State under control, that's a given..no question. Medicare and Social Security don't fall under my definition of welfare since most of us have, in good faith, paid in what the government has required.

I personally could care less what or how a person spends their money, envy is not in my vocabulary, all I've ever really cared about is the security and welfare of my family..which includes their right to conduct themselves as they see fit, within the law. Republicans represent a threat to those rights...and I can't understand any red blooded American not understanding the purpose of founding of this great nation and the obstacles facing those great men and the freedom they sought.

While many think returning to a simpler time is the answer, nothing could be further from reality. I think it's almost an impossible task, at this point, to ever again dominate our modern world, we must progress or be left to a very uncertain future.
Reality Check

Lonoke, AR

#28313 Dec 13, 2013
Redd wrote:
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You assume too much, something obviously has to be done to bring our Welfare State under control, that's a given..no question. Medicare and Social Security don't fall under my definition of welfare since most of us have, in good faith, paid in what the government has required.
I personally could care less what or how a person spends their money, envy is not in my vocabulary, all I've ever really cared about is the security and welfare of my family..which includes their right to conduct themselves as they see fit, within the law. Republicans represent a threat to those rights...and I can't understand any red blooded American not understanding the purpose of founding of this great nation and the obstacles facing those great men and the freedom they sought.
While many think returning to a simpler time is the answer, nothing could be further from reality. I think it's almost an impossible task, at this point, to ever again dominate our modern world, we must progress or be left to a very uncertain future.
You talk about SS and Medicare. I'm sure you know that your SS and Medicare checks are supplied by the payroll taxes paid in by companies in business today and their employees. Knowing that, surly you understand that today's declining workforce numbers puts an enormous strain on the viability of those programs. Combine the declining workforce numbers with record numbers getting on welfare and similar programs, which also have to come out of the pockets of today's working class, and you end up where we are today. I'm not sure what you mean by your family conducting themselves as they see fit but I hope it doesn't mean that you would support a family member that could work but would choose not to because welfare benefits add up to enough to stay alive without working. Look, I'm a guy that wants to help those in need as much as anyone but when I see those that could work but won't, I have very little desire to give them anything free. I would be more than happy to help them help themselves but I won't GIVE them anything. Now those that have had circumstances fall on them that has caused them to not be able to help themselves, I am more than willing to give them the help they need. I simply don't see the mechanism in the liberal Democrat ideology that encourages citizens to help themselves but I do see a lot of Democrats encouraging citizens to fight for their right to be able to get their fair share of someone else's earnings and that bothers me.

As for the founding of this country, you do understand that our founders were fighting to get away from a government like the one Obama is trying to put in place today? If you don't then you have gotten the wrong information.
Redd

Little Rock, AR

#28314 Dec 14, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
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You talk about SS and Medicare. I'm sure you know that your SS and Medicare checks are supplied by the payroll taxes paid in by companies in business today and their employees. Knowing that, surly you understand that today's declining workforce numbers puts an enormous strain on the viability of those programs. Combine the declining workforce numbers with record numbers getting on welfare and similar programs, which also have to come out of the pockets of today's working class, and you end up where we are today. I'm not sure what you mean by your family conducting themselves as they see fit but I hope it doesn't mean that you would support a family member that could work but would choose not to because welfare benefits add up to enough to stay alive without working. Look, I'm a guy that wants to help those in need as much as anyone but when I see those that could work but won't, I have very little desire to give them anything free. I would be more than happy to help them help themselves but I won't GIVE them anything. Now those that have had circumstances fall on them that has caused them to not be able to help themselves, I am more than willing to give them the help they need. I simply don't see the mechanism in the liberal Democrat ideology that encourages citizens to help themselves but I do see a lot of Democrats encouraging citizens to fight for their right to be able to get their fair share of someone else's earnings and that bothers me.
As for the founding of this country, you do understand that our founders were fighting to get away from a government like the one Obama is trying to put in place today? If you don't then you have gotten the wrong information.
Unfortunately, you and I will never understand one another...and that's OK. Your definition of the ails that hound Medicare, the Nation, ignores the reasons leading up to this disaster. And why shouldn't you, you're a Republican, any legislation supporting big business and the top 10% passed in the past is good for America....to hell with less connected Americans.

Is there now not, here in America, a growing similarity between the ruling classes in Europe and the disadvantages they presented, that drove huge masses of immigrants away from the Old World to the New? Too bad there's no new frontier available to lay waste to, to royally screw up.

But it's all the Democrats fault..Right?...more so Obama Right?

I would hate to end up in a Republican Heaven...hope there's one available to the rest of us blood suckers.
Redd

Little Rock, AR

#28315 Dec 14, 2013
Anyway...Merry Christmas to all...and to all a goodnight.
Reality Check

Lonoke, AR

#28316 Dec 14, 2013
Redd wrote:
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Unfortunately, you and I will never understand one another...and that's OK. Your definition of the ails that hound Medicare, the Nation, ignores the reasons leading up to this disaster. And why shouldn't you, you're a Republican, any legislation supporting big business and the top 10% passed in the past is good for America....to hell with less connected Americans.
Is there now not, here in America, a growing similarity between the ruling classes in Europe and the disadvantages they presented, that drove huge masses of immigrants away from the Old World to the New? Too bad there's no new frontier available to lay waste to, to royally screw up.
But it's all the Democrats fault..Right?...more so Obama Right?
I would hate to end up in a Republican Heaven...hope there's one available to the rest of us blood suckers.
Not a Republican. I'm a conservative independent. I'm not advocating so much for the 10% as I am for the next 50% that are forced to pay for more than we can afford to support the next 40%. 95% of which abuse the system to one degree or another. I see it every day in the town where I live and I don't think my town is an anomaly. My problem with progressives is they are careless in labeling groups. They take a business like mine and automatically assume that I practice business like huge corporations that do get huge tax breaks. I don't. You talk about the reasons for this disaster, does it even matter what led up to this? Can we go back in time and change it? Both Democrat and Republican were responsible for the bind we currently find ourselves in. What matters is how we attack the problem now and not what caused it. You talk about the similarity of America today and the ruling class in Europe. I have been saying for years that we are on the same road as European countries like Greece. We are just not as far down that road as they are. They practice Socialism and we are trying to practice Socialism. We see what's happened to their countries and we simply ignore it and press forward. America was the only nation that chose a different road than all the other nations in the world and we became, far and away, the most wealthy, powerful, and free nation this world has ever seen. We have left that road and now we are being lowered to the same level as those nations who used to look up to us for the freedom and prosperity we had. Again, it doesn't matter what happened in the past to get us to this point, only what happens from this point on. I do agree with you that I'm not sure we have what it takes to make the tough choices that it will take to climb out of the hole we find ourselves in. We have to stop digging first. Given your last post, I am even more confused as to how you don't see this. You list the problems we are facing and even say we are like the countries who have already tried what we are doing right now then turn around and say that the policies that are completely opposite of what we are doing now are anti-American. You can't have it both ways. It's one or the other.
confused

Leeds, UK

#28318 Dec 14, 2013
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Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#28319 Dec 14, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
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Not a Republican. I'm a conservative independent. I'm not advocating so much for the 10% as I am for the next 50% that are forced to pay for more than we can afford to support the next 40%. 95% of which abuse the system to one degree or another. I see it every day in the town where I live and I don't think my town is an anomaly. My problem with progressives is they are careless in labeling groups. They take a business like mine and automatically assume that I practice business like huge corporations that do get huge tax breaks. I don't. You talk about the reasons for this disaster, does it even matter what led up to this? Can we go back in time and change it? Both Democrat and Republican were responsible for the bind we currently find ourselves in. What matters is how we attack the problem now and not what caused it. You talk about the similarity of America today and the ruling class in Europe. I have been saying for years that we are on the same road as European countries like Greece. We are just not as far down that road as they are. They practice Socialism and we are trying to practice Socialism. We see what's happened to their countries and we simply ignore it and press forward. America was the only nation that chose a different road than all the other nations in the world and we became, far and away, the most wealthy, powerful, and free nation this world has ever seen. We have left that road and now we are being lowered to the same level as those nations who used to look up to us for the freedom and prosperity we had. Again, it doesn't matter what happened in the past to get us to this point, only what happens from this point on. I do agree with you that I'm not sure we have what it takes to make the tough choices that it will take to climb out of the hole we find ourselves in. We have to stop digging first. Given your last post, I am even more confused as to how you don't see this. You list the problems we are facing and even say we are like the countries who have already tried what we are doing right now then turn around and say that the policies that are completely opposite of what we are doing now are anti-American. You can't have it both ways. It's one or the other

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In the top 50% of the top 90%.

So there is the answer to a question I ask you previously that you choose to side step and not answer.

You consider your self in the upper class I see.

But yet, " forced to pay for more than we can afford ".

HUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM !
Joemarv

Pittsburgh, PA

#28320 Dec 14, 2013
Reality Check

Lonoke, AR

#28321 Dec 14, 2013
BARNEYII wrote:
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In the top 50% of the top 90%.
So there is the answer to a question I ask you previously that you choose to side step and not answer.
You consider your self in the upper class I see.
But yet, " forced to pay for more than we can afford ".
HUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM !
How many classes do you count in my post? I'll help you out. 10%, 50%, and 40%. Now how many choices of class did I have in your question? I'll help you out again, Upper and lower. You simply pulled the liberal trick of data manipulation to fit what you want it to say and not what it actually says. HUMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#28325 Dec 15, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>
How many classes do you count in my post? I'll help you out. 10%, 50%, and 40%. Now how many choices of class did I have in your question? I'll help you out again, Upper and lower. You simply pulled the liberal trick of data manipulation to fit what you want it to say and not what it actually says. HUMMMMMMMMMMMMM
" I'm not advocating so much for the 10% as I am for the next 50% "

No manipulation, just reading what you wrote.

"we can afford to support the next 40%

Now I ask you sir, how many of those three classes did you relate yourself too.

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#28326 Dec 15, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
How is your "hope and change" working out for you? Obama has been President for 5 years and the only major accomplishment people can remember is his Health Care debacle. have you been able to sign up? Can you keep your plan and your doctor? Yet we still have fools believing in him. Speaks volumes about liberals

Hope and change is working well for me, thanks for asking.

Tell me, why is it you refer to "Health Care", as his "only major accomplishment", and yet in the same sentence refer to it as a " debacle" ?

Please allow me to bring you up to date.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>

Cumulative Highlights for the period: October 1 – November 30
Marketplace Website and Call Center Activity
• Visitors on the SBM and FFM websites: 39.1 million
• Calls to the SBM and FFM call centers: 5.2 million
Marketplace Applications and Applicants
• Completed Applications submitted to the SBMs and FFM: 1.8 million
• Total Persons Applying for Coverage in Completed Applications submitted to the SBMs and FFM: 3.7 million
Marketplace Eligibility Determinations and Plan Selection
• Total Persons Determined Eligible to Enroll in a Marketplace plan by the SBMs and FFM: 2.3 million
• Number of Eligible Persons who have Selected a Plan through the SBMs and FFM: nearly 365,000
• Number of Eligible Persons who have Not Yet Selected a Marketplace Plan through the SBMs and FFM: 1.9 million
• Total Persons Determined or Assessed Eligible for Medicaid/CHIP by the SBMs and FFM: over 803,000
• Number of Persons who have Selected a Marketplace Plan or had a Medicaid/CHIP Determination or Assessment: 1.2 million
Figure 1 shows that the cumulative number of persons who have selected a Marketplace plan through the FFM has increased considerably since the end of the first month, as progress has been made in resolving technical issues. In all Marketplaces – SBM and FFM – more than a quarter million enrollees were added in November alone, with FFM plan selection in November outpacing that of October by more than four times.

http://aspe.hhs.gov/health/reports/2013/Marke...

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#28331 Dec 15, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>How many Americans lost their PLAN and their doctor and what Obama Care Plan did you sign up for?

How many lost their plan, I would say just about everyone who bought a plan that did not meet the requirements of the Affordable Care Act in the interim between March 23, 2010 and
Jan, 2014.

March 23, 2010 was the day that the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) became law. Since then private individual and family plans and private group health insurance plans are classified as one of two groups. The groups are:

1. Health insurance plans that were implemented after the act was passed and;

2.“Grandfathered” plans which went into effect before the act passed.

In most cases your health insurance provider will make you aware if you have to switch plans for 2015. Some States with working health insurance marketplaces, like Washington State, have rejected the new 2015 deadline and will enforce the original 2014

You need to be asking yourself how many of these people gained a better plan than the one they had.

Then you should just sit back and smile and think how a upper class individual like yourself, who took full responsibility for his actions ,and worked hard an invested wisely, can save some of that hard earned money on his OWN health insurance because there are a whole lot less uninsured people who he is picking up the health care tab for.

Now that is one Hell of a debacle you have to deal with, isn't it ?

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#28334 Dec 15, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
Obama just disenfranchised,(I used that word because libs LOVE that word) 93 MILLION AMERICANS! Just 93 MILLION, no big deal when you have a liberal agenda to pass!
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/201...
LMFAO, you used that word because you have heard another idiot loosely throw the term around as you just did with no idea what the Hell you just said.

To disenfranchise, you would be stripping a group of people of their power.

With the ACH doing away with life time limits and pre-existing conditions limitations, adding subsidies, you are in fact enabling those disenfranchised to buy insurance.

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#28338 Dec 15, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
Did you sign up for Obama Care Barney? You always avoid that question.

Your Phishing is lacking results as always.

Keep trying, it is amusing.

What was that Dr. Einstein said about doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result?

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#28340 Dec 15, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>So stripping a persons power (or a families power which is a group of people) of choice away from him like not allowing him to have the plan of his choice or doctor of his choice is not to disenfranchise one? Interesting liberal logic.
Obviously that would be disenfranchise of a particular choice.

On the flip side of that coin you could disenfranchise the same group of a particular choice buy not allowing then to purchase a better plan.

Not everyone will choose the inadequate plan they now own, and if you qualify fob subsidies it is even less likely or logical to keep the old plan.

Unless you are in a HMO, or PPO chances of any effect on Dr. choice is slim. How many Dr.'s have you seen that turns a person away who posses insurance that pays?

How many get turn away for no, or inadequate, insurance?

100% would be a fair guess in my opinion.

Where do they go then?

THE EMERGENCY ROOM.

Who picks up the tab then?

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#28342 Dec 15, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>So stripping a persons power (or a families power which is a group of people) of choice away from him like not allowing him to have the plan of his choice or doctor of his choice is not to disenfranchise one? Interesting liberal logic.
The bottom line here is, you are wanting to enable those you claim to be "disenfranchised" to cause (possibly you, and I have my doubts) and everyone else who pays a premium for health insurance to pay a higher premium.

No logic there, just bad economics from one who prides himself on being so astute in that category.

Makes me wonder what made you so ignorant of it all a sudden.
Fo Show

Bexar, AR

#28343 Dec 15, 2013
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>
Obviously that would be disenfranchise of a particular choice.
On the flip side of that coin you could disenfranchise the same group of a particular choice buy not allowing then to purchase a better plan.
Not everyone will choose the inadequate plan they now own, and if you qualify fob subsidies it is even less likely or logical to keep the old plan.
Unless you are in a HMO, or PPO chances of any effect on Dr. choice is slim. How many Dr.'s have you seen that turns a person away who posses insurance that pays?
How many get turn away for no, or inadequate, insurance?
100% would be a fair guess in my opinion.
Where do they go then?
THE EMERGENCY ROOM.
Who picks up the tab then?
Not working today Barney?
I thought so, saving up for the Gay party there at the greasy spoon must be hard especially when those young boys come by and you have to pay them for a blow.

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