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NUTS

United States

#27875 Nov 12, 2013
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>And President Obama took office in Jan. 2009, what is your point?

There were 3.8 million job openings at the end of June, up 105,000 from the previous month and the most since July 2008. That is also 1.6 million more openings than when the market hit bottom in July 2009.

All of the gains in May came in the private sector. The number of open government jobs declined in June, as it had in two of the preceding three months.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/11/business/ec...
The job creation in the private sector has ,for years, been in low paying jobs. Until recently an hourly worker did get 39 hours per week. However with Obamacare those jobs have been split and there are two people getting 19 hours per week. So an additional job is created as the company has to have the same number of employees to service their customers. Thus job creation.
Reality Check

Little Rock, AR

#27876 Nov 12, 2013
DemocratsRSaviors wrote:
<quoted text>
A record high 91,541,000 Americans did not participate in the labor force this October.
According to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), 932,000 people dropped out of the labor force last month, from at total of 90,609,000 in September to 91,541,000 in October.
The BLS defines a person “[n]ot in the labor force” as age 16 and older who are not employed and not considered to be unemployed as they have not looked for work in the four weeks prior to the survey.
The labor force participation rate — or all employed and unemployed people — in accordance with the decline, also hit a record low at 62.8 percent.
When President Obama took office in January 2009, the labor force participation rate was 65.7 percent.
From January 2009 to October 2013, more than 11 million people have dropped out of the labor force — from 80,507,000 to October’s 91,541,000.
The number of people not participating in the labor force could exceed those working in about four years.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/11/record-high...
Boy, I'm sure glad the recession ended in July of 2009.
That's 28.4%!!! Thank goodness they don't count them in our unemployment numbers or we might not realize just how good we are doing since the unemployment is in the 7.4% range. The liberal way, just bury your head in the sand, see only what you want to see, and believe it.
Barney now has 2 jobs

Horseshoe Bend, AR

#27877 Nov 12, 2013
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>
That is an odd question coming from you.
How many times, on this very thread, have you preached that the status reached in ones' life is due to their own volition.
Should your existence be less well today, than it was in the Great Recession of the Bush years, perhaps you should rely on what RC preaches, your own volition.
Other Words, quite waiting for the government to bail your conservative, collective asses out.
How is that for an answer ole boy?
You used to be just a fry cook and now thanks to Obama care that job has cut you to 19 hours, so you went out and got a job as a toilet cleaner at a truck stop and you now have to drive several miles to that part time job from Salem Arkansas.

Since: Dec 10

Washington DC

#27878 Nov 12, 2013
Barney now has 2 jobs wrote:
<quoted text> You used to be just a fry cook and now thanks to Obama care that job has cut you to 19 hours, so you went out and got a job as a toilet cleaner at a truck stop and you now have to drive several miles to that part time job from Salem Arkansas.
Its kind of sad really seeing you folks wallow in your own ignorance.

Since: Dec 10

Washington DC

#27879 Nov 12, 2013
NUTS wrote:
<quoted text>
The job creation in the private sector has ,for years, been in low paying jobs. Until recently an hourly worker did get 39 hours per week. However with Obamacare those jobs have been split and there are two people getting 19 hours per week. So an additional job is created as the company has to have the same number of employees to service their customers. Thus job creation.
After an uptick in part-time work earlier this year, which Republicans seized on to attack the law, the new jobs report shows that, for the second straight month, the number of part-time jobs reported by the Bureau of Labor Statistics fell. In September, 691,000 full-time jobs were added to the economy while 594,000 part-time jobs went away. The average workweek remained about 35 hours. Plus, as Ben Casselman points out in the Wall Street Journal, part-time employees were actually working more hours in recent months, and because of differences in the way the Bureau of Labor Statistics and the ACA define “part-time,” there’s no evidence the law has had any impact on part-time employment over the past year. Part-time employment nationwide is higher than before the recession started in 2008, but that trend began before Obamacare became law in 2010. In addition, the health care law’s requirement that employers provide health insurance to full-time workers, doesn’t even begin until 2015.

Read more: Jobs Report Shows No Obamacare Effect on Employment | TIME.com http://nation.time.com/2013/10/22/obamacare-h...
Reality Check

Camden, AR

#27880 Nov 12, 2013
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>
LMFAO
The labor force has been dropping for the last ten years happy person.
Has Obama been president for ten years?
2003
66.4 66.4 66.3 66.4 66.4 66.5 66.2 66.1 66.1 66.1 66.1 65.9
2013
63.6 63.5 63.3 63.3 63.4 63.5 63.4 63.2 63.2 62.8
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000
Three words for you Happy Person -
Retiring baby boomers.
And just for for shits and grins let's throw this data in also,
College and University Education
Enrollment
In fall 2013, a record 21.8 million students are expected to attend American colleges and universities, constituting an increase of about 6.5 million since fall 2000 (source).
http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp...
Better watch out for those Right Wing Rags like (snicker),
dailycaller.com ,they have away of making you look rather ignorant.
You would think with the numbers looking like they do that people would realize that college may not be as great as it's propagandized to be. Who would want to get tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands in debt only to not be able to find a job that helps pay back those bills. 6.5 million new potential progressive sheeps. It's no wonder that liberals see education as essential. So much so that they are willing to burden so many people with so much debt and increasingly narrower prospects of finding jobs.
Annette

Jonesboro, AR

#27881 Nov 12, 2013
Will vote in Nov. don't feel need to give them a head's up on there GREED! Which is what they are all about! I vote my pocket book!

Since: Dec 10

Washington DC

#27882 Nov 12, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>
You would think with the numbers looking like they do that people would realize that college may not be as great as it's propagandized to be. Who would want to get tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands in debt only to not be able to find a job that helps pay back those bills. 6.5 million new potential progressive sheeps. It's no wonder that liberals see education as essential. So much so that they are willing to burden so many people with so much debt and increasingly narrower prospects of finding jobs.
Nope, I don't think that all.

However I do think that would be the attitude of perpetual pessimist.
OlPapaw

United States

#27883 Nov 12, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>
You would think with the numbers looking like they do that people would realize that college may not be as great as it's propagandized to be. Who would want to get tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands in debt only to not be able to find a job that helps pay back those bills. 6.5 million new potential progressive sheeps. It's no wonder that liberals see education as essential. So much so that they are willing to burden so many people with so much debt and increasingly narrower prospects of finding jobs.
I believe grandparents and parents should start savings plans for children. I intend for my grandchildren to have options.Trade school or med school, funds will be available.Liberal Arts degrees prepare you for life as well as MBAs in that they open your eyes and expose you to new things.IMHO
Reality Check

Little Rock, AR

#27884 Nov 12, 2013
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope, I don't think that all.
However I do think that would be the attitude of perpetual pessimist.
Or an optimistic realist. Facts are facts. If you have a declining workforce then it should stand to reason that institutions that prepare our young adults for entering the workforce should be declining in enrollment as well. Why would you up the enrollment if the proposition for employment is declining which would leave those graduating overburdened with debt they can't possibly pay back? Unless the institution has an alterior purpose like endoctrination. Just a common sense observation.
Jessica

Jonesboro, AR

#27885 Nov 12, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>
Or an optimistic realist. Facts are facts. If you have a declining workforce then it should stand to reason that institutions that prepare our young adults for entering the workforce should be declining in enrollment as well. Why would you up the enrollment if the proposition for employment is declining which would leave those graduating overburdened with debt they can't possibly pay back? Unless the institution has an alterior purpose like endoctrination. Just a common sense observation.
Having the largest percentage in history on disability and getting large numbers in either part time jobs or school reduces the unemployment rate. Barney doesn't care about the number of people out of work, he wants numbers that make his leader look competent and so far this is all he has to hang his hat on.
OlPapaw

United States

#27886 Nov 12, 2013
Vet wrote:
<quoted text>Welcome Home Brother.
You too
DemocratsRSavior s

Springdale, AR

#27887 Nov 12, 2013
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>
LMFAO
The labor force has been dropping for the last ten years happy person.
Has Obama been president for ten years?
2003
66.4 66.4 66.3 66.4 66.4 66.5 66.2 66.1 66.1 66.1 66.1 65.9
2013
63.6 63.5 63.3 63.3 63.4 63.5 63.4 63.2 63.2 62.8
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000
Three words for you Happy Person -
Retiring baby boomers.
And just for for shits and grins let's throw this data in also,
College and University Education
Enrollment
In fall 2013, a record 21.8 million students are expected to attend American colleges and universities, constituting an increase of about 6.5 million since fall 2000 (source).
http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp...
Better watch out for those Right Wing Rags like (snicker),
dailycaller.com ,they have away of making you look rather ignorant.
Only a fool believes anything from anything .gov.
Reality Check

Lonoke, AR

#27888 Nov 12, 2013
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>
After an uptick in part-time work earlier this year, which Republicans seized on to attack the law, the new jobs report shows that, for the second straight month, the number of part-time jobs reported by the Bureau of Labor Statistics fell. In September, 691,000 full-time jobs were added to the economy while 594,000 part-time jobs went away. The average workweek remained about 35 hours. Plus, as Ben Casselman points out in the Wall Street Journal, part-time employees were actually working more hours in recent months, and because of differences in the way the Bureau of Labor Statistics and the ACA define “part-time,” there’s no evidence the law has had any impact on part-time employment over the past year. Part-time employment nationwide is higher than before the recession started in 2008, but that trend began before Obamacare became law in 2010. In addition, the health care law’s requirement that employers provide health insurance to full-time workers, doesn’t even begin until 2015.
Read more: Jobs Report Shows No Obamacare Effect on Employment | TIME.com http://nation.time.com/2013/10/22/obamacare-h...
That trend began after the 2008 elections became official. Those in business who know how economics work listened to what Obama was actually saying on the campaign trail and adjusted accordingly when the election was all said and done. Now the more Obama pushes forward, the higher the percentage of part time workers in the labor force. The real number we should be talking about is 91.5 million. That's the total number of people who are not even in the labor force as of the end of October. It's an embarrassment but it's exactly what Obama wanted.
SadButTrue

Springdale, AR

#27889 Nov 12, 2013
Yet there are still those who truly believe that the government does not lie.

Since: Dec 10

Washington DC

#27890 Nov 12, 2013
DemocratsRSaviors wrote:
<quoted text>
Only a fool believes anything from anything .gov.
Feel free to step up and present the facts that proves it wrong, show us the plausibility in your opinion.

Since: Dec 10

Washington DC

#27891 Nov 12, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>
Or an optimistic realist. Facts are facts. If you have a declining workforce then it should stand to reason that institutions that prepare our young adults for entering the workforce should be declining in enrollment as well. Why would you up the enrollment if the proposition for employment is declining which would leave those graduating overburdened with debt they can't possibly pay back? Unless the institution has an alterior purpose like endoctrination. Just a common sense observation.
"optimistic realist"

Seriously, a optimistic person says

"today sucks and I am convinced the future will be worse than

today, so screw getting and education"

Ever consider all those students might know something you don't, something like this perhaps?

It isn't just high tech positions in American manufacturing that aren't being filled. The consultant company Deloitte surveyed the industry and found 600,000 perfectly good jobs going unfilled because of a lack of "soft skills."

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/10/6...
DemocratsRSavior s

Springdale, AR

#27892 Nov 12, 2013
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>
Feel free to step up and present the facts that proves it wrong, show us the plausibility in your opinion.
They already have been.

You countered with .gov figures.

Wisdom and understanding should not be forced on anyone. We have an unalienable right to remain ignorant if we so desire.

If you truly believe that those numbers are true and that in fact the government has not, is not and will not skew those numbers depending on what regime is at the helm, then you sir are the one that in fact is ignorant, in my opinion.

Since: Dec 10

Washington DC

#27893 Nov 12, 2013
DemocratsRSaviors wrote:
<quoted text>
They already have been.
You countered with .gov figures.
Wisdom and understanding should not be forced on anyone. We have an unalienable right to remain ignorant if we so desire.
If you truly believe that those numbers are true and that in fact the government has not, is not and will not skew those numbers depending on what regime is at the helm, then you sir are the one that in fact is ignorant, in my opinion.
What I believe is immaterial.

If the numbers are blatantly skewed, as you suggest, you should have no problem proving what you said is true.


"Wisdom and understanding should not be forced on anyone. We have an unalienable right to remain ignorant if we so desire"

You are doing an exquisite job of doing so
Hey Genius

Horseshoe Bend, AR

#27894 Nov 12, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>
Or an optimistic realist. Facts are facts. If you have a declining workforce then it should stand to reason that institutions that prepare our young adults for entering the workforce should be declining in enrollment as well. Why would you up the enrollment if the proposition for employment is declining which would leave those graduating overburdened with debt they can't possibly pay back? Unless the institution has an alterior purpose like endoctrination. Just a common sense observation.
You might ask yourself, what percentage of the populist in third world countries have received an education.

Would you agree very few is the correct answer?

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