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MiLK

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Simply find a study and look at the controls used and you will quickly realize that by changing what is controlled for can alter the results drastically within the same survey. In the example Barney used and the one you looked at, you will realize that those who aren't looking, aren't being counted in the unemployment rate (though that wasn't what we were talking about originally). What would the unemployment rate be if they were counted? The answer is 12.05%. They aren't working and most of them have been looking for work sometime in the past 5 years so why not count them? It's a great example of why anyone would be foolish to take one single study and form their opinion based on that study. These study's and polls are no more than tools used by one party or the other to gain a political advantage. We should simply use them as novelty tidbits of information and no more.
Sir if you go to THE BUREAU OF LABOR STATICITICS web page you will find the count that you said did not get counted as well as much other information that shows you are incorrect in much of your summation of how the survey is compiled.
Labor Statistics

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MiLK wrote:
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Sir if you go to THE BUREAU OF LABOR STATICITICS web page you will find the count that you said did not get counted as well as much other information that shows you are incorrect in much of your summation of how the survey is compiled.
If you go there you will find that we have the lowest percentage of full time working adults in the history of this country. You can prove anything with statistics, possibly a real master of it could even make it look like Obama has some sort of feasible plan for the country but then he would have to be real good at statistical fiction.
MiLK

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Labor Statistics wrote:
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If you go there you will find that we have the lowest percentage of full time working adults in the history of this country. You can prove anything with statistics, possibly a real master of it could even make it look like Obama has some sort of feasible plan for the country but then he would have to be real good at statistical fiction.
What is todays percentage of full time working adults?

What is the recent history of this percentage, could it have been on the decrease for several years before President Obama?

Can you provide the address of the web page that confirms or denies that?

I would prefer a BLS site address if you do not mind please.




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Labor Statistics wrote:
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If you go there you will find that we have the lowest percentage of full time working adults in the history of this country. You can prove anything with statistics, possibly a real master of it could even make it look like Obama has some sort of feasible plan for the country but then he would have to be real good at statistical fiction.
Look at this, grabbed on to a Republican talking point and shows he has no idea of what he is talking about, but Damn it sounded good, till he figures out that lowest number in history is BS.


MAY I..........http://www.bls.gov/ cps/cpsaat01.htm

1947-56.0%

2012-58.6%,

and this number has increased in 2010, 2011, an 2012.


Worse yet, both lows were after The Great Depression and The Great Recession of which both started under a Republican administration.

Grab you a towel, and go dry behind your ears.

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MiLK wrote:
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Sir if you go to THE BUREAU OF LABOR STATICITICS web page you will find the count that you said did not get counted as well as much other information that shows you are incorrect in much of your summation of how the survey is compiled.
That's where I got the info I posted. Maybe YOU should go there and see for yourself. I simply used that very page to prove an indisputable fact. You can make any survey say whatever you want whether you like it or not.
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Look at this, grabbed on to a Republican talking point and shows he has no idea of what he is talking about, but Damn it sounded good, till he figures out that lowest number in history is BS.
MAY I..........http://www.bls.gov/ cps/cpsaat01.htm
1947-56.0%
2012-58.6%,
and this number has increased in 2010, 2011, an 2012.
Worse yet, both lows were after The Great Depression and The Great Recession of which both started under a Republican administration.
Grab you a towel, and go dry behind your ears.
I looked at your little chart. The percentage you gave is for total employed and not just full-time. It seems at though you don't have a problem omitting things to "prove" a point. In other words, credibility means little to you as long as you make the socialistic Democratic party look good. Either that or you just proved my point about making surveys and studies say what you want them to say. Actually, you did both.
Milk

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That's where I got the info I posted. Maybe YOU should go there and see for yourself. I simply used that very page to prove an indisputable fact. You can make any survey say whatever you want whether you like it or not.
Sir, you made it obvious you can "make any survey say whatever (YOU) want", when you took the unemployment rate from 7% to 12%.
When you take those two categories of the unemployed and add them together and say that total supports your theory is ludicrous, and unworthy of any further discussion.




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Milk wrote:
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Sir, you made it obvious you can "make any survey say whatever (YOU) want", when you took the unemployment rate from 7% to 12%.
When you take those two categories of the unemployed and add them together and say that total supports your theory is ludicrous, and unworthy of any further discussion.
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Thank you for understanding the obvious but why do you keep discussing? We are becoming a nation of part timers and temporary employees and you illustrious leader is content with it. When less than half of the available workforce has employment, non liberals see a problem.
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MiLK wrote:
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The first post under the title DID YOU VOTE TODAY was dated June 8, 2010, and it said, "Did you vote in the June 8 election".
I fail to see how that could remotely be associated to comedy. You say this person" has been making us all laugh at you for a long time", but your message is full of anger and contempt toward this person.
With all due respect, why would/could/should anyone take you seriously?
You don't have to take me seriously, nor did I ever ask that you try.
Frankly, unless you are 'this person' I was directing my comment to, I am not obligated to answer your questions at all.
And, even though It is interesting that you would pick this post out of the thousands of others, if you genuinely need help understanding things, I will be glad to share with you my reason as to your 'Why...?'
'This person' has been ranting, cursing, and belittling anyone that dares post here in his stomping grounds that differs politically, spiritually, or even remotely hints that they are questioning one of his posts.
(Oddly enough, I guess you must have missed all the cursing and name calling 'this person' has bellowed for years while you were picking this one out to critique and and go back to its original beginning to clarify for us all.)
Therefore,'this person' is a class A,#1 bully, that has turned serious discussion in this thread thread into a mockery with his intolerant and belligerent 'three Billy goats gruff' bellowing at anyone that dares cross him for over 3 years now, as you so dutifully pointed out.
Thus, that is the 'why' to your worried and bothered questions.
I hope that helps you come to terms with and understand my cold, cruel heart.
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Milk wrote:
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Sir, you made it obvious you can "make any survey say whatever (YOU) want", when you took the unemployment rate from 7% to 12%.
When you take those two categories of the unemployed and add them together and say that total supports your theory is ludicrous, and unworthy of any further discussion.
So can YOU. There are no superpowers here, just simple statistics 101. I simply added those not counted. In any event, point and case. I'll take the fact that you no longer want to discuss it as an admission that I'm right.
Buttermilk

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So can YOU. There are no superpowers here, just simple statistics 101. I simply added those not counted. In any event, point and case. I'll take the fact that you no longer want to discuss it as an admission that I'm right.
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You have presented an interesting situation.
YOU are saying that you have less debt than you ever have, and "doing all we can just to keep our heads above the water".
Since you have not mention that any of the hardships you are experiencing is of your own volition then one can only presume the problems you are experiencing is 100% fault of the US government.
Or you could easily conclude from your contempt for Barney an obvious Democrat, it is 100% the Democrat parties fault of your woes.
On the surface it appears you and Barney both have some distinct views on politics. Just some have to take a cheap personal shot for no other reason than a difference of opinion on policy.
conclusions shouldn't come to you quite so easily very often, because I have a feeling you don't enjoy being wrong very much...and on this one, you are certainly wrong.
Well, partially...I do hold the abuse of power in our government responsible for many woes that have befallen middle America today.
But here is the typical, blind anger, see what you want to see even though I have never suggested it, response from you that makes you embarrassingly wrong. You and Barney really should remove your jaded glasses when you read opinions of others, and knock that chip off of your shoulders so that you can see we are all entitled to our opinions...without a preconceived idea by you and Barney of what you think we have said as opposed to what's actually been said.
I hold the Federal Government as a whole responsible for the mess we are in right now, and the bigger mess that is yet to come.
You see, I firmly believe that you are what you have been becoming.
America didn't get into the trouble we are in today, yesterday...last year...or for that matter, even a decade ago.
When politicians began to decide their own greed trumped the good of the people, that was all she wrote.
This has been years in the making, and the future is looking dimmer by the minute.
Barney goes on the immediate attack of anyone he decides is 'against' him and a 'party', and I am frankly tired of it. He is worse than a spoiled child, and I'm thinking you very well may be, too.


Funny how you don't have a problem with with years of Barneys repeated fits of cursing and name-calling, yet feel the need to reprimand some sarcasm that strikes an all-too personal note.
If you want to see real 'attacks' just glance back over some cussing, stomping, name-calling fits by good ole Barn.
How about the school yard rule,
"Don't dish it, if you can't take it!"
Milk

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Thank you for understanding the obvious but why do you keep discussing? We are becoming a nation of part timers and temporary employees and you illustrious leader is content with it. When less than half of the available workforce has employment, non liberals see a problem.
If this is a huge problem with them (non liberals) why has the amount of job bills that have came out of the 113Th house of Representatives been zero and job killing sequestration is a constant them among the non liberals.
Labor Statistics

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Milk wrote:
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If this is a huge problem with them (non liberals) why has the amount of job bills that have came out of the 113Th house of Representatives been zero and job killing sequestration is a constant them among the non liberals.
If you've noticed the sequestration has not reduced spending on any of obama's interests, Michelle's travels, just slowed down what the common man
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Milk wrote:
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If this is a huge problem with them (non liberals) why has the amount of job bills that have came out of the 113Th house of Representatives been zero and job killing sequestration is a constant them among the non liberals.
So the Obama administration has spent more than any other administration in history, and they lost 85 billion out of a 2.9 trillion budget. That's 2%. We had more jobs with a lower budget under almost every other president except maybe Carter. Using that rationale, the sequester was a job saving event.
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Barney has disappeared and MILK shows up?
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So the Obama administration has spent more than any other administration in history, and they lost 85 billion out of a 2.9 trillion budget. That's 2%. We had more jobs with a lower budget under almost every other president except maybe Carter. Using that rationale, the sequester was a job saving event.
"We had more jobs with a lower budget under almost every other president except maybe Carter"

How do explain George W. Bush

BLS data show that 4.4 million jobs were lost in Bush's last year in office, 4.3 million more jobs were lost during Obama's first 13 months due to the recession he inherited and Bush increased the national debt by over five trillion.
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Labor Statistics wrote:
Barney has disappeared and MILK shows up?
I noticed that.
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"We had more jobs with a lower budget under almost every other president except maybe Carter"
How do explain George W. Bush
BLS data show that 4.4 million jobs were lost in Bush's last year in office, 4.3 million more jobs were lost during Obama's first 13 months due to the recession he inherited and Bush increased the national debt by over five trillion.
I have said on numerous occasions that I didn't think Bush was a good president. That being said, what does that have to do with Barack Obama? His presidency started mid January 2009 and everything past that point is his to own, good and bad. Predictably, to anyone who paid attention in 2008 to Obama's campaign, there is far more bad than good that has come out of his presidency. Obama got a package on the day he took office that said AMERICA on it, he did exactly what he said he was going to do back in 2008 and the results we see today are because of his policies. You or any other liberal wouldn't be saying a word if America was going strong today, but you and every other blind sheep only heard what Obama said the outcomes of his policies would be. You didn't think for yourself. Apparantly, your still believing Obama's lies because your still supporting him when you can look around and things are nowhere near the way Obama promised. Obama made a laundry list of things that were wrong with America as he was pointing at Bush so he knew what he was getting. That means there are no excuses for this president so quit making them for him.
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I didn't like Bush, and I don't like Obama, but the economy was in a freefall when Bush left office, it continued downward for a while and then leveled off. We had the best economy in the world when Bush went in office, and one of the worst when he left.

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