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“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#23191 Mar 5, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>So you are against progress. technology, building, humans, WHAT?
I am FOR responsible development and conservation. We CAN do both!
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#23193 Mar 5, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
So people in the southwest are just as ignorant as they are in the south?
So you live in the south!
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#23194 Mar 5, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
Not so far. I don't know if it's even legal. Most elk here are on farms, though he says he heard an elk bugling while deer hunting in the back yard last fall.
So he has to go to other statess to hunt. States where the people who live there year around have to do whatever they have to do to control predator populations. Like shoot coyotes so your husband has some elk to shoot.
Reality Check

Alexander, AR

#23195 Mar 5, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
The current administration released a bunch of dangerous criminal illegals in AZ. The local sheriff sent a letter to Secretary Napolitano asking for an investigation. The release of those criminals was done with no communication to the sheriffs dept in that town ahead of time. Anyone in congress from either house could call for an investigation. Will there be one? The silence is deafening.
You are right but do you think Obama will just comply? No, he will do what he has always done. Create a distraction and give it an insane amount of attention until his uninformed voters cause a stir that needs to be addressed by the media. All the while shifting the focus to a major issue like jobs or the debt ceiling forcing republicans to take up the fight for several months leaving the illegal immigrant issue alone. In the process, the republicans will argue their equally pathetic solution for whatever major issue Obama has shifted to. By the time that fight is over, the public has lost interest in the illegal immigrants and any republican that brings it up ends up looking like some grumpy old fart that came to the party after it's over. All this happens as Ameirca continues to move farther away from the greatness and freedom we never had to lose in the first place.

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#23196 Mar 5, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>
You are right but do you think Obama will just comply? No, he will do what he has always done. Create a distraction and give it an insane amount of attention until his uninformed voters cause a stir that needs to be addressed by the media. All the while shifting the focus to a major issue like jobs or the debt ceiling forcing republicans to take up the fight for several months leaving the illegal immigrant issue alone. In the process, the republicans will argue their equally pathetic solution for whatever major issue Obama has shifted to. By the time that fight is over, the public has lost interest in the illegal immigrants and any republican that brings it up ends up looking like some grumpy old fart that came to the party after it's over. All this happens as Ameirca continues to move farther away from the greatness and freedom we never had to lose in the first place.
Tell you what, you find any thing on this, and repost it.

That story is total B.S.

"The current administration released a bunch of dangerous criminal illegals in AZ. The local sheriff sent a letter to Secretary Napolitano asking for an investigation

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#23197 Mar 5, 2013
Wiser than DKN and Barney wrote:
<quoted text>I think you have me completely wrong in the first place. I'm an american not republican or democrat and am a conservative, not liberal. I am not for any of them. Because if they ain't chooked when they go into office, they such are if anybody votes them out. Two crooked right now are poleski and reid and we can seem to get rit of them. As far as i'm concern they are all at fault because they put themselves and their jobs first before america. They work for us but they seem to forget the moment they are elected. It ain't right but that's the way it is. But the one thing i am sure of our country is in trouble and that high that the stock market is on, ain't telling the americans the whole story. I'm not brainwashed i see things as they are. Our economy shunk last quarter, we have 24 million out of work most of them have been out of work as long as two years. There is almost as many people on welfare as working. 1 out of 6 are getting food stanps. Unemployment rate is 7.9%. Income for americans is 3% down for 2012. Gas is still over 3.00 a gallon has been lower since january 2009. The national debt is 16.6 trillion. Washington has a spending problem and they refuses to admit it. There are others things that are wrong but to many to mention. These are the facts. And that's what is happening you have no right to call me brainwashed. This country has real problems and it's people are hurting and the people in washington do not care about america or it's people. And what i gave you ain't liberal talking points just the facts. And before you critize me and the facts you had better go check yourself and see which side you are on because you sound alot like a liberal.
"And that's what is happening you have no right to call me brainwashed."
Likewise, you had NO RIGHT to tell me "You actually believe everything obama says. I don't know what planet you are on but here on earth some of us, actually see things as they are," when I, Sir, am the one who see things EXACTLY as they are. Then you go on to say this:

"And obama is ruining what was a wonderful nation where freedom ruled."
The FACT is it started long BEFORE Obama. I don't defend him, I only speak the truth. Did you ever ask what happened to freedom under Bush? I am honest enough to admit he took our freedoms too!

Did you see Newt Gingrich chastizing Ron Paul for not wanting to take even more of our freedoms during one of the debates? That's when Newt lost my support too. Then you say:

"Call your congressman, if this woman is approved your electric bill will triple."

Here's the way things are. Calling our congressmen will do NOTHING to stop it. They don't care! They look after their own and their own reelection prospects. That is a FACT! They could have stopped Obamacare. They didn't. They could have drilled in Alaska years ago. They didn't. Nobody in Congress cares if we can't afford gas. Our little inconveniences has no effect on "them." Now they won't stop gun control either.

They will turn most of us into criminals, so they can start using those fema camps. BTW, my electric bill has already tripled in the past three years.

You also said,
"How dare you call me brainwashed."
after I said,
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
I find it quite amusing that you would think only their side is brainwashed. LMAO

The fact is I didn't call YOU braiwashed, per se. I said both sides are brainwashed.

Now you say,
"I'm an american not republican or democrat and am a conservative, not liberal. I am not for any of them."
Here's a fact for you, I too "am an american not republican or democrat and am a conservative, not liberal. I am not for any of them."
I prove this in my non-defense of EITHER side, unless they deserve to be defended. And as a true conservative, I don't see conservatism in the republican party any more than I do in the democratic party.

THAT is the reason they keep losing elections, BTW.
what

Grand Prairie, TX

#23198 Mar 5, 2013
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>
So you are looking for boys now, you sick little Freak?
There you go obsessing with size and name calling again. You really ought to get that checked out.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#23199 Mar 5, 2013
Wiser than DKN and Barney wrote:
<quoted text>I think you have me completely wrong in the first place. I'm an american not republican or democrat and am a conservative, not liberal. I am not for any of them. Because if they ain't chooked when they go into office, they such are if anybody votes them out. Two crooked right now are poleski and reid and we can seem to get rit of them. As far as i'm concern they are all at fault because they put themselves and their jobs first before america. They work for us but they seem to forget the moment they are elected. It ain't right but that's the way it is. But the one thing i am sure of our country is in trouble and that high that the stock market is on, ain't telling the americans the whole story. I'm not brainwashed i see things as they are. Our economy shunk last quarter, we have 24 million out of work most of them have been out of work as long as two years. There is almost as many people on welfare as working. 1 out of 6 are getting food stanps. Unemployment rate is 7.9%. Income for americans is 3% down for 2012. Gas is still over 3.00 a gallon has been lower since january 2009. The national debt is 16.6 trillion. Washington has a spending problem and they refuses to admit it. There are others things that are wrong but to many to mention. These are the facts. And that's what is happening you have no right to call me brainwashed. This country has real problems and it's people are hurting and the people in washington do not care about america or it's people. And what i gave you ain't liberal talking points just the facts. And before you critize me and the facts you had better go check yourself and see which side you are on because you sound alot like a liberal.
"And before you critize me and the facts you had better go check yourself and see which side you are on because you sound alot like a liberal."
This is where I call you out. You just just got done saying (in the same post), "I'm an american not republican or democrat and am a conservative, not liberal. I am not for any of them."

Ya see, I really and truly do NOT take sides. This statement tells me you do. And that's fine if that's what you want to do.

BTW, I am strongly conservative. But I get the feeling that the meaning of that word is different to me than it is to you.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#23200 Mar 5, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>WHOAA, wait a minute sister, yesterday you didn't call people names but today is apparently different. Look at you! LMAO! LOL!LOL!LOL!
Is there no intellectual honesty anymore? Even among so-called conservatives, which you apparently are not? It should have been obvious to you that I only used that word in response to Churm using it against me FIRST?

As often as I disagree with him on animal killing issues, I still defend him when something is said unjustly against or about him. I will do that with ANYONE falsely accused of something.

Had you been intellectually honest, like me, and like a true conservative, you would have called him out for calling me an idiot first when that name was not warranted by my post. But NOOOOOOOO...... you gleefully jump all over me at the first opportuniuty.....

Is it a guy thing? You guys need to stick together for some reason?

Am I a threat to you?
now we know

Ash Flat, AR

#23201 Mar 5, 2013
curmudgeon wrote:
<quoted text> and your full of shit. You cant find a single post where I stated I tresspass. And yep raptor is correct in my younger days I distilled well head gas that wasnt mine. When it was freezing cold I would put out the flame on a oil well. Then hook a long garden hose to that outlet the gas would condense in the hose and fill a 55 gal barrell. My thinking was it was just being wasted by the oil company. they didnt want it nothing wrong with me getting it. It was wrong and I shouldnt have been a gas thief. I knew better and didnt really have a valid excuse. As high a gas is getting its tempting to do it again. Man I just hate to see those flames burning and all that gas being wasted. And its contributing to glowbull warming LOL.
I put that trespassing question out for you Curmudgeon because you were Arguing about people trespassing on YOUR land.
It was meant as a joke.
I have had beavers on my land and also sometimes a hog.
The beavers are a small problem and in the past USDA aphis trappers would take care of them. The hogs do more damage in one week than a family of beavers would do in several months.I never thought about eating one or a wild hog that is full of parasites and pseudo rabies virus.
I don't like to kill animals just for the heck of it, but if they are damaging the land then that is something I have to do. I shot a hog last year with a moslin-nagant rifle and he dropped dead in his tracks. I used the military surplus rounds that force you to clean the gun soon after you use it or the barrel will get corroded. Its much cheaper to shot than a 7mm mag and does as good a job on anything up to 300 yards.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#23203 Mar 5, 2013
Wiser than DKN and Barney wrote:
TO anybody reading this call your congressmen and tell them not to approve jean ocarthy, obama's pick to head the epa. This woman has declared a war on coal. She has already helped passed regulations to help stop coal. You should all be concerned because if this woman is approved your electric bill could triple. But remember obama and they got him on tape saying under his plan electricity rates would sky rocket. To give you an example my summer electric bills average about 200.00 a month. That would be about 600.00. a month. I know most of you have probably have high bills than that. Remember folks it ain't the president that pay for that electric bill. It's you and you should be concern. So please call your congressmen and tell them not to approve her.
Here we have a win/win for the government. Electric bill goes up AND so does the phone bill! They sit up there and laugh at all of us little people for thinking we can make a difference.

But really, does ONE woman have so much power, that she can shut down an industry at her own discretion simply because she's against it? I don't think so, but what do I know?

What if we elected a coyote lover?

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#23204 Mar 5, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>
The beavers were in trouble because people were trapping them mainly for their pelt. That is the same as the example I used about the whales. In other words, I agree with you on that point. We have a responsiblity to hunt animals on this planet responsibly and that killing animals to harvest them isn't a bad thing. I was simply saying that beavers were not endangered of becoming extinct because people were killing them just to be killing them.
I know. I just see way too much abuse and not enough responsible management. Or maybe it's just a select few here that make it seem that way.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#23206 Mar 5, 2013
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>
Tell you what, you find any thing on this, and repost it.
That story is total B.S.
"The current administration released a bunch of dangerous criminal illegals in AZ. The local sheriff sent a letter to Secretary Napolitano asking for an investigation
http://www.sheriffpaul.com/

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#23208 Mar 5, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>So he has to go to other statess to hunt. States where the people who live there year around have to do whatever they have to do to control predator populations. Like shoot coyotes so your husband has some elk to shoot.
He's only hunted elk once.
When did I say I was married?

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#23209 Mar 5, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>
You are right but do you think Obama will just comply? No, he will do what he has always done. Create a distraction and give it an insane amount of attention until his uninformed voters cause a stir that needs to be addressed by the media. All the while shifting the focus to a major issue like jobs or the debt ceiling forcing republicans to take up the fight for several months leaving the illegal immigrant issue alone. In the process, the republicans will argue their equally pathetic solution for whatever major issue Obama has shifted to. By the time that fight is over, the public has lost interest in the illegal immigrants and any republican that brings it up ends up looking like some grumpy old fart that came to the party after it's over. All this happens as Ameirca continues to move farther away from the greatness and freedom we never had to lose in the first place.
LOL. True. But we DID have to lose our freedom (which Warrior will vehemently deny we've lost) because we elected, and then reelected, the very individuals who are the offenders. And the one person who tried to defend our freedoms, was treated like a nut. Then we had the media, with the help of our elected officials, brainwashing the people, and succeeded in keeping the very man who would have defended our freedoms, from being elected president three times! Go figure.
curmudgeon

Ash Flat, AR

#23210 Mar 5, 2013
now we know wrote:
<quoted text>
I put that trespassing question out for you Curmudgeon because you were Arguing about people trespassing on YOUR land.
It was meant as a joke.
I have had beavers on my land and also sometimes a hog.
The beavers are a small problem and in the past USDA aphis trappers would take care of them. The hogs do more damage in one week than a family of beavers would do in several months.I never thought about eating one or a wild hog that is full of parasites and pseudo rabies virus.
I don't like to kill animals just for the heck of it, but if they are damaging the land then that is something I have to do. I shot a hog last year with a moslin-nagant rifle and he dropped dead in his tracks. I used the military surplus rounds that force you to clean the gun soon after you use it or the barrel will get corroded. Its much cheaper to shot than a 7mm mag and does as good a job on anything up to 300 yards.
I use those old wwii surplus ammo in my 54. Ive owned it for years itsa bolt action and ive never cleaned it. I pour motor oil down the barrell occasonaly. If you thouroghly cook the wild hog meat those diseases dont matter. Wild hogs are just escaped domestic pigs. And very few wild hogs have the diseases anyway.guarntee its cleaner and healthier than any meat you buy at the stores.

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#23212 Mar 6, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
LOL, it was illegal aliens being monitored by ankle bracelets, look at the last page of the SHERIFF'S letter he asks if they had a criminal record.


Maybe Sheriff Paul needs to be looking for his lost files rather than ICE detainees.

An immigration hawk in a border state, Babeu until recently was a rising star in the Republican Party. He was the Arizona co-chair of Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign and had launched a run for Congress this year.

He was till he got caught living with his gay illegal alien boyfriend.

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#23213 Mar 6, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
The current administration released a bunch of dangerous criminal illegals in AZ. The local sheriff sent a letter to Secretary Napolitano asking for an investigation. The release of those criminals was done with no communication to the sheriffs dept in that town ahead of time. Anyone in congress from either house could call for an investigation. Will there be one? The silence is deafening.
There is a investagation, x3

Besides the latest investigation and the one looking into the breakup, Babeu and several of his top aides are also facing a federal investigation into whether they spent government resources to engage in political campaigning. They have denied wrongdoing in all three.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/201...
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#23215 Mar 6, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
Is there no intellectual honesty anymore? Even among so-called conservatives, which you apparently are not? It should have been obvious to you that I only used that word in response to Churm using it against me FIRST?
As often as I disagree with him on animal killing issues, I still defend him when something is said unjustly against or about him. I will do that with ANYONE falsely accused of something.
Had you been intellectually honest, like me, and like a true conservative, you would have called him out for calling me an idiot first when that name was not warranted by my post. But NOOOOOOOO...... you gleefully jump all over me at the first opportuniuty.....
Is it a guy thing? You guys need to stick together for some reason?
Am I a threat to you?
Well, I remember you callling me out first without calling the other guy out at all. Looks like you fight fire with fire also. Is being a hypocrite a girl thing?
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#23216 Mar 6, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
He's only hunted elk once.
When did I say I was married?
Oh you're married, it may not be by paper and church but I can tell that man has marriage power over you..

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