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curmudgeon

Horseshoe Bend, AR

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Mar 2, 2013
 
better answers wrote:
<quoted text> I have a large herd of goats at one farm and I have 2 dogs that stay with them 24 /7/365 . I don't have much of a predator problem .
Although there are coyote packs all around the farm and they love to howl at night.
I shot one last year but he didn't look to well,( hung him on the fence for all the world to see)I have the farm fully fenced with woven wire and that slows down dogs.
The Neighbors dog got into the goats last year but these goats are big and they have horns,then the dogs got him cornered and tore him up some. The Neighbor was angry since it was his kids prize pup.
I told him that he was lucky that I saved his dog and not let my dogs finish him. Around here you need to try to get along with everyone.
My biggest predator problems are people stealing animals especially young goats.
I had 7 stolen last year and a large fat castrated male taken the year before during Christmas.
This was Reported to the local sheriff but they never do anything , I know it is my very rich next door neighbor who I have caught stealing anything that isn't nailed down.
We had a very hot discussion about it this fall and I haven't had any losses since.
I moved to the area about 10 years ago and I am still not well accepted because I wasn't from a 2nd or 3rd generation family.
Things are changing with more new folks moving here,but the county is politically controlled by just a few families.
Your narrative sounds almost too good to be true. I know a wool sheep farmer he had two of those big white sheep dogs that where supposed to protect his sheep. One was always loose walking along the Highway. eventually they became buddies with another free roaming black lab. then all three became sheep killers. so he just shot them all. He told me they ate a lot of dog food. that it cost more to feed them than they where worth anyhow. He got a male donkey and for fun it beat up on and tried to rape his sheep. So he finally gave up and sold the sheep. Now the part about not being accepted thats a gospel fact. Where I reside these folks have been here ever since they recieved land grants for fighting in the war of 1812. And they have intermarried ever since. The jokes about them being inbred are the actual truth. They have been inbreeding for almost 200 years.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

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#22963
Mar 2, 2013
 
Churmudgeon wrote:
Dogs Running at Large
Most statutes do not allow a farmer to shoot dogs that are merely running loose (at large). A North Dakota rancher, who shot a neighbor's greyhound after it ran through his cattle herd without particularly disturbing the cattle, was not protected by the state statute, which allows killing a dog only if it is "worrying" livestock. The rancher had to pay $300 to the dog's owner.(Trautman v. Day, 273 N.W.2d 712 (N.D. 1979).
Some states, however, allow farmers to shoot any dog that is, in the words of the Indiana statute, "roaming over the country unattended." Under this statute, an appeals court upheld the right of a farmer to shoot dogs he said were trying to get into his chicken pen in the middle of the night.(Puckett v. Miller, 381 N.E.2d 1087 (Ind. App. 1978).) The dogs, two coonhounds, had been hunting with their owner but got separated from him in a heavy rainstorm about 2 a.m.(For the uninitiated, raccoon hunting is done at night.) Under the relatively severe Indiana law, it made no difference that the dogs were bothering the chickens; their hours were numbered as soon as they got away from their master.
If you lose a dog to a trigger-happy farmer, in most instances, there is absolutely no way to prove that it wasn't doing what the farmer or rancher who shot it says it was doing. The only other witness is likely to be the dog, and it isn't talking. So the lesson is simple: If you live in a rural area or close to one, NEVER let your dog run loose off your property. Farmers may shoot first and ask questions later, if at all.---- I really got a kick out of the statement (If you lose a dog to atrigger happy farmer , in most instances the only other witness is the dog and he isnt talking? Like if fido recovered they cold get him on the stand to testify!
It says you may "shoot" the dog. It says NOTHING about setting deadly traps.

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#22964
Mar 2, 2013
 
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>I stock up on fish antibiotics. They are cheap, you don't need a prescription and they are the same thing you get from the doctors!
It was a rough night and morning. I finally got enough energy to sit at the computer. It's been a long time since my throat hurt this bad.

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Mar 2, 2013
 
obeythedamnedlaworelse wrote:
trespassing is illegal and immoral
ALL trespassers should be shot and any survivors prosecuted.
People shouldn't have to post their property. You filthy scumbags know you are on somebody else's property and you know you don't have any damned right to be there.
STAY THE HELL OFF MY LAND OR PAY THE PRICE
I was on my property up north one time. I saw a man approaching me on his ATV. We both asked each other what we were doing there. I introduced myself as the property owner. He introduced himself as a neighbor. I only get there a few times a year. He didn't know I wasn't a trespasser, but he had been keeping trespassers in check. He saw me drive in and came to see who I was. I had no problem with that.
Reality Check

Little Rock, AR

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#22966
Mar 2, 2013
 
We now have some in the left wing media realizing that they have been played and are now in the process of being discarded. Obama of late has started limiting access to the media to various forums and they aren't happy about it. The reality is that the White House has it's own media machine that controls the message that is sent out even better than the left wing media that sometimes makes the White House look bad when their message isn't as complimentary as Obama would like it to be. Now the left wing media is getting all up in arms about the first amendment and the freedom of press in America. Where was the media when our second amendment rights were and still are being trampled? The media helped the machine get going and now the Obama machine is throwing them under the bus because they have played out their usefullness. Did the media actually think that Obama wanted the same left wing America as them? His radical agenda is now moving even farther left than theirs and the media has now become an obsticle that needs to be removed. Thanks media for not being fair in your coverage and feeding the socialistic/communistic machine that is the Obama Administration
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Little Rock, AR

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#22967
Mar 2, 2013
 
guest wrote:
<quoted text>Don't be so sure they're not already bringing in votes from Mexico. There are a lot of ways to manipulate absentee and early voting. Don't you remember Michelle Obama calling early voting the democrats "Secret Weapon?" Also remember, liberals have been in power longer than five years. It took them much longer to run the country into the ground the way they have.
I wouldn't doubt anything you have said. As I have said before, there is no depth the liberal left won't stoop to in order to stay in power.
Hmmm

North Little Rock, AR

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Mar 2, 2013
 
Wiser than DKN and Barney wrote:
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Hey Ms. Ignorant!

Since you obviously don't understand anything, I was talking about our leaders standing up and having a backbone and stopping Obama's spending sprees, plus it's time Americans stand and tell lawmakers to inform Obama to stop destroying our country. Yes I think it's time Americans grew a backbone and quit cowering down to Obama, he's not our king, just the President.
There, I cleaned up your post a bit.
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Mar 2, 2013
 
Wiser than DKN and Barney wrote:
<quoted text>Keep in mind if obama keeps ticking the media off and refusing them assest to his meetings, they will become pitbulls acting like bloodhounds digging up every piece of dirt on obama.
Kickest-Assest?
curmudgeon

Horseshoe Bend, AR

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Mar 2, 2013
 
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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Just because something is legal, doesn't mean it's right. Private property doesn't give someone the right to inflict cruelty on an animal.
I agree that the dog owners should pay for any damage done by their dogs. Can't go along with chips though. It's like gun registration. Dogs that are chipped make it easier for government to confiscate them.
What is legal is spelled out in our written laws. What is right varies with the opinion of individuals Ill take the legal written laws anythime over someones biased opinion. In your biased opinion you had a mind to break the law tresspass and steal the Property (traps) of another just because in your opinion you are right. I think the damage and killing done by predators is cruel. their are many dogs implanted with chips at the vet clinic already. only one dog that I caught had a collar and rabies tag and still no owners name ot identification. How are you gonna prove ownership. When faced with paying for damage that can up into the thousands the owners wlll deny that its their dog. They will clain its a stray that just wandered up. an they where feeding it to be kind. Thats why no rabies vaccination or collar not my dog! That is the excuse.
curmudgeon

Horseshoe Bend, AR

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Mar 2, 2013
 
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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It says you may "shoot" the dog. It says NOTHING about setting deadly traps.
That was a cut and paste of another states law. As far as traps the Arkansas game & fish does set season dates limits & regulations regarding the trapping of Furbearers & wild game ect. The Ark game & fish has no regulations or authority regarding the trapping or shooting of free roaming dogs ,cats , feral hogs or any other domestic animals. And the arkansas statutes are silent as to what methods are legal & illegal. With the exception that poison baits are prohibited. The arkansas law states dogs that are ABOUT TOO may be legally destroyed by the Livestock owner & his agents. And I think poison baits sometimes are permitted for blackbird control?
curmudgeon

Horseshoe Bend, AR

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Mar 2, 2013
 
Wiser than DKN and Barney wrote:
<quoted text>Keep in mind if obama keeps ticking the media off and refusing them assest to his meetings, they will become pitbulls acting like bloodhounds digging up every piece of dirt on obama.
Its termed good press or bad press. Bill Clinton and so far Obama have gotten what is called good press from the media. All of the news outlets are biased toward their perfered cantidate political party or agenda. Most of the news is half truths or downright lies. I never watch the news or read the newspapers. I get my half truths from TOPIX! Like homer Simpson stated Facts? Facts? People all the time use Facts to prove all kinds of things that are only half true.
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North Little Rock, AR

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Mar 2, 2013
 

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She would fall into the category of American's that hate the way things are going in America yet vote and support the very things that are causing our demise because she has bought into the lies of Obama and his administration. Things are getting worse for them as it is for all Americans. I just don't know how bad things will have to get before she and others like her see the light. I'm not even sure that things could get bad enough for them to see the truth.
Well she's actually a he, Red Neckerson at times. Excluding you of course, many of these yokels find it somewhat a put down to degrade an opposing view by referring to that posters comments as that of a woman. Since my grandmother, and all those fine women comprising my maternal ancestry were women, additionally, my wife and daughter. I take that as a compliment.

This widespread juvenile and sexist attitude alone gives me reason enough to never support a Party that comprises many who consider a women less than equal.

BTW, my family supported Mrs. Clinton.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

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#22978
Mar 2, 2013
 
curmudgeon wrote:
<quoted text> What is legal is spelled out in our written laws. What is right varies with the opinion of individuals Ill take the legal written laws anythime over someones biased opinion. In your biased opinion you had a mind to break the law tresspass and steal the Property (traps) of another just because in your opinion you are right. I think the damage and killing done by predators is cruel. their are many dogs implanted with chips at the vet clinic already. only one dog that I caught had a collar and rabies tag and still no owners name ot identification. How are you gonna prove ownership. When faced with paying for damage that can up into the thousands the owners wlll deny that its their dog. They will clain its a stray that just wandered up. an they where feeding it to be kind. Thats why no rabies vaccination or collar not my dog! That is the excuse.
"only one dog that I caught had a collar and rabies tag and still no owners name ot identification."
The rabies tag can identify the owner.

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Mar 2, 2013
 
Wiser than DKN and Barney wrote:
<quoted text>Wheither it's good press or bad press the media in the last 4 years have not done their job. They let obama have a pass on everything because they are so in love with him, he can do no wrong. They won't dig up the dirt, if they did, obama would not be president right now.
The media has been lying to us, bringing us half-truths and hiding things from us for FAR more than just four years!
Billary

Batesville, AR

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#22980
Mar 2, 2013
 
Well Slick llie did it again! the last 6 months of the election he went on a massive speaking tour telling the voting public that we must stay the course. Obama's economic plans were working, and working well. He said he studies the economy every day and can see brighter days ahead. He said the main indicator to look at was personal income, he promised it would notch up a little every month. Well guess what? Personal income in January had the biggest drop in 20 years! 20 years! We are steam rolling for another massive recession and we have still yet to pay for Obamacare, that little law that the CBO say's will cost four times what th President said. Now where did I get the 20 year drop info? CNN, the Clinton News Network. Thanks Bill, you Monica'd us yet again.
curmudgeon

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Mar 2, 2013
 
Wiser than DKN and Barney wrote:
<quoted text>Yes i know. I wished they would get over their love affair with the liar in chief. It wouldn't be a bad thing if the media turned on obama. Then we might all finally get the actual truth.
anjust what would happen then? I think nothing. Even if obama and the dems where voted out the republicans aint any better.
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

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Mar 2, 2013
 

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<quoted text>Yes i know. I wished they would get over their love affair with the liar in chief. It wouldn't be a bad thing if the media turned on obama. Then we might all finally get the actual truth.
The media is not going to let the first black, liberal, democrat President fail. They have too much invested in this guy, he sends chills down some of their legs. Liberals believe America wronged everybody who was not white so this is a big victory for them. No matter what he does the left wing media will cover for him. Sad but true!
WARRIOR

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#22986
Mar 2, 2013
 
Wiser than DKN and Barney wrote:
<quoted text>Don't you think they need to wake up then?
It's called White Liberal Guilt and unfortunatley the liberals control most media outlets..
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Mar 2, 2013
 
When its all division , the entire goal NOW THAT IS , is to divide , weakening this Nation. Democrates and Republicas a battle whic keeps LURED all the American people to discuss " LAWS' to which are getting more usless with each passing yr.
This grand power sturggle has a depth far more so than im able to read that the
common person even knows of .#1. The leaders are corrupted , so twisted and are all about words to no avail !#2. Once wisdom may have been among leaders of Americas hope , " As for me i truly believe it is no more #3. The Poor Class are doomed for many years to come as a result of greed .#4. The Middle Class are falling to what may end up to be far less than its normal stance. Depends on if or not the Super Powers Which Control Americas "Trade" and "Gov" Leaders are set to do
(i hear its the One World Gov.) who can know , there not going to say . WITH ALL THIS SAID AND BOOKS COULD BE WRITTEN ON THE "WHY"..... I will say Voting
is not the tool to make America Strong . As i check the records on what makes this Nation Strong or Takes From , I am so sad to see the way our LEADERS STAND.
Prayer is the one thing i do . May God direct the hearts of Leaders .
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Mar 2, 2013
 
Hmmm wrote:
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This widespread juvenile and sexist attitude alone gives me reason enough to never support a Party that comprises many who consider a women less than equal.
Me too.

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