Indiana Marine died in barracks

Indiana Marine died in barracks

There are 28 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Jan 24, 2008, titled Indiana Marine died in barracks. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

The shooting death of a Marine from Indiana found over the weekend in his barracks room appears to have been an accident, officials said.

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Chris

United States

#21 Jan 24, 2008
odd wrote:
Surely they don't allow personal weapons in barracks?
They didn't when I was in (80's). You had to keep them in the Armory.
Chris

United States

#22 Jan 24, 2008
Barney wrote:
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I'm sure they don't allow weapons in barracks, but barracks typically don't have metal detectors so if someone wants to bring a gun there is nothing to stop them. Same thing with many apartments and dorm rooms. Guns typically aren't allowed in these places either, but there is nothing to really stop them.
Guns are allowed in apartments. It's called the 2nd Amendment. Guns aren't allowed in dorms because it is school property. Schools are gun free zones, like Virgina Tech, Columbine, University of Texas, Austin, The Amish school in Nickel Mines, PA ect.... Those are places that guns are not allowed, but it didn't stop a few choice people, did it? Liquor isn't allowed in the barracks, but it finds it's way in there to.
Chris

United States

#23 Jan 24, 2008
free will wrote:
having been a resident of 29 palms myself i can tell you that carrying personal firearms is prohibited, in fact you must register your firearms with the base MPs, and Im prety sure you must leave them in the armory, you can only take them when you go off base.
You can take them out to hunt on base. I ran into my Master Gunnery Sgt. at Camp Lejeune once while he was coming back from hunting. It surprised me at the time seeing walking down a tank trail with a shot gun.
Chris

King George, VA

#24 Jan 24, 2008
Well of course the weapons are locked up while you are not drilling, cleaning , or using them for some other authorized purpose while you are in Boot Camp. They are also locked in the armory while you are in the Fleet Marine Corps . YOU NEVER! EVER! LEAVE YOUR WEAPON UNSECURED! Same as with your footlocker and any other personal gear you have. And like I said in another post, unless the rules have changed, you can hunt on base at Camp Lejeune, NC. Here is what Camp Lejeune has to say about firearms.
Firearm Registration
All privately owned firearms on base must be registered with the Base Provost Marshal, Room #2, Bldg. 3 and Bldg. AS211 at the Air Station. Only those persons living in base housing (family quarters) may maintain their firearms in their quarters. BEQ and BOQ residents must store their weapons in a unit armory. The brand name, model number, serial number, location of, caliber, barrel length, action and proof of ownership are required for registration.

Skeet/Trap Shooting
The Base Skeet and Trap Shooting Range is located on Parachute Tower Road. It maintains five skeet fields and two trap ranges for recreational shooting.

Remember. There are thousands and thousands of Marines that pass through all of the Marine Corps Base's. Each and everyone of them is properly trained with numerous weapons. Safety is the number one thing that they stress. Number two is BRASS, Breath, Relax, Aim, squeeze, Shoot. Make every round count.

It is sad when any Marine loses his life to something like this. I am sure the Marine Corps will investigate this to the fullest. People like to jump to conclusions to often. And ANY angry mentally broken person is someone who could easily kill dozens of people before being stopped. Seung-Hui Cho proved that at Virginia Tech and he didn't have any military training. Just a gun free zone to do his evil deed with out the fear of someone shooting back.

And to Ole Roy, That is Hollywood. A world of make believe. Just like the movie Heart Break Ridge. The worst so called Marine movie ever! I had a few buddies that were extras in that movie as it was being filmed at Camp Pendelton, CA. We were stationed on Okinawa when it was released. They were upset that the base theater wouldn't allow it to be shown. The Marine Corps would have never let them film on base if they would have known what kind of trash they were making. Semper Fi Lcpl Babcock. My prayers are with you and your family and friends.
Ryan Johnson

Newport, KY

#25 Jan 24, 2008
I was in the Marine Corps and stationed at 29 Palms and other various stations around the world. I have a hard time believing it was not self inflicted. Being in the Marine Corps puts such a mental strain and drain on soldiers it can and does drive people over the extremes.
Weekly guys are claiming thier are gay, trying to commit suicide, going AWOL, popping on piss test on purpose, faking injury, acting crazy and even actually killing themselves. Anything to get themselves sent home. In my opinion being a Marine and knowing all he knows about gun control and awareness it was not an accident. I could give examples all day on this matter, because like I said I seen it happen weekly for years. About half that go into the Marines end up getting kick out becuase of they couldn't handle it mentally. Turst me it sucks your angry, home sick, missing the goods and thinking about that 15 mile run you have at 0530 in the morning it takes its toll.
Marine Wife

Reston, VA

#26 Jan 25, 2008
Even though they have rules for guns and personal weapons, those rules are not always followed (I know that for a fact). Yes, they should register their guns, but do they? Yes, the weapons should be stored away properly, but are they?

As for any visitors, well, go to Camp Lejeune and register for a 3 day base pass. Come back the next day with your gun in your car or on you, and let me know if you get stopped...

And to the family of the young Marine, God Bless you. May this Marine Rest in Peace.
Not Important

Indianapolis, IN

#27 Jan 25, 2008
My friend was a good friend of this youngman and they said that him and another person were handling weapons in the barracks and the gun "accidentally" went off. I've been around guns long enough to know that when they're loaded anything is possible. Sometimes safteys do not always work. It is hard to say what might have happened. They were propablly horse playing around with a loaded gun and the saftey popped off. Although My sympathy does go out to the family and friends.
Chris

Edison, NJ

#28 Jan 25, 2008
Ryan Johnson wrote:
I was in the Marine Corps and stationed at 29 Palms and other various stations around the world. I have a hard time believing it was not self inflicted. Being in the Marine Corps puts such a mental strain and drain on soldiers it can and does drive people over the extremes.
Weekly guys are claiming thier are gay, trying to commit suicide, going AWOL, popping on piss test on purpose, faking injury, acting crazy and even actually killing themselves. Anything to get themselves sent home. In my opinion being a Marine and knowing all he knows about gun control and awareness it was not an accident. I could give examples all day on this matter, because like I said I seen it happen weekly for years. About half that go into the Marines end up getting kick out becuase of they couldn't handle it mentally. Turst me it sucks your angry, home sick, missing the goods and thinking about that 15 mile run you have at 0530 in the morning it takes its toll.
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with some of the things you said in your post. First is you say you were a Marine, then you say "mental strain and drain on solders"? When I was in the Marine Corps, it was considered an insult to call a Marine a "soldier" No offence to you Army guys. You earn the tittle United States Marine, and that sticks with you the rest of your life. I have been out for 20 years and some of my buddies still try to get under my skin by calling me a soldier. They know that is the only way they can get me going. Second you talk about all these Marines that leave the service by doing all this crazy stuff like "claiming their are gay, trying to commit suicide, going AWOL, popping on piss test on purpose, faking injury, acting crazy and even actually killing themselves" I'm not saying that it doesn't happen, but I have never seen it myself in the 12 years I was in. I only knew of one Marine that got out before his EAS. And that was on a hardship discharge. His Father passed away and he was their only child. He was brought up on a farm and his mother was not going to make it on her own with out his help. I don't remember all the details, but we all knew that he struggled with the decision himself. If you seen this stuff "weekly" You must have been in a totally different Marine Corps than I was. You say half get kicked out? That I know for sure is B.S. Most of the nonhackers are weeded out in Boot Camp. The Marine Corps makes it a point to do that. They don't want to try and make a Marine out of someone that doesn't want to be one. And 15 mile runs are rare. Usually 5 miles except on Fridays when the battalion or Regimental Commander is running with you.

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