Indiana Marine died in barracks

Indiana Marine died in barracks

There are 28 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Jan 24, 2008, titled Indiana Marine died in barracks. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

The shooting death of a Marine from Indiana found over the weekend in his barracks room appears to have been an accident, officials said.

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HoosierGran

Indianapolis, IN

#1 Jan 24, 2008
Sure is not good stuff coming out of the Marines these days!
My heart and prayers are with this young man's family. So sad that he made it through Iraq only to come home to die in the barracks - this should be a safe place for our service men and women!
Double T

Indianapolis, IN

#2 Jan 24, 2008
They will say anything to cover up neglect.
odd

United States

#3 Jan 24, 2008
Surely they don't allow personal weapons in barracks?
hey

Plainfield, IN

#5 Jan 24, 2008
Maybe I am confused? I dont understand the comment "it did not appear to be intentional or self-inflicted" but it came from a privately owned gun? So, are they saying that someone else shot him while handeling the weapon?

To his family, I am so sorry for your loss.
Barney

United States

#4 Jan 24, 2008
odd wrote:
Surely they don't allow personal weapons in barracks?
I'm sure they don't allow weapons in barracks, but barracks typically don't have metal detectors so if someone wants to bring a gun there is nothing to stop them. Same thing with many apartments and dorm rooms. Guns typically aren't allowed in these places either, but there is nothing to really stop them.
Andrea

Plainfield, IN

#6 Jan 24, 2008
I know for certain they do not allow personal weapons in the barracks and do random room inspections. In order to have a personal weapon on the base, you have to lock it up securely at your company's designated place. Smells like cover up to me.
Guns should stay home

Duncan, OK

#7 Jan 24, 2008
Barney wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sure they don't allow weapons in barracks, but barracks typically don't have metal detectors so if someone wants to bring a gun there is nothing to stop them. Same thing with many apartments and dorm rooms. Guns typically aren't allowed in these places either, but there is nothing to really stop them.
I totally agree, in college our Law Enforcement majors were not allowed to carry weapons into the dorms, but did.
Some people seem to need their guns with them at all times to either feel superior or safe.
Either way, it's not safe for the rest of us.
IndyArmyVet

Indianapolis, IN

#8 Jan 24, 2008
Guns should stay home wrote:
<quoted text>
Either way, it's not safe for the rest of us.
That's the dumbest fugging thing I've ever heard.
Marine Wife

Reston, VA

#9 Jan 24, 2008
Maybe it was a visitor on the base? If that's the case, then they need to step up their security.

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Since: Oct 07

Sasparilla

#10 Jan 24, 2008
Sniff, sniff....anybody else smell that?
A Marine Mom

Elkhart, IN

#11 Jan 24, 2008
Thank you Cameron for your service to this country. You will be missed by all of us here in this community as well as those at 29 Palms. God bless your family and God bless the Marine Corps. Semper Fi
A Marine Mom

Elkhart, IN

#12 Jan 24, 2008
And yes, they are alllowed to have personal weapons in their barracks. Whatever happened, there is a family that has lost a son and a country that has lost a hero. That is what we should be focusing on here. God bless you Cameron!
free will

Mertztown, PA

#13 Jan 24, 2008
having been a resident of 29 palms myself i can tell you that carrying personal firearms is prohibited, in fact you must register your firearms with the base MPs, and Im prety sure you must leave them in the armory, you can only take them when you go off base.
Curious

Indianapolis, IN

#14 Jan 24, 2008
Recently returned from IRAQ? I wonder if it was a buddy's war souvenir?
former woman Marine

Indianapolis, IN

#15 Jan 24, 2008
A Marine Mom wrote:
And yes, they are alllowed to have personal weapons in their barracks. Whatever happened, there is a family that has lost a son and a country that has lost a hero. That is what we should be focusing on here. God bless you Cameron!
I would be interested to know when the policy of allowing POWs into barracks was set in to place. That was a highly punishable offense when I was enlisted 90-96.
manners much

Troy, MI

#16 Jan 24, 2008
Double T wrote:
They will say anything to cover up neglect.
Yes they will. The soldiers returning from Iraq have seen things the rest of us couldn't even begin to imagine.

My thoughts are with his family
Jordan

Indianapolis, IN

#17 Jan 24, 2008
To Cameron Babcocks family..... It is an honor to have a member in the family to defend a country that is falling apart, but thank you for letting him pursue his career!!! It is an honorable job to have!! God bless, I am praying for your family!
safety first

Chicago, IL

#18 Jan 24, 2008
www.quanticoarms.com/documents/faq/faqmain.as...

There are specific rules for personal weapons. They should be unloaded, have the ammo stored away from the gun, taken out only when going on an approved hunt or when approved for going to the shooting range.
free will

Mertztown, PA

#19 Jan 24, 2008
safety first wrote:
www.quanticoarms.com/documents /faq/faqmain.asp
There are specific rules for personal weapons. They should be unloaded, have the ammo stored away from the gun, taken out only when going on an approved hunt or when approved for going to the shooting range.
these are rules for Quantico, another base on the other side of the country,- they are not the same rules as 29 palms- and your website is basicaly information for civilians who want to use military shooting ranges.-- you CAN NOT carry personal firearms at any Marine Corps base.

for several reasons especialy because
suicide rate in the marines is far higher than any other branch due to our strict policies and training,
some people just cant handle it.

an angry mentaly broken well trained marine is someone who could easily kill dozens of people before being stopped.

So yes the military dose exercise percaution with firearms, you should see what they do at MCRD depots

all rifles are locked with chains to racks through the chamber, no amunition is near and the NCO must inspect that every weapon is secure.

not to mention on the range they have metal detectors and pat downs to keep people from taking rounds. plus they also have armed people watching incase someone snaps during range time.
Old Roy

Newport, KY

#20 Jan 24, 2008
You want answers?
I think I'm entitled.
You want answers?!
I want the truth!
You can't handle the truth!

Son, we live in a world that has walls and those walls need to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and curse the Marines; you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives and that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives.
You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use then as the backbone of a life trying to defend something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you," and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.

Did you order the code red?
I did the job I had to do.
Did you order the code red?!
You're God damn right I did!

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