Bode paints dishonest picture of generals

As a DePauw University graduate, a native of Plymouth, Ind., and a retired Air Force general, I take issue with DePauw professor Ken Bode's July 27 column, "Don't take the generals' word." I served with a group ... Full Story
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Ross

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#1 Aug 7, 2007
The officers share "honor, integrity and devotion to the Constitution"...? I would think Larry Tibbetts believes this as long as they agree with him. What does he say about the generals who have told Bush the truth, and then Bush has shown them the door?

What does Tibbetts say about the "honor, integrity and devotion to the Constitution" of the former highest ranking officers who testified to Congress last week about how Pat Tillman's death was lied about and exploited? What does Tibbetts say about how these officers couldn't bring themselves to take any responsibility for what happened on their watch?

It's obvious Tibbetts is continuing his playground spat with Ken Bode and anyone who dares to have a different opinion then he does. There's a negative aspect to wanting to believe all officers have a lock-step mentality as Tibbetts and his believe-as-I-do-or-else ditto heads do, and that means you always rule out the truth if it doesn't fit with you blind faith of the moment. Officers have been very good at doing that also.
lastrep

Indianapolis, IN

#3 Aug 7, 2007
Ross wrote:
The officers share "honor, integrity and devotion to the Constitution"...? I would think Larry Tibbetts believes this as long as they agree with him. What does he say about the generals who have told Bush the truth, and then Bush has shown them the door?
What does Tibbetts say about the "honor, integrity and devotion to the Constitution" of the former highest ranking officers who testified to Congress last week about how Pat Tillman's death was lied about and exploited? What does Tibbetts say about how these officers couldn't bring themselves to take any responsibility for what happened on their watch?
It's obvious Tibbetts is continuing his playground spat with Ken Bode and anyone who dares to have a different opinion then he does. There's a negative aspect to wanting to believe all officers have a lock-step mentality as Tibbetts and his believe-as-I-do-or-else ditto heads do, and that means you always rule out the truth if it doesn't fit with you blind faith of the moment. Officers have been very good at doing that also.
He gave his opinion, you gave yours. Since you have to spice yours up with "lock-step" and "ditto head" comments you must not be too sure of your position.
Dan

Indianapolis, IN

#4 Aug 7, 2007
Gee! I thought Bode was describing the character of academicians, being one and not in the military.
Foxblow

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#5 Aug 7, 2007
Ross wrote:
The officers share "honor, integrity and devotion to the Constitution"...? I would think Larry Tibbetts believes this as long as they agree with him. What does he say about the generals who have told Bush the truth, and then Bush has shown them the door?
What does Tibbetts say about the "honor, integrity and devotion to the Constitution" of the former highest ranking officers who testified to Congress last week about how Pat Tillman's death was lied about and exploited? What does Tibbetts say about how these officers couldn't bring themselves to take any responsibility for what happened on their watch?
It's obvious Tibbetts is continuing his playground spat with Ken Bode and anyone who dares to have a different opinion then he does. There's a negative aspect to wanting to believe all officers have a lock-step mentality as Tibbetts and his believe-as-I-do-or-else ditto heads do, and that means you always rule out the truth if it doesn't fit with you blind faith of the moment. Officers have been very good at doing that also.
Don't forget about Rummy outing the soldier who did the right thing in exposing Abu Ghraib.
Teddy Roosevelt

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#7 Aug 7, 2007
Tammy wrote:
Liberals. Traitors. Pathetic.
To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else."

"Roosevelt in the Kansas City Star"
May 7, 1918
lastrep

Indianapolis, IN

#8 Aug 7, 2007
Teddy Roosevelt wrote:
<quoted text>
To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else."
"Roosevelt in the Kansas City Star"
May 7, 1918
I must have missed that announcement. When and where was it said, and by whom? There must have been an announcement also that those who criticise those who criticise should be quiet.
Foxblow

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#9 Aug 7, 2007
lastrep wrote:
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I must have missed that announcement. When and where was it said, and by whom? There must have been an announcement also that those who criticise those who criticise should be quiet.
You're an avid Fox Propaganda viewer, they announce it daily. Aren't you paying attention?
lastrep

Indianapolis, IN

#10 Aug 7, 2007
Foxblow wrote:
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You're an avid Fox Propaganda viewer, they announce it daily. Aren't you paying attention?
Yes I am, and I've never heard that announced. When, where, and by whom?

Since: Jul 07

Indianapolis, IN

#11 Aug 7, 2007
Many of us decided long ago to not pay too much attention to anything Ken Bode says.
Foxblow

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#12 Aug 7, 2007
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Yes I am, and I've never heard that announced. When, where, and by whom?
Daily, by O'Reilly, Hannity, Hume, Malkin, Gibson, Et al. Since they are the Spokesnetwork for the administration, this is not surprising. Remember, the "surge" is working, unless you need electricity in 120 degree weather.
ees

Kankakee, IL

#13 Aug 7, 2007
So who ordered Abu Graib? Which military officers with their bond of honor, integrity and devotion to the constitution ordered American soldiers to commit crimes against humanity at Abu Graib and other places? Or did the orders come from Bush and Cheney in the White House? Or did the privates themselves make the decision to abuse detainees? And if they did, what does that say about discipline in the military?
We are waiting for accountability.
ees

Kankakee, IL

#14 Aug 7, 2007
What about Colin Powell, former military officer, who lied to the American public and the world about the fraudulent intelligence that led to sending American soldiers to war in Iraq. Where was his honor, integrity and devotion to the Constitution or to our soldiers? He knew what he was doing but his loyalty to Bush/Cheney trumped his loyalty to the rule of law and to our soldiers.
The top brass that was honest was fired. Anyone who is not suspicious of Gen.Patraeus has not been paying attention.
lastrep

Indianapolis, IN

#15 Aug 7, 2007
Foxblow wrote:
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Daily, by O'Reilly, Hannity, Hume, Malkin, Gibson, Et al. Since they are the Spokesnetwork for the administration, this is not surprising. Remember, the "surge" is working, unless you need electricity in 120 degree weather.
With so many saying what you claim there should be at least one clip of it. Can't find one? It didn't and doesn't happen.
cliff zeider

United States

#16 Aug 7, 2007
Hey, Way to go General. Cliff
Larry

United States

#17 Aug 7, 2007
Hi, folks. This is Larry Tibbetts. Just want all of you to know I appreciate your taking the time to read and comment on the letter. I may not agree with your point of view, but I'd fight to protect your right to have it. Ain't democracy fun? Many thanks again to each of you.
Google

United States

#19 Aug 7, 2007
lastrep wrote:
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I must have missed that announcement. When and where was it said, and by whom? There must have been an announcement also that those who criticise those who criticise should be quiet.
From the June 23 Hannity & Colmes:

COLMES: Are all the American people that don't support him [President George W. Bush] dumb?

COULTER: No. I think, as I indicated in my last book, they're traitors.
Google

United States

#20 Aug 7, 2007
Year = 2004
bill nicholas

Denver, CO

#21 Aug 8, 2007
couldn't agree more with the General..and, not sure what Fox News has to do with all this..Bode is the issue and it is about time someone took him to task..DePauw, '59
lastrep

Indianapolis, IN

#22 Aug 8, 2007
Google wrote:
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From the June 23 Hannity & Colmes:
COLMES: Are all the American people that don't support him [President George W. Bush] dumb?
COULTER: No. I think, as I indicated in my last book, they're traitors.
wow, announced every day and you have to go back to 2004 to find it?
Thanks for making my case.
Someone

Burbank, CA

#23 Aug 8, 2007
lastrep wrote:
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wow, announced every day and you have to go back to 2004 to find it?
Thanks for making my case.
2004 was an election year. In a presidential election season, anyone who voices opposition to the incumbent is a traitor? What kind of a case are you making?

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