Teacher's aide accused of stapling st...

Teacher's aide accused of stapling student

There are 157 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Oct 11, 2007, titled Teacher's aide accused of stapling student. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

A fourth-grade teacher's aide resigned after he was accused of trying to staple a piece of paper to a student's forehead.

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miss teacher lady

Philadelphia, PA

#165 Oct 13, 2007
sorry, for the repost, i didn't realize the first post actually posted.

Since: Feb 07

Indy

#166 Oct 13, 2007
miss teacher lady wrote:
wow...
just wow.
those who teach AND parent should be the only ones allowed to make comments. and so i will.
stupid comments like "teachers are control freaks" should be deleted. we HAVE to have control.
this kid has no home training and should have listened. stapling is a bit extreme, but i don't even think it went that far. i think it was an accident and mom/paper blew it up. back in my day there were 2 options: no tv over the weekend or a spanking. i was grateful for that! i only had to be spanked once. i'm 25 and those days aren't far from now as i'm not old. i was afraid of parent-teacher conferences because my grandparents would automatically believe the teacher- back in the bible days when teachers were respected that is..
MTL, Your comments are based on experience and are taken as such. However, they are all generalizations and you don't know any more specifics about this incident than the rest of us. You "don't think" the aide "really stapled the girl". Everything you have pontificated about is based on that assumption. You may be right but I am not aware that you were a "fly on the wall" any more than anyone else who has posted here. I agree that there have been an excessively large number of ignorant posts but most of the more illiterate and judgmental ones have been in basic agreement with your position which is to "blame the victim". Just as a hypothetical, suppose at some point it become clear that the aide DID, in fact, staple the note to the girl's forehead? The news report mentions two puncture holes having broken the skin but I agree that could be an exaggeration. Suppose it is accurate? Do you still blame the victim and become an apologist for the aide? Either way, it is battery under Indiana law (defined as "any unauthorized touching"). I am a parent, grandparent and great-grandparent and have taught at several levels during my lifetime. Despite my having "qualified", under your definition, to give my opinion, the idea that comments should be limited to those from posters who are both teachers and parents is simply specious.
HamCo

United States

#167 Oct 13, 2007
Do that to my kid and we are doing 'DOWNTOWN' with a Louisville Slugger.
lastrep

Columbus, IN

#168 Oct 13, 2007
Respect someone that would use such poor judgement as to cause two punctures on the girls forehead? I don't think so.
top secret

Atlanta, GA

#169 Oct 13, 2007
miss teacher lady wrote:
sorry, for the repost, i didn't realize the first post actually posted.
Talk about stupid and dumb...look who is calling the kettle black...

I find it disgusting that you continue to have those words in your vocabulary as you are a teacher and all...not nice...not nice at all
Just so you know

AOL

#170 Oct 13, 2007
I still stand by my statement. My personal experiences with teachers both professionally and in my immediate family, indeed they are control freaks.

Also by your grammar, mis-spellings and your rant, I doubt you are a teacher or you have proved my point by your posts. Here are some examples.

You wrote:
1. i agree with the poster who basically said if you're not a parent don't judge another and if you're not a teacher don't judge one. CONTROL

2.your comment is null & void (you werent there either)

3.those who teach AND parent should be the only ones allowed to make comments.
stupid comments like "teachers are control freaks" should be deleted. we HAVE to have control.
this kid has no home training and should have listened. stapling is a bit extreme, but i don't even think it went that far.(CONTROL AND INTIMIDATION).

By your comments you have proved my point. Your comments are really scary!

Cpetr13

“Reality is better than truth”

Since: Jun 07

Indianapolis

#171 Oct 15, 2007
In other words, you're one of those parents who supply the world with brats.

Thanks. When your grown-up child pulls their brat act on me, they can be assured of being disappointed; I have no problem telling a whiny brat of any age to shut up and grow up.
Mom near Plymouth wrote:
I live near Plymouth where this happened and let me tell you all something. This LITTLE GIRL was being a typical 9 year old and having a little fun. The male teacher's aide had a bad attitude and should have NEVER touched any child in anger. There is definitely a difference between disiplining and a violent act! Children do not always listen because they are NOT adults with adult reasoning. The aide on the other hand is an adult and should have controlled himself. I am shocked at so many child-haters posting their sick ideas of what is okay to do to innocent children. Go ahead and show your hate towards children, but remember these same children will be your caretakers when you get old and you will want them to be more understanding of your imperfections. Think about it.

Cpetr13

“Reality is better than truth”

Since: Jun 07

Indianapolis

#172 Oct 15, 2007
And who will parent your child when you are in jail, neanderthal?
HamCo wrote:
Do that to my kid and we are doing 'DOWNTOWN' with a Louisville Slugger.

Cpetr13

“Reality is better than truth”

Since: Jun 07

Indianapolis

#173 Oct 15, 2007
You don't get out much, do you?
lastrep wrote:
Respect someone that would use such poor judgement as to cause two punctures on the girls forehead? I don't think so.

Cpetr13

“Reality is better than truth”

Since: Jun 07

Indianapolis

#174 Oct 15, 2007
Often, being a teacher is not nice--especially when dealing with whiny brats and their whiny progenitors (they are NOT parents).
top secret wrote:
<quoted text>
Talk about stupid and dumb...look who is calling the kettle black...
I find it disgusting that you continue to have those words in your vocabulary as you are a teacher and all...not nice...not nice at all

Cpetr13

“Reality is better than truth”

Since: Jun 07

Indianapolis

#175 Oct 15, 2007
Teachers NEED to control their classrooms, you idiot. They have upwards from 20 kids at a time, all of whom are supposed to be doing the same thing under supervision.

You get up in front of a group like that and see how long you can do the job. You have to control, and that may mean the use of intimidation. What would you do, just let them do whatever they pleased?
Just so you know wrote:
I still stand by my statement. My personal experiences with teachers both professionally and in my immediate family, indeed they are control freaks.
Also by your grammar, mis-spellings and your rant, I doubt you are a teacher or you have proved my point by your posts. Here are some examples.
You wrote:
1. i agree with the poster who basically said if you're not a parent don't judge another and if you're not a teacher don't judge one. CONTROL
2.your comment is null & void (you werent there either)
3.those who teach AND parent should be the only ones allowed to make comments.
stupid comments like "teachers are control freaks" should be deleted. we HAVE to have control.
this kid has no home training and should have listened. stapling is a bit extreme, but i don't even think it went that far.(CONTROL AND INTIMIDATION).
By your comments you have proved my point. Your comments are really scary!
Just so you know

AOL

#177 Oct 15, 2007
Teachers NEED to control their classrooms, you idiot.

Teachers need to have STRUCTURE and maintain a level of control through structure. Not physical control over students.

Misbehavors are dealt with through clear steps of discipline. Where the students KNOW ahead of time this is what will happen if you misbehave. Not a shamful outburst of trying to staple a note to their head. I doubt if that is in the student handbook!

Someone who has NO CONTROL over temper can never expect to set an example or to maintain a level control within the classroom.

Cpetr13

“Reality is better than truth”

Since: Jun 07

Indianapolis

#178 Oct 15, 2007
Are you saying that no one told this little brat that if she didn't do as she was told, she would be punished? The aide obviously had not planned on stapling the kid, and the kid just got pricked a little--you think it takes much effort to get a staple to stick into flesh or bone? I know several people who have at one point or another managed to staple themselves.

If the aide WANTED to staple her,it would have been a lot worse. I suspect that the kid move when he rested the stapler against her head. NOT that this is a good disciplinary technique, but neither did he plan on anything happening either.

As I said earlier, I would have just ripped it off her forehead and she would have felt a sensation along the lines of ripping off a band-aid. Or just told her parents to find another school where they allow brats to do whatever they want, whenever they want.
Just so you know wrote:
Teachers NEED to control their classrooms, you idiot.
Teachers need to have STRUCTURE and maintain a level of control through structure. Not physical control over students.
Misbehavors are dealt with through clear steps of discipline. Where the students KNOW ahead of time this is what will happen if you misbehave. Not a shamful outburst of trying to staple a note to their head. I doubt if that is in the student handbook!
Someone who has NO CONTROL over temper can never expect to set an example or to maintain a level control within the classroom.
geepers

Bellefontaine, OH

#179 Oct 26, 2007
not to self......duct tape...
funnymantle

Bellefontaine, OH

#180 Oct 26, 2007
and my mom alswys said...you need that like you need another hole in your hear..lol
funnymantle

Bellefontaine, OH

#181 Oct 26, 2007
correction...you need one of those like you need another hole in your head..
New Florida Program

United States

#182 Dec 24, 2007
How did this work out? Our district in Northwest Florida is considering piercing the ears of all the students and installing a clip that all important papers would be attached too. This would insure that the papers would get home, but we are a bit fearful of just what the liability would be.

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