4 Lives Cut Short -- Courant.com

4 Lives Cut Short -- Courant.com

There are 227 comments on the Hartford Courant story from Aug 25, 2007, titled 4 Lives Cut Short -- Courant.com. In it, Hartford Courant reports that:

Thursday night began with eight teenage friends having dinner in Southington, then splashing in a swimming pool at a Watertown condominium complex.

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jack_gilead

Tolland, CT

#1 Aug 25, 2007
Terrible, senseless loss. My prayers to the families.
The Critic

Newington, CT

#2 Aug 25, 2007
Ever since I was a small boy up until present day. I have been told of, read of and witnessed more friends, family members and others robbed of friends, brothers, sisters and children from sensless car wrecks involving young children. These my friends were children. I know you cannot protect them every second of the day. We have implemented laws to take the place of common sense. Common sense that parents should have and should impose daily on there children when it comes to driving, multiply occupants, curfews according to the law and the dangers associated with new drivers. We lose more children today from this kind of tragedy than nearly any other natural cause of death. Its time, much like the extreme measures we have taken with sexual affenders. Its time we lay down the laws where everyday people do not have the spine to. I personally do not think a student "Child" under the age of 18 should be driving unless they are going to work, school or have a bonafied reason to be traveling on the road. especially late at night. And that should be with a minumum of occupants, not to include a small portion of there graduating class... How many more of our young children have to die before we get the picture folks. Articles such as this one are daily in almost every community there is everywhere... lets get it together Adults......Take action before its your son or daughter that is killed because we the adults do not use common sense where children do not know how too....
Todd

Plainville, CT

#3 Aug 25, 2007
The Critic wrote:
Ever since I was a small boy up until present day. I have been told of, read of and witnessed more friends, family members and others robbed of friends, brothers, sisters and children from sensless car wrecks involving young children. These my friends were children. I know you cannot protect them every second of the day. We have implemented laws to take the place of common sense. Common sense that parents should have and should impose daily on there children when it comes to driving, multiply occupants, curfews according to the law and the dangers associated with new drivers. We lose more children today from this kind of tragedy than nearly any other natural cause of death. Its time, much like the extreme measures we have taken with sexual affenders. Its time we lay down the laws where everyday people do not have the spine to. I personally do not think a student "Child" under the age of 18 should be driving unless they are going to work, school or have a bonafied reason to be traveling on the road. especially late at night. And that should be with a minumum of occupants, not to include a small portion of there graduating class... How many more of our young children have to die before we get the picture folks. Articles such as this one are daily in almost every community there is everywhere... lets get it together Adults......Take action before its your son or daughter that is killed because we the adults do not use common sense where children do not know how too....
I Agree completly
john

Chesterfield, MO

#4 Aug 25, 2007
totally irresponsible for any parent to let such a young driver own/drive such a high performance race car
confused

South Windsor, CT

#5 Aug 25, 2007
It seems today's parents are more concerned with being *friends* with their children than with being a parent. The lack of restrictions and discipline and unwillingness to say 'no' highly contributes to situations such as this. My thoughts and prayers go out to all of the family members and friends of these young people. I am sad for them.
Child Watcher

Wethersfield, CT

#6 Aug 25, 2007
Parent, let's watch our children better. These kids went from homes in Farmington/Burlington to dinner in Southington to swimming in Watertown and then back home to the greater Hartford area. Doesn't that sound like way, way too much highway driving just for a night of "fun?" Most of the night was on the road. Limit your child's driving to what is necessary and reasonable.
Mom of soon to be driver

United States

#7 Aug 25, 2007
To "The Critic":
Very well said. Thank you for that.
My sympathies, prayers and thoughts go out to all of the families and friends of these four precious children.
TC Mots

United States

#8 Aug 25, 2007
A license to drive is a privilege, and should not be handed out to anyone under the age of 18. And for that first year, driving after a certain hour at night (when it's DARK) should not be allowed. We can't change how teens see themselves, i.e., as invincible, but we can change some approaches to the things they are exposed to. If a teen has a couple of speeding infractions against them, they should lose that license, that privilege to drive, for a year. Strict rules and regulations that are enforced may help teens see how serious driving is, and how dangerous is can be, each and every day.

My heart just breaks for these families....their lives will never be the same, their pain will never really go away.
MEG

Windsor, CT

#9 Aug 25, 2007
john wrote:
totally irresponsible for any parent to let such a young driver own/drive such a high performance race car
Amen!

I hope the parents and family of the these kids can one day find peace with this tragedy.
TC Mots

United States

#10 Aug 25, 2007
Child Watcher wrote:
Parent, let's watch our children better. These kids went from homes in Farmington/Burlington to dinner in Southington to swimming in Watertown and then back home to the greater Hartford area. Doesn't that sound like way, way too much highway driving just for a night of "fun?" Most of the night was on the road. Limit your child's driving to what is necessary and reasonable.
I am in total agreement. Way too much time on the road; the highway, no less.
Mourner

United States

#11 Aug 25, 2007
Many people have commented on the situation very harshly, dropping the weight heavily on the parents' shoulders.

Why can't you heartless people put out some sympathy? The wound is still very tender and wide open. Let the wound heal before you try to pour salt in it...

My heart goes out to the families of the victims. May God be with you.

In Loving Memory:

R.I.P. Alyssa Sean Myles Jordan
only the good die young...
Katie

Branford, CT

#12 Aug 25, 2007
I am in agreement that these young people should not have been driving a WRX (it's a "sporty" car that was popularized in street racing culture) and that they should not have been traveling such long distances.

When I was a teen - borrowing my parents' cars - I was allowed one other teen in the car with me at most, and typically the furthest I drove was across town.

Teens have no concept of their own mortality, and often behave in an impulsive and reckless manner. It's part of the teenage brain to be impulsive, actually. What they think will be some harmless fun can turn into a tragedy. This is why it's essential for parents to provide guidance and firm limits on automobile use, and to ensure that a child's driving is reasonable.

I am sorry for the loss of these kids. I am also sorry that their excessive speed and poor driving skills has led to very serious injury to two of the three INNOCENT occupants of the car that they hit. Just because the media is ignoring the other victims doesn't mean they aren't also having a difficult time - I hear the two passengers in the other car are in critical/grave condition!
Casual Observer

Morris, CT

#13 Aug 25, 2007
I hope the irony of the location of the crash scene,(adjacent to a cemetery), is not lost on the young mourners gathered to remember the lives of the four teens.

Remember, you are not invincible, speed kills and you are still learning how to make good decisions. The decisions that all drivers make while driving can and do have an everlasting affect on the lives of all.

My condolences to the families and friends of the four.
Chiming IN

Manchester, CT

#14 Aug 25, 2007
I have been reading the comments over the past two days and finally decided to chime in.

First, I would like to express sympathy to all of the families involved. I have a young child myself and my heart breaks for these families.

Second, people have been critical of those "pointing fingers" or coming to conclusions before all of the facts have been brought out. However, its hard not to when you do go over the facts that we have. A young inexperienced driver with 3 other teens was driving a high powered machine late at night TRYING TO MAKE A CURFEW. Its hard not to speculate that this was not an unavoidable crash.

I am a 30 yr old female whose parents did not allow me to get my license until I was 18. Even once I did, I was not allowed to drive at night. As much as I hated it back then, I look back now and thank my parents for their parenting. It made me realize how much of a responsibility having a license really is. Too many teens now a days see it as a right and not a PRIVELEDGE.

Finally, I would like to comment on the car the young man was driving. I did own a Subaru for a short time. When my husband and I went to the dealership he really wanted me to buy the WRX. To be honest, that car scared the crap out of me. I couldnt see having that much power, it just was not necessary. The fact that a 30 yr old person was scared by this car just makes me shake my head that a young inexperienced driver had one. Subarus are very safe cars especially in the winter time but not if they are abused for their power.
Tom

Newington, CT

#15 Aug 25, 2007
I have to agree with the predominant sentiments here. It is a terrible tragedy, I feel bad for the family involved, especially the people in the other car.

However, I do also lay some blame on the parents who allow this kid to be driving what is essentially a street racing car. We also need tougher laws. The kid had two speeding incidents. Anyone under 18 with a speeding ticket should lose their license until 18. A second infraction, lose it to 21. You don't have a right to drive aggressively and put others in danger.
Crookville

Hartford, CT

#16 Aug 25, 2007
Stay off your cell phone while driving before you kill someone!

Yup this is a message for you, the one who just cant stay off the phone while driving.

Remember me when you have that "near-accident".

Cell Phone use while driving is against the law.
THE HANGING JUDGE

Ronkonkoma, NY

#17 Aug 25, 2007
PLAIN AND SIMPLE , HE WAS DRIVING TO FAST AND WIPED OUT , IF HE WERE ALIVE I WOULD HAVE CHARGED HIM WITH 3 COUNTS OF MURDER , AND ONE COUNT OF EXCESSIVE SPEED !
canary

San Jose, CA

#18 Aug 25, 2007
We don't need more knee-jerk laws to protect our children. Big-Daddy government laws about teen driving will not stop these tragedies. What we need are parents that know how to be parents and set rules that their children have to live by. I was taught from day one that a car was a dangerous machine, and I've alway treated it as such. I saw friends of mine die in accidents because they were too careless. Unfortunatly, as long as people view cars as an extension of themselves and not as a dangerous, complicated machine, tragedies will continue. Look around, how many poor drivers do you see a day? How many near misses did you shug off last week? Do you expect we would teach our children any differently? I, for one, will.
Ann

United States

#19 Aug 25, 2007
This is a tough one. We had a friend (17 yr. old) of our family killed in a car accident in February. It was his choice to drive the way he did and he killed himself. Luckily, the other two passengers were not killed.

There's no use in pointing blame at this point. What happened, happened. We as parents can only hope that we install the correct values and lessons in our children. What decisions they make when they are on their own, are their choice. Whether they are right or wrong, it was this kids choice to drive the way he did. I'm sure the parents did not tell him to drive recklessly and speed to endanger the lives of others.

The laws definitely need to be stricter as far as violations and consequences. DMV and the State of CT are ones handing out licenses to 16 year olds with no driving experience.

You can say "what if" until the cow comes home, it is NOT going to bring these children back. Sean Landry chose to drive the way he did and by doing so, hurt the passengers he had with him, himself and many many other people affected by this. He will never see what turmoil his actions had that night.

Thank god the people in the other car were not hurt worse than they are. Good luck to them as well.

My heartfelt sympathy goes out to all these families. It is a senseless tragedy.
Mom of 5 2 in military

Manchester, CT

#20 Aug 25, 2007
This was a tragic accident. Itís so easy to say afterwards what should have been. The driver was a young adult. Restricting driving to school and work only does not subject the drivers to conditions they need to experience. Restrict the drivers under 18. Common sense goes a long way. Taking chances is what teenagers have done and will do since the beginning of time! So many of us have taken chances in life, unfortunately those chances can become permanent fatal accidents. I am sure all those who knew these young people will think twice before getting behind a wheel and driving. They will drive with care, they will think of their friends and they will be careful of the speed for a very long time. But there will come a day when once again they take the seriousness of driving for granted and expect to make it to their destination. That is part of the nature of being human. My heart goes out to the parents and friends of these young people. To them I say do not dwell on what if, but move on and cherish the memories of your loved ones. Reach out to each other for support. Too many of the postings in the past few days have been so critical of the parents. Who are any of you to judge? How lucky for you to live in a country where you can speak you mind! Do you take for granted the young men and women serving in the military who are dying everyday for you freedom to be so insensitive to these parents? Do you ever notice when our Flag is flown at staff and take a moment to realize that it means one of our young people have died for your freedom to say stupid things about parents who just lost a child in a terrible accident? And for that matter do you think of the family and friends of the service person who just lost their life so you can be so insensitive? I honestly hope that none of these parents read the postings of yesterday! Judge Not Least You Be Judged could easily apply here! I am sure all of you who have criticized these parents have done something at some point in time that would cause others to judge you! God bless everyone and may He give those who knew and loved these children the strength to move forward in life and cherish the gift we have.

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