Wind power eyed in Adams

Two weeks ago, Patriot Renewables LLC told the Savoy Selectmen that it intends to build an eight-turbine wind farm in the mountain town.

[winded]

It looks like the land rush is on, as big wind developers look to replace bucolic landscapes with industrial landcapes teeming with 400 foot turbines. Once the Wine Reform Siting Bill passes the state legislature, at the urging of Patrick, local municipalities will be stripped of any essential control over the process and big sleazy wind developers can pretty much do what they want. Add the state's plans to put turbines in the state forests and western MA could be a very different landscape in short order, characterized by energy sprawl. Of course the benighted among us will applaud, thinking that these actions will strike a might blow against global warming. I suggest those people dig a little deeper into the truth. Focusing all of our energies on wind turbines out here will have very little effect on global emissions. But it sure is going to make some rich folks from Boston who don't give a hoot about western MA or its land a whole lot richer. And we will be paying them, in the form of taxpayer credits they get that we fund and in the declining value of our land and homes. I feel sad for Savoy. It is clear that the town could potentially be host to more than hundred turbines. Typical state and private industrial practice: Find the poorest town and ruin it, all the while talking about progress.

[Blown Away]

winded wrote:

It looks like the land rush is on, as big wind developers look to replace bucolic landscapes with industrial landcapes teeming with 400 foot turbines. Once the Wine Reform Siting Bill passes the state legislature, at the urging of Patrick, local municipalities will be stripped of any essential control over the process and big sleazy wind developers can pretty much do what they want. Add the state's plans to put turbines in the state forests and western MA could be a very different landscape in short order, characterized by energy sprawl. Of course the benighted among us will applaud, thinking that these actions will strike a might blow against global warming. I suggest those people dig a little deeper into the truth. Focusing all of our energies on wind turbines out here will have very little effect on global emissions. But it sure is going to make some rich folks from Boston who don't give a hoot about western MA or its land a whole lot richer. And we will be paying them, in the form of taxpayer credits they get that we fund and in the declining value of our land and homes. I feel sad for Savoy. It is clear that the town could potentially be host to more than hundred turbines. Typical state and private industrial practice: Find the poorest town and ruin it, all the while talking about progress.

Very well said.

[adams man]

I guess you would rather ruin the environment by serving our energy needs with fossil fuels.Wind power is going to be part of our future so we need to work with the developers to put these turbines in the best spots possible.

[my opinion]

I think its GREAT!! You can't get anymore natural than wind power...I wish I had one in my back yard.

[Stubby]

Don't put up windmills because the effite elite don't like how they look. Is that the point of Post #1?

How about tombstones? Tombstones of young American men and momen fighting in geopolitical wars over oil. How do they look from where you sit?

Operation
Iraqi
Liberation.
??????????

[W T F]

Stubby wrote:

Don't put up windmills because the effite elite don't like how they look. Is that the point of Post #1?
How about tombstones? Tombstones of young American men and momen fighting in geopolitical wars over oil. How do they look from where you sit?
Operation
Iraqi
Liberation.
??????????

I think you're reaching a little too far with that comment...

[Voter]

winded wrote:

It looks like the land rush is on, as big wind developers look to replace bucolic landscapes with industrial landcapes teeming with 400 foot turbines. Once the Wine Reform Siting Bill passes the state legislature, at the urging of Patrick, local municipalities will be stripped of any essential control over the process and big sleazy wind developers can pretty much do what they want. Add the state's plans to put turbines in the state forests and western MA could be a very different landscape in short order, characterized by energy sprawl. Of course the benighted among us will applaud, thinking that these actions will strike a might blow against global warming. I suggest those people dig a little deeper into the truth. Focusing all of our energies on wind turbines out here will have very little effect on global emissions. But it sure is going to make some rich folks from Boston who don't give a hoot about western MA or its land a whole lot richer. And we will be paying them, in the form of taxpayer credits they get that we fund and in the declining value of our land and homes. I feel sad for Savoy. It is clear that the town could potentially be host to more than hundred turbines. Typical state and private industrial practice: Find the poorest town and ruin it, all the while talking about progress.

Declining value of property due to turbines? Nope.

I prefer the cheaper power and the unlimited resource.

[Former Adams Resident]

Agreed, way to far reaching, the Iraqi war was about "WMD's" not oil right.

W T F wrote:

<quoted text>
I think you're reaching a little too far with that comment...

[Local Grown]

It looks like the eastern end of the state finally discovered we're out here.

To bad we can't develop this stuff locally and make it benefit locals by reducing local energy costs instead of makeing outsiders fat off our resources?

[Adamsite]

Adams needs jobs, not wind turbines. What's in it for the town? Additional monies from the state to offset more land we can't tax? Yea, right. How about helping the town develop new industry and jobs. That's what Adams needs. I'm not seeing or hearing about ANYTHING the town is doing to grow the jobs it's citizens need. Just another way for the state to rape the town.

[akd]

You'd think $250,000 per year was a slap in the face or something, with all this kvetching. That's $250,000 that the people of Savoy won't have to pay in taxes, or $250,000 that the people of Savoy will be able to spend locally. That's almost $1,000 per household. Don't you think that will have an effect on jobs?(Not to mention many temporary construction jobs, and probably a maintenance position or two.)

Yes, the bulk of the project's income will go to the "outsiders" who are building it. Heaven forbid their $20+ million investment earns a return. We can't have that, since then people will actually want to invest money in the area. Better to lock them out and wait for "state money" so we can receive the windfall.

[adams man]

Adamsite wrote:

Adams needs jobs, not wind turbines. What's in it for the town? Additional monies from the state to offset more land we can't tax? Yea, right. How about helping the town develop new industry and jobs. That's what Adams needs. I'm not seeing or hearing about ANYTHING the town is doing to grow the jobs it's citizens need. Just another way for the state to rape the town.

This is a seperate issue,The town would recieve much needed tax money from the project.Do we need industry to create jobs?Yes,but the town also needs to find ways to create revenue and lower tax rates.This is a way to do it and create CLEAN renewable energy.Seems to me to be a win win

[my opinion]

National Grid has been screwing us for long enough...let the windmills spin!!

[Townee]

Agreed. It has the potential to be a win/win.

adams man wrote:

<quoted text>This is a seperate issue,The town would recieve much needed tax money from the project.Do we need industry to create jobs?Yes,but the town also needs to find ways to create revenue and lower tax rates.This is a way to do it and create CLEAN renewable energy.Seems to me to be a win win

[Amy]

I'm all in favor of windmill in Adams, I think it would be fantastic for the town. I don't understand how this is an either or (either windmills or jobs) isn't it both?

[frog]

i'm all for it also, help us to get some much needed tax breaks. no jobs are ever going to come to adams or north adams anymore. we need ways to help out the town. if you travel over seas there are windmill every where. america is a little behind in times. i also thing the wind mill are quit nice to look at. i would rather look at the wind mills then all the worn down and falling apart buildings in adams. just look at some of the buildings in town right on the main drag of things. look at summer st. the sweet shop plus the convenient store, burnetts old building. look at center st. the blocks and the manson building have bricks falling down from the building. park st seems to be finally fixing up the old building that caught on fire years ago. people talk about the dangers of wind mills but look at the dangers of the building that i just mention. someone is going to get hurt after all all of these building are right on the main drag where people walk every day.

[CURLY1]

akd wrote:

You'd think $250,000 per year was a slap in the face or something, with all this kvetching. That's $250,000 that the people of Savoy won't have to pay in taxes, or $250,000 that the people of Savoy will be able to spend locally. That's almost $1,000 per household. Don't you think that will have an effect on jobs?(Not to mention many temporary construction jobs, and probably a maintenance position or two.)
Yes, the bulk of the project's income will go to the "outsiders" who are building it. Heaven forbid their $20+ million investment earns a return. We can't have that, since then people will actually want to invest money in the area. Better to lock them out and wait for "state money" so we can receive the windfall.

exactly. That was my 1st thought, that this will help to insure that property taxes dont go up!

[CURLY1]

Amy wrote:

I'm all in favor of windmill in Adams, I think it would be fantastic for the town. I don't understand how this is an either or (either windmills or jobs) isn't it both?

very insightful....