Man stabs parishioners at church service

Apr 29, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: KOAT-TV

Mass had just ended at St. Jude Thaddeus Church in Albuquerque, New Mexico, and the choir had begun its closing hymns when it happened.

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Another serious and very sad tragedy caused by some mentally ill person.

May I also point out guns were not involved.
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May I also point out guns were not involved.
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His violent act would have only been limited by the number of rounds he could squeeze off before being tackled.
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Thank wrote:
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His violent act would have only been limited by the number of rounds he could squeeze off before being tackled.
reply is stupid, really stupid.

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Attacking people at their place of worship is really, really despicable.

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Drug use or mentally unstable? Another person who should be committed yet will likely be back on the street in a month if the take their meds, meds for which there is no way to ensure that person takes them either (for public protection) thanx to the legal sleaze.

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And from some of the posters it seems that how a person attempts or commits murder seems to trump everything else. We have enhanced laws for those committing a crime with a firearm. Look at Chicago. The districts that contain Chicago, Los Angeles and New York City ranked last in terms of federal gun law enforcement in 2012. You have to ask yourself why. California, Illinois and New York have some of the toughest laws on the books. We put up Red Light cameras to catch those who didn't obey the law. We catch people breaking the law and go after them for fines. We catch people illegally using or having a firearm and we are lax in prosecuting the cases? Go figure.

I await a reasoned response. One liner flames will do, because that is all they have. They shoot blanks.
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And from some of the posters it seems that how a person attempts or commits murder seems to trump everything else. We have enhanced laws for those committing a crime with a firearm. Look at Chicago. The districts that contain Chicago, Los Angeles and New York City ranked last in terms of federal gun law enforcement in 2012. You have to ask yourself why. California, Illinois and New York have some of the toughest laws on the books. We put up Red Light cameras to catch those who didn't obey the law. We catch people breaking the law and go after them for fines. We catch people illegally using or having a firearm and we are lax in prosecuting the cases? Go figure.
I await a reasoned response. One liner flames will do, because that is all they have. They shoot blanks.
Sorry but what exactly is your point?

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Attacking people at their place of worship is really, really despicable.
What of rhetoric that drives person to do tragedy?

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And from some of the posters it seems that how a person attempts or commits murder seems to trump everything else. We have enhanced laws for those committing a crime with a firearm. Look at Chicago. The districts that contain Chicago, Los Angeles and New York City ranked last in terms of federal gun law enforcement in 2012. You have to ask yourself why. California, Illinois and New York have some of the toughest laws on the books. We put up Red Light cameras to catch those who didn't obey the law. We catch people breaking the law and go after them for fines. We catch people illegally using or having a firearm and we are lax in prosecuting the cases? Go figure.
I await a reasoned response. One liner flames will do, because that is all they have. They shoot blanks.
Strange thing about death by gun, knife, arrow or a knitting needle thru the eye and out the ear, or a pressure cooker w/ the Martha Stewart seal of approval on it - one is just as dead regardless of the implement used. This is one of the reasons out legal system is so screwed up, we make laws but selectively enforce them when it seems prudent to do so.

Meanwhile politicians and governmental entities shy away from mental health issues because it opens an even bigger pandora's box that immigration issues does.

As for this stabbing tragedy, somehow I have trouble accepting he just snapped, that there were no indicators prior to this. Not saying that noting any would have made a difference, just that others who knew him claim he was such a good boy.

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there were indicators before. got fired from his job. told his supervisor he would put his eyes out when he was reprimanded for wearing a dollar store hat.

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there were indicators before. got fired from his job. told his supervisor he would put his eyes out when he was reprimanded for wearing a dollar store hat.
So it sounds like this particular fellow is mentally ill rather than evil.

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And who said he was evil? Not reading "People of the Lie". Guess it depends on your time frame and reality. To many, evil can be what a person does. An epithet. Or a state of being if you so choose to live in that reality. Mentally ill does not mean a person does evil. Neither inclusive, nor exclusive.

"Gangsters", for example, in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, can rate a V-code. No Mental Illness. It is part of their profession. Adult Anti-Social Behavior.

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http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/news/stat...

Now we can stigmatize the mentally ill and erode their civil liberties for the security of all. And this Palm Beach Sheriff will get federal monies to do so. Violence prevention will mean knocks on your door if someone turns you in for being a "kook" or person who hates the government or....an anonymous hotline to call. Sound familiar?

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http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com /news/news/state-regional-govt -politics/bradshaw-gets-1-mill ion-for-violence-prevention-un /nXbs4/
Now we can stigmatize the mentally ill and erode their civil liberties for the security of all. And this Palm Beach Sheriff will get federal monies to do so. Violence prevention will mean knocks on your door if someone turns you in for being a "kook" or person who hates the government or....an anonymous hotline to call. Sound familiar?
WOW......frightening and very sad, actually. There have been a few people I've stated I had ill will towards but that does not, in the least, mean that I wish them ill will at my hand. What really saddens me are the people who may want to call a hot-line because they are feeling suicidal but won't because they are afraid of this new "system". How many could have been talked out of it........

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Figure how many will now feel free to open up about their thoughts. Thought police. Thank you MOI.

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So it sounds like this particular fellow is mentally ill rather than evil.
Being "evil" would be mentally ill, no?

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Being "evil" would be mentally ill, no?
If that were true, then you would have been declared evil a long time ago!

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Being "evil" would be mentally ill, no?
No, not necessarily. There are people who know right from wrong and just choose to do evil, nasty things to other people. I don't think they would be considered mentally ill. This guy, who shot his own 9 month old daughter in the head because he thought his girlfriend, the daughter's mother, was cheating on him, is just plain selfish and evil. http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3020702.s...

Then we have people who are criminally insane. They might be delusional and not know right from wrong.

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No, not necessarily. There are people who know right from wrong and just choose to do evil, nasty things to other people. I don't think they would be considered mentally ill. This guy, who shot his own 9 month old daughter in the head because he thought his girlfriend, the daughter's mother, was cheating on him, is just plain selfish and evil. http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3020702.s...
Then we have people who are criminally insane. They might be delusional and not know right from wrong.
At some point society will be forced to confront the issue, and the determination of crazy, lunatic, mentally ill, criminally insane, whatever handle(s) one places upon the people, the topic will be quite interesting to follow. Anytime we categorize people we put forth some very interesting insights.

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http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Garde...

Escaped Mentally Ill Patient being sought by police. Obsessed with the Sandy Hook murders. California. Had an empty weapon prior to being detained. Had walked into a police station dressed in camos. Not happening more than usual. Just the subject du jour.

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