Razor/Barbed Wire Ordinance

Razor/Barbed Wire Ordinance

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“Each Thought Creates A Reality”

Since: Nov 08

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#1 Jun 19, 2013
No crime in Albuquerque. No break ins. So many City Council members said that RESIDENTIAL homes with barbed, ribbon or razor wire around their yards give a bad impression on the city (to whom?) and "it even made some areas look like a prison yard". Ban went into effect June 1. Guess this doesn't apply to businesses. Ok for them to protect their possessions. Not OK for residents to do so. Look at Mexico. I personally like the broken bottles in cement on top of the walls. Sort of a more ecological glass recycling look.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#2 Jun 19, 2013
Willothewisp, a person after me own heart.

“Matthew 16:13 - 17”

Since: Mar 13

Vladville

#3 Jun 19, 2013
Willothewisp wrote:
No crime in Albuquerque. No break ins. So many City Council members said that RESIDENTIAL homes with barbed, ribbon or razor wire around their yards give a bad impression on the city (to whom?) and "it even made some areas look like a prison yard". Ban went into effect June 1. Guess this doesn't apply to businesses. Ok for them to protect their possessions. Not OK for residents to do so. Look at Mexico. I personally like the broken bottles in cement on top of the walls. Sort of a more ecological glass recycling look.
Huszar may have solution. Glock Blocks necessary now, yes?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/17/th...

The Milwaukee, Oregon, neighbors in Clackamas County are headed by Coy Toloman, according to KOIN-TV, who said they don’t feel previous measures were doing enough.

“We don’t feel neighborhood watch is sufficient, and we don’t feel the Clackamas County Sheriff’s Office is sufficient,” Toloman said.

The group is getting word out in front of potential thieves by posting flyers that read:“This is a Glock block. We don’t call 911.”
Great

Huntsville, AL

#4 Jun 19, 2013
Huszar wrote:
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more paranoid armed idiots who think killing people is OK.

“Matthew 16:13 - 17”

Since: Mar 13

Vladville

#5 Jun 19, 2013
Great wrote:
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more paranoid armed idiots who think killing people is OK.
Think you mix up government and criminals which are same many times with law abiding people excercising American Constitution amendment two, yes?
Nope

United States

#6 Jun 19, 2013
Huszar wrote:
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Think you mix up government and criminals which are same many times with law abiding people excercising American Constitution amendment two, yes?
Think you very mixed up. Vigilantism is criminal. Bloodlust is un-American. 2nd amendment is about defending the country.

“Each Thought Creates A Reality”

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#7 Jun 19, 2013
Nope wrote:
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Think you very mixed up. Vigilantism is criminal. Bloodlust is un-American. 2nd amendment is about defending the country.
And please quote the 2nd Amendment where it is the people's right to keep and bear arms just to defend the country. The country right or wrong? Didn't do a very good job defending Great Britain/England who was the country. Try once more. Take a deep breath. And the colonists were doing something criminal according to England. And England did try to confiscate their arms. Let's see. The shot heard round the world.

“Matthew 16:13 - 17”

Since: Mar 13

Vladville

#8 Jun 19, 2013
Nope wrote:
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Think you very mixed up. Vigilantism is criminal. Bloodlust is un-American. 2nd amendment is about defending the country.
What is vigilantism? Amendment two is about defending country, self right?

Self-defense?
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#9 Jun 19, 2013
Willothewisp, person after me own heart, I'm beginning to like this Huszar. who is this person? Maybe I should ask Huszar. Come to think of it, the Brits did hang Nathan Hale as a common criminal. Do you suppose Baraq o Bamah's SS troops will have as much success in confiscation of weapons as say the Brits did or Hitler's SS?

“Matthew 16:13 - 17”

Since: Mar 13

Vladville

#10 Jun 19, 2013
dunadd wrote:
Willothewisp, person after me own heart, I'm beginning to like this Huszar. who is this person? Maybe I should ask Huszar. Come to think of it, the Brits did hang Nathan Hale as a common criminal. Do you suppose Baraq o Bamah's SS troops will have as much success in confiscation of weapons as say the Brits did or Hitler's SS?
Country is only as strong as weakest link. Fine American show.

Hope not to flee America as did relatives in Hungary when Germany invaded.

“US Navy”

Since: Jan 10

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#11 Jun 19, 2013
Restricting the use of it is wrong IMO. Safety is paramount and for some the razor wire is exactly what they need. If the City Council thinks it leaves a bad impression I have to ask a few questions:
- bad impression on/to whom?
- is crime better or worse than razor wire?
- if you're so concerned about impressions then do you think maybe you should put your constituents welfare first?
- and who is it that elects you?
- if impressions are truly important then perhaps there are better ways to go about it all, like problems YOU can address within the APD and legal system here, or is that unimportant?

Since: Aug 08

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#12 Jun 19, 2013
Great wrote:
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more paranoid armed idiots who think killing people is OK.
Oyyyyyy, I wish there was a stupid button!

Since: Aug 08

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#13 Jun 19, 2013
CornDogz wrote:
Restricting the use of it is wrong IMO. Safety is paramount and for some the razor wire is exactly what they need. If the City Council thinks it leaves a bad impression I have to ask a few questions:
- bad impression on/to whom?
- is crime better or worse than razor wire?
- if you're so concerned about impressions then do you think maybe you should put your constituents welfare first?
- and who is it that elects you?
- if impressions are truly important then perhaps there are better ways to go about it all, like problems YOU can address within the APD and legal system here, or is that unimportant?
I'm guessing some people might research a neighborhood first, on-line, to check things like public transit, schools and, gee, crime stats maybe? I really wish the city would start worrying more about those of us who are already here than trying to attract newcomers. Yeah, that'll happen!

p.s., I like the broken bottle idea!
IM NEVER WRONG

United States

#14 Jun 19, 2013
CornDogz wrote:
Restricting the use of it is wrong IMO. Safety is paramount and for some the razor wire is exactly what they need. If the City Council thinks it leaves a bad impression I have to ask a few questions:
- bad impression on/to whom?
- is crime better or worse than razor wire?
- if you're so concerned about impressions then do you think maybe you should put your constituents welfare first?
- and who is it that elects you?
- if impressions are truly important then perhaps there are better ways to go about it all, like problems YOU can address within the APD and legal system here, or is that unimportant?
It's leaves a negative impression with ME. Yes, it invites crime with others around you. What would happen if a child injured themselves? Elect those who will protect the welfare off all not just a select few. Who wants to visit ABQ only to see unsightly barbed wire around someone's home or business? I'd keep driving through and Not Stop. We have strict building ordinances@ here buddy. If you have weeds and overgrown grass, a much welcomed fine.

Since: Aug 08

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#15 Jun 19, 2013
IM NEVER WRONG wrote:
<quoted text> It's leaves a negative impression with ME. Yes, it invites crime with others around you. What would happen if a child injured themselves? Elect those who will protect the welfare off all not just a select few. Who wants to visit ABQ only to see unsightly barbed wire around someone's home or business? I'd keep driving through and Not Stop. We have strict building ordinances@ here buddy. If you have weeds and overgrown grass, a much welcomed fine.
Well, thankfully, you don't live here. As far as children go, one can only hope their parents would have enough brains to let their children know what barbed wire is and warn their children not to climb others' fences. Just sayin'!
why

Huntsville, AL

#16 Jun 19, 2013
Just left of right wrote:
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Oyyyyyy, I wish there was a stupid button!
is that? Actually writing out your stupid posts is too hard?
The

Huntsville, AL

#17 Jun 19, 2013
CornDogz wrote:
Restricting the use of it is wrong IMO. Safety is paramount and for some the razor wire is exactly what they need. If the City Council thinks it leaves a bad impression I have to ask a few questions:
- bad impression on/to whom?
- is crime better or worse than razor wire?
- if you're so concerned about impressions then do you think maybe you should put your constituents welfare first?
- and who is it that elects you?
- if impressions are truly important then perhaps there are better ways to go about it all, like problems YOU can address within the APD and legal system here, or is that unimportant?
APD shoots as many people as they can - give them a break.

“US Navy”

Since: Jan 10

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#18 Jun 19, 2013
IM NEVER WRONG wrote:
<quoted text> It's leaves a negative impression with ME. Yes, it invites crime with others around you. What would happen if a child injured themselves? Elect those who will protect the welfare off all not just a select few. Who wants to visit ABQ only to see unsightly barbed wire around someone's home or business? I'd keep driving through and Not Stop. We have strict building ordinances@ here buddy. If you have weeds and overgrown grass, a much welcomed fine.
- leaves a negative impression on you? Who cares?
- you're an idi0t so I wouldn't expect you to understand.
- please don't stop, keep on truckin'.
- your chemtrails rants are as buffoonish as you are<snort>
- unlikely a child would be going over a chainlink fence

“US Navy”

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#19 Jun 19, 2013
Just left of right wrote:
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I'm guessing some people might research a neighborhood first, on-line, to check things like public transit, schools and, gee, crime stats maybe? I really wish the city would start worrying more about those of us who are already here than trying to attract newcomers. Yeah, that'll happen!
p.s., I like the broken bottle idea!
What the CC has not accepted is the reason why it is razor wire has been used by some. Do they think people put it up as a badge of honor symbolizing power, or like it has some weird artistic juju slant? Hell no, its there for protection pure and simple. People wouldn't be putting it up unless they felt they needed it.

The city and county want new residents, more revenue. The fact we have less water (for instance) is of no consequence to them. They are pandering to the newly retired with a shitload of money from having sold their homes in Chicago and LA. That's part of the reason why prop taxes keep increasing, and partially why Santa Fe hates the colonias, yet it was those same entities who forced the locals out of town with the higher taxes they couldn't afford and who now live in those little colonias. Abq is on that same basic track too.
IM NEVER WRONG

United States

#20 Jun 19, 2013
CornDogz wrote:
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- leaves a negative impression on you? Who cares?
- you're an idi0t so I wouldn't expect you to understand.
- please don't stop, keep on truckin'.
- your chemtrails rants are as buffoonish as you are<snort>
- unlikely a child would be going over a chainlink fence
Looks like to me the ordnance was passed late in December according to news reports. Hats off the the City Council. This is not only a city issue, but Something that affects everyone. Did anyone mention injury and possible death to our wildlife? If a migratory bird is injured, then you the homeowner could be liable. Subject to a fine and/or imprisonment. You then could enjoy the barbed wire scenery. You want that to happen?

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