Are We A Republic or A Democracy

Are We A Republic or A Democracy

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“Each Thought Creates A Reality”

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#1 Jul 8, 2013
Seems that some posters think of us as some type of hybrid. Seen this issue bandied about on many threads. Rule of law? Rule by representatives? Rule by majority?

The Supremes decide (ironically, by majority ruling among the 9 justices) whether the law is constitutional. If the U.S. was not a republic, these questions would not even be raised and the matter would not go to the Supremes. The fact that the Supremes get to decide which laws are constitutional and has the power to revoke laws it thinks are unconstitutional demonstrates that the rule of law and the U.S. Constitution are higher authorities than the will of the majority at any given time.

My vote is for a Republic where an individual's rights are inalienable and not subject to a group's decision to take those away. I see a Democracy as rule by the group. Minority or individual rights need not apply. Like joining a homeowners association. Majority rules. Don't trust the majority rules. Rule by mob. Just kidding.

Then, of course, there is that Town Meeting form of local government alive and well in New England. An interesting experience in government for those who have been involved in one.
lolol

Albuquerque, NM

#2 Jul 8, 2013
lately seems like a mugabe type dictatorship, but thankfully, this too will pass
another

Huntsville, AL

#3 Jul 8, 2013
lolol wrote:
idiotic racist post.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#4 Jul 9, 2013
I prefer republic over democracy. However, in any type of governing, there isn't any pure. It is always tainted with the present presiding leader's person and personality. For instance for around 30 years, the Soviet Union was governed by Stalinism, not communism. Stalinism was governance by communism with a liberal, huge helping of Stalin's personality and personal form of governing. At the present I think the US is being governed by Obamaism, a form of socialism with plenty of his personality mixed in.
wow

Huntsville, AL

#5 Jul 9, 2013
dunadd wrote:
. At the present I think the US is being governed by Obamaism,
.
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#6 Jul 12, 2013
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Democracy is the road to socialism
How Democracy is being used to Destroy our Republic

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By JB Williams (Bio and Archives) Thursday, October 1, 2009

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/arti...

"Contrary to popular public education propaganda, the United States of America is NOT, has never been, and should never be a “democracy.” It is and must always be, a constitutional representative republic, and yes, there is a VERY significant difference.


Don’t confuse the term “democratic society” with “democracy.” A representative republic is a “democratic” form of self-governance - of, by and for “the people.” In the case of the Unites States, we have a system limited by the scope and authority granted to the Fed in the US Constitution.

In a representative republic, the term “the people” is interpreted to mean,“the individual citizen[s],” at large.

But a “democracy” as Thomas Jefferson said so well,“is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.” In other words, the term “the people” means the “ruling mob” in a “democracy.”

Seems that those supporting Prop 8 don't like that the minority was protected from the majority trying to assert their will upon them. An example of how a democracy and republic differ.

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#7 Jul 12, 2013
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Vladville

#8 Jul 12, 2013
Is not U.S. a union of socialists?

Russia and U.S. has similarities, yes?

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#9 Jul 12, 2013
Yes, Russia and the US are both on the planet earth unlike some of us.
Me Me Me Me

Scottsdale, AZ

#10 Jul 12, 2013
yes.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#11 Jul 12, 2013
Thank you so much, Willothewisp, for post 6. I now have a copy of that article in the CanadaFreePress and it is deeply appreciated.
cool

Laurinburg, NC

#12 Jul 26, 2013
Willothewisp wrote:
Seems that some posters think of us as some type of hybrid. Seen this issue bandied about on many threads. Rule of law? Rule by representatives? Rule by majority?
The Supremes decide (ironically, by majority ruling among the 9 justices) whether the law is constitutional. If the U.S. was not a republic, these questions would not even be raised and the matter would not go to the Supremes. The fact that the Supremes get to decide which laws are constitutional and has the power to revoke laws it thinks are unconstitutional demonstrates that the rule of law and the U.S. Constitution are higher authorities than the will of the majority at any given time.
My vote is for a Republic where an individual's rights are inalienable and not subject to a group's decision to take those away. I see a Democracy as rule by the group. Minority or individual rights need not apply. Like joining a homeowners association. Majority rules. Don't trust the majority rules. Rule by mob. Just kidding.
Then, of course, there is that Town Meeting form of local government alive and well in New England. An interesting experience in government for those who have been involved in one.
america is whatever the american government currently feels like being. you can call that cynical and i can ask you how the a government that says it believes in freedom justice and accountability and at the same time goes after whistleblowers for showing abuse of power.

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Vladville

#13 Jul 26, 2013
cool wrote:
<quoted text> america is whatever the american government currently feels like being. you can call that cynical and i can ask you how the a government that says it believes in freedom justice and accountability and at the same time goes after whistleblowers for showing abuse of power.
Huszar agrees with you, yes?

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#14 Jul 26, 2013
Good question<G>, particularly now that the Obama administration disagrees w/ the SCOTUS and is retaliating.
Hardly

Huntsville, AL

#15 Jul 26, 2013
CornDogz wrote:
Good question<G>, particularly now that the Obama administration disagrees w/ the SCOTUS and is retaliating.
retaliation. More about sticking up for the Voting Rights Act passed, examined and renewed by nearly everybody in Congress and gutted by a simple majority of radical activist judges.

But under section 3 of the Voting Rights Act, states with a recent record of attacks on the constitutional right to be free from racial discrimination in voting can be brought back under federal supervision. Since Texas has been shown to practice intentional racial discrimination and a federal court found that Texas Republicans charged with drawing the states’ legislative maps “consciously replaced many of [a] district’s active Hispanic voters with low-turnout Hispanic voters in an effort to strengthen the voting power of [the district's] Anglo citizens. In other words, they sought to reduce Hispanic voters’ ability to elect” a candidate of their choice.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/29/us/federal-...

Just two hours after the Supreme Court neutered much of the Voting Rights Act, Texas Attorney General Greg Abott (R) announced that the state would implement plans that will suppress minority voters.

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#16 Jul 26, 2013
Hardly wrote:
<quoted text>
retaliation. More about sticking up for the Voting Rights Act passed, examined and renewed by nearly everybody in Congress and gutted by a simple majority of radical activist judges.
But under section 3 of the Voting Rights Act, states with a recent record of attacks on the constitutional right to be free from racial discrimination in voting can be brought back under federal supervision. Since Texas has been shown to practice intentional racial discrimination and a federal court found that Texas Republicans charged with drawing the states’ legislative maps “consciously replaced many of [a] district’s active Hispanic voters with low-turnout Hispanic voters in an effort to strengthen the voting power of [the district's] Anglo citizens. In other words, they sought to reduce Hispanic voters’ ability to elect” a candidate of their choice.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/29/us/federal-...
Just two hours after the Supreme Court neutered much of the Voting Rights Act, Texas Attorney General Greg Abott (R) announced that the state would implement plans that will suppress minority voters.
Radical Activist Judges? Seems that is all we have. And what about the Housing Fairness Act? Would jump the gerrymandering. And from a gentleman from Texas. That would mess things up for those Activist Judges.

http://beta.congress.gov/congressional-record...

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