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As usual

Santa Fe, NM

#82 May 22, 2013
Willothewisp wrote:
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your posts make no sense at all.
Concha pena

Albuquerque, NM

#83 May 22, 2013
home-schooling? give me a break or better give those kids a break. Students growing up without the input of kids their own age grow without knowing what real life is. Naturally this is what's desired by many groups of parents, kids grow up to be people! Why deny them a privilege that regular families pay for? Foreigners not interested in blending into USA life, so why do they cry for our liberties? The parents seem to e more interested in USA freebie.

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#84 May 22, 2013
Read Lord of the Flies. Children are socialized by adults. Duh. Like letting puppies socialize themselves without the adult dogs. Educate yourself in something other than stereotypes.

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#85 May 22, 2013
As usual wrote:
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your posts make no sense at all.
really? for you? that makes perfect sense.

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#86 May 23, 2013
Willothewisp wrote:
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really? for you? that makes perfect sense.
LOL!

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#87 May 29, 2013
http://www.hslda.org/legal/cases/romeike.asp

Petition for rehearing.....

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#88 Jun 25, 2013
http://www.hslda.org/docs/news/2013/201306181...

The Justice Department has ordered the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals to respond to the request that the Romeike case be reheard by the entire Sixth Circuit, not just the three-judge panel that ruled against them on May 14.

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Vladville

#89 Jun 25, 2013
Willothewisp wrote:
http://www.hslda.org/docs/news /2013/201306181.asp
The Justice Department has ordered the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals to respond to the request that the Romeike case be reheard by the entire Sixth Circuit, not just the three-judge panel that ruled against them on May 14.
Will Justice Department stand for justice?
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#90 Jun 25, 2013
Will Justice Department stand for justice? By Grannies, Huszar, that's a fair and square question, a right good un. I doubt it but it remains to be seen. I suppose it depends on who Obama is trying to please.
Concha pena

Albuquerque, NM

#91 Jun 25, 2013
Mexico will take'em

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#92 Jun 25, 2013
Excellent point. Mexico is more liberal than Germany.

http://www.elhogareducador.org/

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#93 Jul 2, 2013
"Tolerance Trumps Freedom"...sounds familiar.

http://www.hslda.org/docs/media/2013/20130702...

"On June 26, the Department of Justice submitted a brief to the U.S. Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals stating Germany’s laws that suppress religious homeschooling aim at promoting tolerance and are not grounds for claiming persecution. The brief is in response to the Home School Legal Defense Association’s petition for rehearing en banc for the Romeike family."

"The Justice Department further asserted that Germany’s open opposition to the “development of religiously or philosophically motivated ‘parallel societies’” is designed to create an “open, pluralistic society.”

enough said...the link is clean and has more...
In case

Santa Fe, NM

#94 Jul 2, 2013
Willothewisp wrote:
"Tolerance Trumps Freedom"...sounds familiar.
..
you are confused, This is what the court actually said:

"This case does not involve an assessment of the merits of compulsory -school-attendance statutes. It does not involve the propriety of homeschooling versus schooling in a public or private school. Those judgments are properly left to the political branches of government, whether foreign or domestic.

Rather, the issue that a unanimous three-member panel of the Board of Immigration Appeals faced, and correctly resolved, was whether Petitioner Uwe Romeike met his burden of proving he had a well-founded fear of persecution on account of a protected ground under the Immigration and Nationality Act's ("INA") asylum provisions. See 8 U.S.C.§§ 1158, 1101(a)(42)(A). And a unanimous panel of this Court faced the question whether substantial record evidence supported the Board's conclusion that Germany's enforcement of its school-attendance law against Romeike did not constitute persecution.

Despite Romeike's best efforts to take the full Court through another attempt to characterize a German law, of universal application and not selectively or more punitively enforced against anyone, as being applied to persecute him, he has said nothing new. And nothing he does say is worthy of convening the full court.

En banc courts are not venues for dissatisfied litigants to go another round. They are "the exception, not the rule[,]" and are to be convened only when ex-traordinary circumstances exist. United States v. American-Foreign S.S. Corp 363 U.S. 685, 689 (1960). This Court does "not convene en bane [merely] to exercise plenary review over panel decisions." Bell v. Bell, 512 F.3d 223, 251 (6th Cir. 2008)(Moore, J., dissenting).

I.O.P. 35(a) makes plain that the en banc procedure is intended to bring to the full Court's attention a precedent-setting error of exceptional public importance or an opinion that directly conflicts with Supreme Court or Sixth Circuit precedent. The panel's thoroughly reasoned opinion here is correct in all respects. The factual circumstances of the case may be novel for an asylum case, but the panel broke no new ground. The case involves the application of settled principles of basic asylum law under the INA. And contrary to what Romeike claims, the panel's opinion conflicts with neither Supreme Court nor Sixth Circuit precedent."
Correction

Santa Fe, NM

#95 Jul 2, 2013
This is what the DOJ actually said:
Concha pena

Albuquerque, NM

#96 Jul 3, 2013
it was written in German.

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#97 Jul 3, 2013
In case wrote:
<quoted text> you are confused
Talking about two different things. It is the request for the entire circuit to rehear the appeal, not just the 3 judge panel. That is what you quoted. That is old news. This is called an update.

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#98 Jul 3, 2013
From HSLDA and thier lawyers...

Department of Justice’s June 26 Brief to Sixth Circuit Argues against Romeike Rehearing

On June 26, the Department of Justice submitted a brief to the U.S. Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals stating Germany’s laws that suppress religious homeschooling aim at promoting tolerance and are not grounds for claiming persecution. The brief is in response to the Home School Legal Defense Association’s petition for rehearing en banc for the Romeike family.

HSLDA’s request for rehearing, filed on May 28, said that the three-judge panel that originally heard the case in Cincinnati ignored critical evidence and failed to follow the established legal rules for asylum cases.

In its reply, the Justice Department asked the court to deny the petition for rehearing, claiming that the Romeikes were being prosecuted under generally applicable law and that there is no proof that Germany specifically targets religious homeschoolers, despite statements from the German High Court to the contrary.

The Justice Department further asserted that Germany’s open opposition to the “development of religiously or philosophically motivated ‘parallel societies’” is designed to create an “open, pluralistic society.”

“Teaching tolerance to children of all backgrounds helps to develop the ability to interact as a fully functioning citizen in Germany,” the brief states.“It is scarcely feasible, with those stated goals in mind, to tease from the opinion, a persecutory motive on the part of those who enforce the law.”

HSLDA contends that Germany’s actions in this instance do amount to persecution—a platform on which the Romeike family can claim asylum—and filed a reply to the Justice Department brief on June 28.“Silencing the ‘intolerant’ to promote tolerance is not only illogical; it is antithetical to any theory of freedom of conscience,” HSLDA said in the reply.

“Attorney General Holder is trying to seek dismissal of this case because he believes that targeting specific groups in the name of tolerance is within the normal legitimate functions of government,” said Michael Farris, HSLDA founder and chairman.“This cannot be the ultimate position of the United States without denying the essence of our commitment to liberty. We’re trying to provide a home for this family who would otherwise go back to facing fines, jail time, and forcible removal of their children because of their religious convictions about how their children should be educated. Why Attorney General Holder thinks that it is appropriate for any country to do this to a family simply for homeschooling is beyond me.”

HSLDA Senior Counsel Jim Mason, who has worked closely with Farris on the case, said that he is hopeful that the full Sixth Circuit will take the case.“Since the Sixth Circuit asked the Justice Department to respond to our original petition, we know there is at least one judge who is interested in the case,” he said.“Time will tell as to whether enough judges will want to hear it.”

The Sixth Circuit could make a decision at any time to decide if it will hear the case en banc."

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#99 Jul 3, 2013
Correction wrote:
This is what the DOJ actually said:
You were absolutely correct. It was confusing.
Nope

Santa Fe, NM

#100 Jul 3, 2013
Willothewisp wrote:
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Talking about two different things. It is the request for the entire circuit to rehear the appeal, not just the 3 judge panel. That is what you quoted. That is old news. This is called an update.
what you reposted from this homeschooling advocacy group misrepresented what the DOJ said - as does their formal response to the ruling in your recent post.

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#101 Jul 3, 2013
For those who would actually like to read the 12 page DOJ document in its entirety and how they do indeed quote the German Court about how "The general public has a justified interest in counteracting the development of religiously or philosophically motivate "parallel societies" and in integrating minorities in this area. Integration does not only require that the majority of the population does not exclude religious or ideological minorities, but, in fact, that these minorities do not segregate themselves and that they do not close themselves off to a dialogue with dissenters and people of other beliefs. Dialogue with such minorities is an enrichment for an open pluralistic society...."(Page 7) They defend the German court.

So, not to call anyone a LIAR, here is the link to the entire document DOJ submitted:

http://www.hslda.org/docs/media/2013/DOJ_resp...

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