Camp Russell - a dark secret kept hi...

Camp Russell - a dark secret kept hidden?

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Mystic River

Braintree, MA

#1 Mar 25, 2010
We have seen enough bloggers alleging that sexual abuse happened at this camp at the hands of two men who were prominent civic leaders of Pittsfield.
Do we not have a moral obligation to investigate this?- just as there were enough allegations that prompted the investigation of the Catholic priests? Can we not put public pressure on the DA's office???
Worried

Santa Clara, CA

#2 Mar 25, 2010
Good Luck with that. I wish it was that easy
Spider

Bolton Landing, NY

#3 Mar 25, 2010
We shouldn't have to "put public pressure on the DA's office". I also find it interesting that all these allegations have fallen on deaf ears.

But you must remember what county we're dealing with. A county well protected by some very powerful people. So don't expect too much!

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#4 Mar 25, 2010
Spider wrote:
We shouldn't have to "put public pressure on the DA's office". I also find it interesting that all these allegations have fallen on deaf ears.
But you must remember what county we're dealing with. A county well protected by some very powerful people. So don't expect too much!
That is sad but true.
Merlin

AOL

#6 Mar 25, 2010
You've got one very troubled guy making allegations about something that supposedly happened thirty-five years ago, and a bunch of yahoos in here alleging more crap. The next time I see somebody in here, or anywhere else, say they went to the authorities with an allegation and were ignored will be the first.
dirty little secrets

Pittsburgh, PA

#7 Mar 26, 2010
How do we know that others have not made similar allegations in the past only to be pressured or discouraged by officials not to pursue it further? How do we know there isn't a big file on this that will never see the light of day? All over the news right now are questions of what the goddamn pope knew and when he knew it. And you know it really doesn't look good for him. And his statement that mistakes were made just isn't good enough.It seems that even a cover-up involving the pope is possible.
Spider

Bolton Landing, NY

#8 Mar 27, 2010
dirty little secrets wrote:
How do we know that others have not made similar allegations in the past only to be pressured or discouraged by officials not to pursue it further? How do we know there isn't a big file on this that will never see the light of day? All over the news right now are questions of what the goddamn pope knew and when he knew it. And you know it really doesn't look good for him. And his statement that mistakes were made just isn't good enough.It seems that even a cover-up involving the pope is possible.
I agree. I believe there is a lot going on but we will never know. If any of these allegations are true, they will be buried. How sad!
dirty little secrets

Pittsburgh, PA

#9 Mar 28, 2010
that are not so secret. another story of abuse in today's paper. from the New York Times, They were deaf, but they were not silent. Victims reported abuse but it fell on deaf ears. Victims reported abuse to three archbishops, two police departments and the district attorney. So it does appear that it is possible that there are other victims, victims who have reported abuse and no one heard them and victims who will never tell. Because who would you tell?
local man

Clockville, NY

#10 Mar 28, 2010
dirty little secrets wrote:
that are not so secret. another story of abuse in today's paper. from the New York Times, They were deaf, but they were not silent. Victims reported abuse but it fell on deaf ears. Victims reported abuse to three archbishops, two police departments and the district attorney. So it does appear that it is possible that there are other victims, victims who have reported abuse and no one heard them and victims who will never tell. Because who would you tell?
....who s is the second person ?
dirty little secrets

Pittsburgh, PA

#11 Mar 31, 2010
dirty little secrets wrote:
How do we know that others have not made similar allegations in the past only to be pressured or discouraged by officials not to pursue it further? How do we know there isn't a big file on this that will never see the light of day? All over the news right now are questions of what the goddamn pope knew and when he knew it. And you know it really doesn't look good for him. And his statement that mistakes were made just isn't good enough.It seems that even a cover-up involving the pope is possible.
on Larry King live last night two men who had been victimized/sexually abused by a priest told their story of how they told other priests, archbishops, police departments and the district attorney and no one did anything about it. not the church, not the police and not the DA.
dirty little secrets

Pittsburgh, PA

#12 Mar 31, 2010
and not even the goddamn pope, no did anything except hide the truth or ignore it.
dirty little secrets

Pittsburgh, PA

#13 Mar 31, 2010
no one did anything except hide the truth
court

Northville, NY

#14 Mar 31, 2010
dirty little secrets wrote:
no one did anything except hide the truth
Have you ever attended any of our fine sheriff's fun little picnics as a young boy?
dirty little secrets

Pittsburgh, PA

#15 Apr 1, 2010
the truth, indeed, is something that mankind, for some mysterious reason instinctively dislikes. every man who tries to tell it is unpopular, and even when, by the sheer strength of his case, he prevails, he is put down as a scoundrel. H.L.Mencken 1880-1956
dirty little secrets

Pittsburgh, PA

#16 Apr 1, 2010
court wrote:
<quoted text>Have you ever attended any of our fine sheriff's fun little picnics as a young boy?
no, I never have. Were they fun or did they give you nightmares?
the truth

Pittsfield, MA

#17 Apr 1, 2010
pandora box,maybe some old time campers should sit down with JIM MOONEY and have a little talk.
sueg32010

Westfield, MA

#18 Apr 1, 2010
What allegations have fallen on deaf ears? If there are people who were molested they have an obligation to the rest of us to call the police and file and a report, then call the paper and tell the editor.
not so secret

Pittsburgh, PA

#19 Apr 1, 2010
well it would appear that all allegations of sexual abuse by priests or scout leaders and others have fallen on deaf ears. just this morning on the Today show was a story of boys being abused by scout leaders/others. The Perversion Files. It's clear that children were just not safe whether they were boy scouts or alter boys.
dirty little secrets

Pittsburgh, PA

#20 Apr 1, 2010
dirty little secrets wrote:
How do we know that others have not made similar allegations in the past only to be pressured or discouraged by officials not to pursue it further? How do we know there isn't a big file on this that will never see the light of day? All over the news right now are questions of what the goddamn pope knew and when he knew it. And you know it really doesn't look good for him. And his statement that mistakes were made just isn't good enough.It seems that even a cover-up involving the pope is possible.
Berkshire Eagle Commentary today Ross Douthat A time for contrition The lesson of the American experience, exhaustively documented, is that almost everyone was complicit in the scandal.
heaven bound

Pittsburgh, PA

#21 Apr 1, 2010
I'm sure there are still many people who believe god exist, that there is a heaven and they're going there, priests and nuns included, that priests never sexually abused little boys and that churches are closing because of the economy.

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