Bicyclist hit and killed by school bus

Bicyclist hit and killed by school bus

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Booyah

Northville, NY

#2 Oct 3, 2011
I was caught in traffic this morning a little while after this occurred. Sad stuff.
crazy folk

Troy, NY

#3 Oct 3, 2011
I was coming up rte 20 by Merriam street about 3:30 and I see this twenty something guy coming up the road on a bicycle ...in the middle of the road passing cars, about a foot and a half from oncoming traffic. He is actually riding in between two lanes of traffic going in opposite directions...not a lot of room there. He is wearing all the professional bike gear and acting like he owns the road.

Must have been on LSD and thought he was invinceable
Armstrong Wannabes

Ashfield, MA

#4 Oct 3, 2011
That is the way 90-95% of these Lance Armstrong wanna-be bike riders are. They think they are entitled and own the road. They are cocky and arrogant and feel that it is YOU in an automobile who needs to get out of their way. Now I am not saying this about the gentleman who was killed, but I am referencing this person on RTE 20 and so many others like him! These a-holes should be pulled over, ticketed and fined heavily when they display such disregard!
crazy folk wrote:
I was coming up rte 20 by Merriam street about 3:30 and I see this twenty something guy coming up the road on a bicycle ...in the middle of the road passing cars, about a foot and a half from oncoming traffic. He is actually riding in between two lanes of traffic going in opposite directions...not a lot of room there. He is wearing all the professional bike gear and acting like he owns the road.
Must have been on LSD and thought he was invinceable
In the Know

Otis, MA

#5 Oct 3, 2011
The scumbag that got killed has been convicted 3 times of rape of a minor boy. His name is Everett Clark, look him up on the child molester web sites.

He did nothing but live off of your tax dollars (SSI) and laugh at people that had to work.

There is now one less child rapist in the world, now if only Angelo would step in front of a bus.
HellerCarbonCapN TradeLLC

Gaithersburg, MD

#6 Oct 3, 2011
According to The Berkshire Eagle, "Everett and his belongings were found near the rear end of the school bus".
If school bus driver Catherine Collins had just pulled out of a right turn from a standing stop, how given the laws of physics could Collins have bothered to check for anyone approaching on her right flank before pulling out onto East Street?
If she'd really been looking, would she not have already been applying her brakes when she saw Clarke coming her way?
There's no way that bus would have continued traveling far enough for that dead man and his belongings to be found near the rear end of that school bus by the time it came to a halt.
Given though that liability in this case could be squarely on the bus company and maybe even on the city itself (and this being GOB-controlled Pittsfield), does anyone here seriously think there'll be a thorough and honest investigation into what appears to be a sad case of involuntary manslaughter?
Booyah

Northville, NY

#7 Oct 3, 2011
In the Know wrote:
The scumbag that got killed has been convicted 3 times of rape of a minor boy. His name is Everett Clark, look him up on the child molester web sites.
He did nothing but live off of your tax dollars (SSI) and laugh at people that had to work.
There is now one less child rapist in the world, now if only Angelo would step in front of a bus.
Wow, karma maybe?
HellerCarbonCapN TradeLLC

Gaithersburg, MD

#8 Oct 3, 2011
If driver Collins had been cognizant of what was going on around her, there's no way that bus would have continued traveling far enough for that dead man and his belongings to end up near the rear end of that school bus by the time it finally came to a halt.
Sounds like a distracted driver who simply was not paying attention.
Note though how even this early in the investigation The Eagle slants the story to make it appear as though it was the bicyclist's fault.
Another Berkshire Eagle/City of Pittsfield cover-up to mask incompetence, to taint any possible jury pool, with the ultimate goal to protect the city or GOB-controlled bus company from liability.
Do you doubt me?
HellerCarbonCapN TradeLLC

Gaithersburg, MD

#9 Oct 3, 2011
According to The Berkshire Eagle, "Everett and his belongings were found near the rear end of the school bus".
If school bus driver Catherine Collins had just pulled out of a right turn from a standing stop, how given the laws of physics could Collins have possibly bothered to check for anyone approaching on her right flank before pulling out onto East Street?
For if she'd really been looking, would she not have already been applying her brakes when she saw Clarke coming her way?
Further, there's no way that bus would have continued traveling far enough for that dead man and his belongings to be found near the rear end of that school bus by the time it came to a halt.
Not if the driver had been looking and had already started applying her brakes.
Given though that liability in this case could be squarely on the bus company and maybe even on the city itself (and this being GOB-controlled Pittsfield), does anyone here seriously think there'll be a thorough and honest investigation into what appears to be a sad case of involuntary manslaughter?
If driver Collins had been cognizant of what was going on around her, there's no way that bus would have continued traveling far enough for that dead man and his belongings to end-up near the rear end of that school bus by the time it finally came to a halt.
Sounds like a distracted driver who simply was not paying attention.
Note though how even this early in 'the investigation', The Eagle is slanting the story to make it appear as though there is no doubt it was the bicyclist's fault.
Another Berkshire Eagle/City of Pittsfield cover-up to mask incompetence, to taint any possible jury pool, and with the ultimate goal to protect the city (or GOB-controlled bus company) from liability.
Call me suspicious.
No Charges

Ardsley, NY

#10 Oct 3, 2011
She did the world a favor and took out a known Child Molester. Don't even think about charging her. Who cares where the body was found and the physics of the Bus.

Its all meaningless.
doyourresearch

Hudson Falls, NY

#11 Oct 3, 2011
HellerCarbonCapNTradeLLC wrote:
According to The Berkshire Eagle, "Everett and his belongings were found near the rear end of the school bus".
If school bus driver Catherine Collins had just pulled out of a right turn from a standing stop, how given the laws of physics could Collins have bothered to check for anyone approaching on her right flank before pulling out onto East Street?
If she'd really been looking, would she not have already been applying her brakes when she saw Clarke coming her way?
There's no way that bus would have continued traveling far enough for that dead man and his belongings to be found near the rear end of that school bus by the time it came to a halt.
Given though that liability in this case could be squarely on the bus company and maybe even on the city itself (and this being GOB-controlled Pittsfield), does anyone here seriously think there'll be a thorough and honest investigation into what appears to be a sad case of involuntary manslaughter?
Heller, you are such a JACKOFF!!! You talk shit about stuff you don't know about just to make waves. I suggest, before you accuse the bus driver, the bus company or the city of being responsible for this accident, do your research. Get your lazy ass out from behind your computer and go to the scene of this accident. If you had seen it, you would realize that this bicyclist was at fault. Yes I was there! I saw the scene! I've done accident reconstruction before! No I'm not a current Policeman neither. I was an accident specialist in the military. It is tragic that someone lost their life today but it WAS HIS FAULT!!!! Now this hard working bus driver is traumatized and will probably never want to drive again. Basically I'm saying to you, shut the fuck up unless you can prove your accusations.
HellerCarbonCapN TradeLLC

Gaithersburg, MD

#12 Oct 3, 2011
No Charges wrote:
She did the world a favor and took out a known Child Molester. Don't even think about charging her. Who cares where the body was found and the physics of the Bus.
Its all meaningless.
So you're saying that the bicyclist deserved to be mowed down by a school bus driver?
You really want a bus driver prone to distracted driving to be responsible for carting young kids to and from school?
Is this how Berkshire Liberals view the world?
No Charges

Ardsley, NY

#13 Oct 3, 2011
I agree 100%. A huge Yellow school bus coming out of a dead stop and turning. He couldn't see that? He was definitely at fault. He was probably high on Drugs. Heller is a loser.
doyourresearch wrote:
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Heller, you are such a JACKOFF!!! You talk shit about stuff you don't know about just to make waves. I suggest, before you accuse the bus driver, the bus company or the city of being responsible for this accident, do your research. Get your lazy ass out from behind your computer and go to the scene of this accident. If you had seen it, you would realize that this bicyclist was at fault. Yes I was there! I saw the scene! I've done accident reconstruction before! No I'm not a current Policeman neither. I was an accident specialist in the military. It is tragic that someone lost their life today but it WAS HIS FAULT!!!! Now this hard working bus driver is traumatized and will probably never want to drive again. Basically I'm saying to you, shut the fuck up unless you can prove your accusations.
HellerCarbonCapN TradeLLC

Gaithersburg, MD

#14 Oct 3, 2011
doyourresearch wrote:
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Heller, you are such a JACKOFF!!! You talk shit about stuff you don't know about just to make waves. I suggest, before you accuse the bus driver, the bus company or the city of being responsible for this accident, do your research. Get your lazy ass out from behind your computer and go to the scene of this accident. If you had seen it, you would realize that this bicyclist was at fault. Yes I was there! I saw the scene! I've done accident reconstruction before! No I'm not a current Policeman neither. I was an accident specialist in the military. It is tragic that someone lost their life today but it WAS HIS FAULT!!!! Now this hard working bus driver is traumatized and will probably never want to drive again. Basically I'm saying to you, shut the fuck up unless you can prove your accusations.
Then explain why it took so long for the bus driver to stop such that the bicycle rider and his stuff ended up at the rear of where the bus finally stopped?
Sounds to me as though the bus driver wasn't looking and after making her turn swerved into the path of the oncoming bicyclist.
HellerCarbonCapN TradeLLC

Gaithersburg, MD

#15 Oct 3, 2011
No Charges wrote:
I agree 100%. A huge Yellow school bus coming out of a dead stop and turning. He couldn't see that? He was definitely at fault. He was probably high on Drugs. Heller is a loser.
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It appears more likely that the bus driver was not even aware she'd hit someone.
This would explain her failing to stop immediately.
Had the driver stopped immediately, the accident victim would not have landed to the bus's rear.
Did PPD give the driver a drug and alcohol test immediately after the accident?
Was the driver texting or talking on a cell phone at the time of the accident?
Who owns the bus company in the event the driver was at fault?
Or aren't we supposed to ask such questions in GOB-controlled Pittsfield?
HellerCarbonCapN TradeLLC

Gaithersburg, MD

#16 Oct 3, 2011
No Charges wrote:
I agree 100%. A huge Yellow school bus coming out of a dead stop and turning. He couldn't see that? He was definitely at fault. He was probably high on Drugs. Heller is a loser.
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Maybe, just maybe, the bicyclist clearly saw the bus and moved over closer to the curb, and maybe the driver failed to see him and after her turn just swerved into the bicylist's path.
Given years of bicycling, my experience has been that a bicyclist is far more aware of oncoming traffic than that traffic's awareness of him.
care

Queensbury, NY

#17 Oct 3, 2011
Karma Bit Him In The Butt !!!!
aaron

Troy, NY

#18 Oct 3, 2011
good one less skinner today is a good day see ya in Hell f'r! I bet he's zens 1 we can only hope.
Dalton

Ardsley, NY

#19 Oct 3, 2011
He hits a big yellow school bus. How stupid was he.

Reminds me of the guy who got hit by a train. Like he couldn't see that coming. too funny.
Justice

Ardsley, NY

#20 Oct 3, 2011
He was probably looking in the bus for some young boy to molest. The Chester that he was. Justice took hold.
Nut Saxxxxxxxxxxxxx OOPS

Northville, NY

#21 Oct 3, 2011
Heller who is we, do you pay taxes in Pittsfield? If you are so smart and can run the city better why dont you move back run for office and make everything perfect.... Otherwise, stay out of our cities problems,

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